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jwkniska 07-05-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 665394)
Too bad I can't still get paid on my Cool Clue win wager from that day.

that makes two of us.

Scav 07-05-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 665394)
Too bad I can't still get paid on my Cool Clue win wager from that day.

Dont get me started, another DTer said the same thing, bettor not protected at all, absolute bs and nothing we can do about it, i want to get a Barry Bonds cardboard lifesize and put it next to his comedy chair in paddock

Scav 07-06-2010 12:27 PM

And its the horseman's fault?
 
This is from a locally based owner on Arlington's facebook page.

I don't know who this specific trainer is, but I know of two trainers, that are good guys that have stalled here in the past, that got denied.

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Why has AP refused to grant stall space to trainers and owners who have been racing at CD. I own two filles, raced then at CD, and had planned to come to AP. My trainer was told there is not sufficient space to stable his string of 12/13 head. I live here in Elk Grove, have raced at AP for three years, and am very upset with the way we are being trated. The lack of barn space is not true. The races being run so far at AP for the most part have short fields, which are dominated by even odds horses either owned or trained by two people. No wonder intertrack betting at AP is down.

satan's twin 07-06-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 665401)
Dont get me started, another DTer said the same thing, bettor not protected at all, absolute bs and nothing we can do about it, i want to get a Barry Bonds cardboard lifesize and put it next to his comedy chair in paddock

It was a delight indeed watching Queen Frank growling at all his minions and munchkins yesterday afternoon after being served up the chin music from the racing board earlier in the day. If only his director's chair would have shown some termite damage, as well, after he dropped his fat ass into it.

That Human Liver Spot was certainly sitting in the catbird's seat the previous two days with three out of four winners on Saturday and Boy Scout Day on Sunday. The rush he got from seeing 500 cub scouts prancing through the paddock on Sunday was probably enough to keep him off Viagra for a week.

Cannon Shell 07-06-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 665648)
It was a delight indeed watching Queen Frank growling at all his minions and munchkins yesterday afternoon after being served up the chin music from the racing board earlier in the day. If only his director's chair would have shown some termite damage, as well, after he dropped his fat ass into it.

That Human Liver Spot was certainly sitting in the catbird's seat the previous two days with three out of four winners on Saturday and Boy Scout Day on Sunday. The rush he got from seeing 500 cub scouts prancing through the paddock on Sunday was probably enough to keep him off Viagra for a week.

:tro:

MISTERGEE 07-06-2010 05:46 PM

Frank C claimed a horse on Sat with a trainer I never heard of named. I think it was Faucheux? He will probably only be a 50% winner

GBBob 07-07-2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 665677)
Frank C claimed a horse on Sat with a trainer I never heard of named. I think it was Faucheux? He will probably only be a 50% winner

He's 23 years old, whatever that means

CSC 07-07-2010 11:20 AM

Does anyone remember Frank Passero Jr. at Gulfstream Park, used to use the horrendous J Bracho as his jock, made huge drops to win claiming races, totally disrupted betting unless you wanted to be a bridgejumper and was accused of using Vicks vapor rub on a horse's genitalia. You wouldn't call him a good trainer by any means despite a great winning %.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 665885)
He's 23 years old, whatever that means

Think he was a cub scout?

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 665978)
Does anyone remember Frank Passero Jr. at Gulfstream Park, used to use the horrendous J Bracho as his jock, made huge drops to win claiming races, totally disrupted betting unless you wanted to be a bridgejumper and was accused of using Vicks vapor rub on a horse's genitalia. You wouldn't call him a good trainer by any means despite a great winning %.

Uh that wasnt Vicks they were rubbing down there...

CSC 07-07-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666001)
Uh that wasnt Vicks they were rubbing down there...

I don't think they had HGH back then...and having bigger balls I don't think would make a horse run faster. ;)

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 666005)
I don't think they had HGH back then...and having bigger balls I don't think would make a horse run faster. ;)

Hot sauce

satan's twin 07-07-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666000)
Think he was a cub scout?


