I think he would have had his best chance to win, if he layed closer to the pace, rather than sitting just in front of Zen....how in the world was he going to out close her from back there.....She had shown some sort of pace in the past, and i think could have shown more than that early....
I take nothing away from the BIG Horse, she is pretty nice....winning all those races coming from behind, is certainly no easy thing.....

But game as hell

The haters just cant love a deep closer that doesn't lose. 17 and 0

I think Zenyatta would have won by 5 if Mike"God I gotta tour the grandstand before I cross the finish line" Smith had not gone so wide.Best race of the year so far!

Garcia purposely went wide to push Zenyatta even wider. St Trinians ran a monster race but unfortunately Zenyatta was an even bigger monster. If only the Lakers could have watched her race for inspiration.

Hear, hear.....

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0 :tro: :cool:

but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.

Who cares about win streaks against lesser competition. I don't understand everyone's fascination with win streaks. They are stupid. Great horses lose races and its not a big deal. Beating NM breds and Grade 3 competition on synthetic doesn't do anything for me, whether they win 2 in a row or 50.

apparently the mosses do.

And a lot of the idiots on this board. It's dumb.

I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

Smooth Operatard

or

Prostate Operator

:rolleyes:

This post must be like in elementary school where they wanted you to write a little story not so much for content but so they could get you to practice things like spelling and penmanship. This one really could've been improved by "drawerings."

In other words, z will not leave SoCal and her soft spots until the BC.

I do have to give z credit for breaking Hallowed Dreams' mark of 16 wins in a row.

rachel won her race faster than blame.
zenyatta on the other hand ran slower than rail trip.

now, props to her consistency for going 17-0. but consistency and greatness aren't interchangeable words. one of congaree's best races, the one in which everyone's respect for him grew, was his nose loss to milwaukee brew in the big 'cap.

I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?

If you watched the Californian and thought afterwards that Zenyatta is ready to take on Rail Trip in the HOL Gold Cup then you need to get a prescription for new goggles. Hell, her own trainer isn't even willing to take him on and I don't blame them, he's back in form and loves that track.

NT

Well, in all fairness, the trainer of Rail Trip didn't exactly sound jazzed up to take on Zenyatta post-race yesterday either.

:tro::tro::tro:

As opposed to "she's never lost so that totally means she's the bestest!!!!"?

I've seen your comments about St. Trinians and they are no surprise, funny that only works one way when your horse is discussed. When it comes to anything to do with Zenyatta barring her beating Quality Road while carrying 129 and running a 115-ish beyer, you guys just may concede she is not just the luckiest horse on earth.

BTW How much weight did the Rail Trip carry in the Californian..let me help you 118, how much weight did Zenyatta carry in the Vanity 129, I'll do the math for you guys also, that is 11lbs + more, do you want to add on a sex for age allowance also? I think she did just fine.

He was probably trying to avoid an argument with the gleeful Zenyatta backers.

I don't want to rain on the Zenyatta fan parade because I know she's a terrific horse who has done some very nice things. But, the hyperbole going around about yesterday's win is just idiotic. It was not a particularly strong race and ultimately presented one of the best setups she's ever had (with the BC Classic right up there as well). It should make anyone who thinks she is a legitimate contender to beat males in a race like the BC Classic understand that she's not there yet. At all.

NT

I dare you to say that on Steve's show, I wonder how your credibilty will hold up after that?

There's no point in me discussing anything about this with you. You'll grasp at straws, like weight, when all else fails. However, don't insult other people's handicapping methods, especially when they're dealing with fundamentals of handicapping like final times. Unless you feel obligated to thump your chest some more about the 2 winners you posted last year.

NT

Don't dare me to do anything. I have no reputation and a fan base that consists of RockHardTen1985 and sometimes GBBob if I'm nice to him.

NT

Ditto Nick. When it comes to Zenyatta your bias really shows. That's fine, I as a fan of racing enjoyed yesterday's race immensely, it's too bad others can't.

AS LONG AS YOU KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE..***************** NEXT TO IT.....

I really enjoyed yesterdays race. It was exciting for sure. I think everyone probably thought it was a good one. I haven't seen a remark by anyone that suggested it wasn't a good one. Just because one doesn't think zenyatta is man o war citation and secretariat rolled into one doesn't mean they dislike the horse or think she's no good.

A $50,000 claimer that was the post-time favorite in the Big 'Cap last out...

If I gave you 20-1 odds the last half furlong on that goat would you take it? If not, shut the f.uck up.

Grade inflation at its worst.



--Dunbar

Do you sign your name in case you forget it?

P.S. You're a dullard, not a teacher.

You can add me to the list.....unless that further sullies your rep.

Don't have to give that much thought to your new username …


LOSER1

Danzig was probably all over Bernardini in that '06 Classic, CSC.


Way too fast for that slow pig, Invasor, dontcha know..............

Well, now that RA FINALLY has her G2 … time to move on up those ranks


Although somehow I don't think we'll see her in that G1 Whitney :D

Oh No! Gotta fly over 'Dem ROCKIES to get there!:eek:

Fine work.


:tro:OOOOOOOOOO:tro:

I once had an as rabid Zenyatta fan as Smoothie Poo here tell me that Zen "loves to fly, absolutly, loves it!"

I wonder if the connections scheduled her a nice airplane ride as a prize for the win yesterday.

Have to love these crazy Zen fans. If anything, they sure do provide some laughs. :o