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This article is amazing. The Moss' wanted "to have fun with her" and so they're looking for a 3rd straight Hirsch? What?!? Wouldn't "fun" constitute a challenge, or broadened horizons? I guess not. NT |
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hardly think Zenyatta will enjoy favorable circumstances in her race. She's giving 9 lbs to a pretty nice horse and I'll be surprised if the pace is to her liking. And while it's debateable, there's reason to believe she hasn't been training as sharply as she was earlier in the year. I expect Zenyatta to lose this weekend. |
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Listening on my way home tonight, they were talking about how great she looked in her last workout, dappled and happy and healthy. She IS giving up a fair amount of weight in this race, so it may be interesting. The great news (for me, without TVG) is that it can be seen live in the interwebs!
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/ntra-...on-sunday.aspx |
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It's sort of obvious at this point that her connections have no real faith in her.
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It appear that the Moss's are going to try to keep her winning steak alive and beat the boys in the Classic. I am amazed at how well she runs without a warm up before the race. Still this campain doesn't make any sense.:zz::zz::zz: |
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They lost focus when RA faltered and had no back up plan to get to the Breeders Cup. |
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I hope RA, Zenyatta, and Blame win this weekend and continue winning (include Quality Road) up to the BC. I want to see the 4 of them face off in the BCC.:)
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Wow...just when you thought The Moss's/Sherifffs couldn't embarass themselves anymore with this same old weak schedule as the last 2 yrs, they enter Zardana in The Vanity as well as a rabbit, then announce they are running against the same field 2 months later at Del Mar. What happened to "This year we are going to ship her all over"? It's obvious they have lost confidence in her.
They should have retired her after The BC last year. What they are doing with her in 2010 is a joke and diminishing her reputation. |
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I hope she loses and gets a bone chip and they retire her. I'm sick of reading about these spineless douchenozzles with too much money and not enough pride.
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That's why the b.ullshit last year about how "Zenyatta was ready to run in the Beldame before Jackson declared Rachel" was ludicrous then and is now. If you are a fan of this game you can't possibly be happy about Zenyatta's planned campaign at this point in time. Even the biggest California homer has to want her to go around the country and strut her stuff, and I mean at racetracks beyond Arkansas. NT |
The wind was emenating from Southern California.
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Ah, the armchair trainers are out in force … again
Pay no attention to their idle chatter, John … do whatever it takes to get your champion SIX-YEAR-OLD mare back to the CUP fresh, fit, and ready to fire her best shot at the 10f pretenders Meanwhile, in other news, the reigning 'horse-of-the-year' goes for that elusive first W in some G2 at CD… lol |
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Personally, I can care less what races she runs in, I'm just glad she is running. Sure I would like to see her against better competition but it is what it is. I wasn't around for Personal Ensign or Ruffian or any of the other greats that all the old timers talk about. In my lifetime, Zenyatta is a 'great' and I enjoy seeing her run. I'll never forget the energy inside of Santa Anita when she popped her head out down the lane in the BC, it was like people were only watching her the whole time and saw she had a chance and went apeshit. |
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Again, they want best in show, not HOY. |
no, they want hoy. they just don't want to run an hoy campaign to earn it. they're supposed to get the votes just based on her 'talent', not on her actual on the track accomplishments. kills me the bitter zenyatta fans who think she should have won over a 3 yo who went out and EARNED it throughout an entire, perfect season.
at the very least, zenyatta should be in the californian. and giving nine pounds-big deal. like that's something to brag about. am i glad she's running, sure. is the campaign one for the ages? hell no. |
Honestly there is less interest in general in Zenyatta's CA AAA events than any other supposedly great horse in history. I doubt that I will go out of my way to watch her race.
The best thing would have been her losing that race at Del mar last year so they wouldn't be so obsessed with the stupid winning streak. Winning streaks are only in vogue now because owners want to be part of the story and the college football mentality rules. Perhaps if they didn't have the undefeated deal they would have tested her in traditional proving grounds. Now if she doesn't win out and win the BC i just dont think she will be remembered as anything more than a really good horse who spent much of her career ducking competition, and mostly historically weak competition at that. |
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SOLID. |
I want to see how she runs Sunday, if she runs off and wins for fun than yea this sounds really stupid.
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A win for the Rockies
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Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. But these comments about Zenyatta are so weird to me. I am looking very forward to seeing Zenyatta run. She is attempting to make racing history sunday. Only one other horse in america will ever have won more races than Zenyatta while undefeated. That's Huge.
Zenyatta is not responsible for what races she runs in. She's a horse. On Sunday she will attempt to make history and there are people here saying they're not going to watch it. They're entitled to do what they want. But in my opinion it's really dumb to miss out on a historic race because you dislike her campaign. History is history - and one way or another Sunday's race will be a race people will talk about for years to come. Don't miss history because you hate a horse's campaign. |
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Firstly, that 2yo campaign Zenyatta had, I assure you, took nothing out of her. She ran a whole whopping ZERO times at 2. She did, however, have a far more taxing race schedule as a 3yo. After spending nearly the first eleven months of her 3yo season not racing, she finally makes her debut on Nov. 22 of her 3yo season, then actually made a second start to close out a truly grueling 3yo campaign. So, in effect, this is really only her third season of racing. Same as RA. In case the obvious has eluded you, that means that by the time in RA's career that she had locked up the HOY trophy, Zenyatta, was still an unraced prospect, in her own respective career. |
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Good way to avoid the point that this is going to be a race worth watching:) |
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I didn't avoid any point....I just don't buy the manufactured hype. Good horses deserved to be campaigned as such. If connections don't believe in their horse why should I? |
Something must be up. Either they're not pleased with how she's trained, or the ship to Oaklawn knocked her out more than they expected. Throat said it best, this is not the campaign I was expecting.
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Zenyatta ran in the breeders cup classic when she could easily have ran in the ladies classic last year. That's believing in your horse blackthroated. Her connections don't believe in her. Give me a break. And saying I like Peppers pride when I post a statement about how the Vanity will be a historic race is completely avoiding anything that I have to say IMO. I get it though if I say the vanity's going to be a historic race it means peppers pride was awesome to me. Well Blackthroated... if I thought peppers pride was amazing I wouldn't think that Sunday was something special would I? I would think Zenyatta had no record to break wouldn't I. You don't have to like Zenyatta though and I get it you don't:) To each his own I guess. My opinion is different though and I guess you want to belittle me for it. My point was think about the history this horse is making and stop hating on her while there is still time to enjoy her. She's making history and if you don't want to admit it than go ahead and say I like peppers pride. |
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And after the reaction when they lost the award, it was pretty clear that they had a big sense of entitlement to that award. The way they're campaigning her this year just confirms that they didn't run her in the Classic to prove her greatness, it was to try to win an award they thought they would waltz into. She's a special and very good animal for sure, but we're never going to know where she stands among the greats, because her connections are not willing to show us. She's a horse, that's not her fault, but in the end she also gets her legacy as nothing more than what she does as a horse, and her connections don't seem too eager to build that up. Good for them for doing what they want, but I don't want to see any more sour grapes and classless reactions like earlier this year when she loses another HOY vote after another campaign like this. |
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I don't see how that's possible. Why would they change their actions after all this time? Because they said they would? |
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