Obviously. He's got Frank pitching a tent every time he saunters past him.

Sightseek 07-07-2010 09:14 PM

It's never boring in Chicago.

Catalano is going to be using less of Baze (to shake things up?) and Canani filed an appeal resulting in a 30 day stay of suspension.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114562.html

DaTruth 07-08-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 665885)
He's 23 years old, whatever that means

He used to work for Pletcher. His dad is known in political circles; the father was an elected official in the NOLA area and is now a political analyst in D.C. He also has connections to Louie Roussel.

CSC 07-08-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666031)
Hot sauce


golfer 07-08-2010 08:18 AM

Passero's streak a little too hot (1996)
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...reak_too_.html

Scav 07-08-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 666338)
He used to work for Pletcher. His dad is known in political circles; the father was an elected official in the NOLA area and is now a political analyst in D.C. He also has connections to Louie Roussel.

Some kind of 'in-law' I heard.

Danzig 08-21-2010 09:52 AM

http://www.drf.com/news/five-positives-nick-canani-barn


five positives for nick....

Scav 08-21-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685717)

LOL.....

Duvalier 08-21-2010 09:56 AM

Must not be too serious of positives. He only gets 30 days for 5 of them.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685719)
Must not be too serious of positives. He only gets 30 days for 5 of them.

well, i know they have classes of drugs, so this one must be a three. but it's not just 30 days and the fine, but the purses go away as well. i guess his trainer stats change as well? besides, 30 days is not a slap on the wrist.

Duvalier 08-21-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685723)
besides, 30 days is not a slap on the wrist.

I'm sure the horses will continue to run and train the same way as usual...the only difference being a little less etodolac in their system and a change in the name of the trainer which appears in the official track program.

dagolfer33 08-21-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685717)

I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

Duvalier 08-21-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 685728)
I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

Keep giving penalties like 30 days for 5 positives and allow the horses to run under a different trainers name during the suspension and things like this will never go away. There really is no strong deterrent to not try to take an edge and maybe push the envelope.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685725)
I'm sure the horses will continue to run and train the same way as usual...the only difference being a little less etodolac in their system and a change in the name of the trainer which appears in the official track program.

supposedly (:rolleyes:) they can't, but we have all seen trainers say they are taking a vacation. it's supposed to be punishment, but we all saw how the six month suspension hurt asmussen. he got more business as a result, it's bizarre.
but i do know, if i missed 30 days of work, it would hurt my budget. but i guess it won't hurt his.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 685728)
I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

it would be nice if they could find a way to do that. but those who won on the canani horses might not agree, as they wouldn't want to give their winnings back.

DaTruth 08-21-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685730)
Keep giving penalties like 30 days for 5 positives and allow the horses to run under a different trainers name during the suspension and things like this will never go away. There really is no strong deterrent to not try to take an edge and maybe push the envelope.

I know it involves different jurisdictions, but something isn't right when you compare some of the punishments meted out to trainers with the one-year suspension that Donnie Meche received for not giving his best effort aboard a Steve Asmussen trained 3-5 favorite in a futurity trial at Delta Downs.

dellinger63 08-21-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 662580)
I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

as it turns out there isn't much differece now is there? When it smells like a rat it usually is.

dellinger63 08-21-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685732)
it would be nice if they could find a way to do that. but those who won on the canani horses might not agree, as they wouldn't want to give their winnings back.

It's a sickening situation. If they keep samples I'd love to see and independent lab come in and do tests.

Scav 09-02-2010 11:31 PM

Heard Canani talking in the paddock today in his Cuban shirt that he stole from his dad that 'my lawyers can't get in contact with you until next week' and he stormed away.

This was after he just put in a 50 cent P4 at Del Mar that cost $250, LOL.

Keep an eye for the horses that got positives, some have been dropped from the clouds even more so then normal and ran horrible. What is hilarious is that people still claim off the guy.

Most importantly, my girl Ingrid Mason can sure wear an Ed Hardy shirt, Drugs would have a field day with her.


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