She has to listen to the Spin Doctors Greatest Hits and get back to us on that.

Just remember that the KKK is an equal threat to radical Islam in this day and age. No I'm not being sarcastic! There are 6000 KKK members in the world! And they've gone global.

Yeah...I'm being sarcastic. Maybe those of you who believed the comparison was warranted should do the rest of us a favor and kill yourself.

You go ahead and stick with classifying millions of people in multiple countries as "terrorists" based upon a generalized religious affiliation. I won't.

What did you think of the guy in that video link I posted?

Let us know how all Muslims are terrorists in your world. A place many of us are happy not to be a part of.

are you this fucl<ing ridiculous. please read my prior post again so you can stop fucl<ing talking for me.



I've never said all muslims are terrorists, so dont put words in my mouth bitc.h.

No I dont believe all muslims are radical. You seem to feel like there are only a "few". If "few" means millions, than I may agree. The estimates are that there are approx 1 billion Muslims in the world. The VAST majority are good Muslims (eventhough they still treat women like dog crap).

" Gallup conducted tens of thousands of hour-long, face-to-face interviews with residents of more than thirty-five predominantly Muslim countries between 2001 and 2007. It found that – contrary to the prevailing perception in the west that the actions of al-Qaida enjoy wide support in the Muslim world – more than 90% of respondents condemned the killing of non-combatants on religious and humanitarian grounds [156] "


Looking at these generalized numbers, it would be safe to say that 10% of the Muslim population is radical. Thats 100,000 million people, or 1/3 of the population of the United States, that think terrorists attacks are good things.

Thats a scary high amount of people. So yes, the majority of Muslims are not like that. But a ton of people are.

I have absolutely no respect for that religion, even if they had 0% terrorists, because women are treated with less respect than dogs. This world would be a much better place if mythical Muhommed had never been written about.


Does 10% equal ALL to you? can you read?

I do believe its a good comparison. Not at all on the same scale of course, and willingness to kill yourself is not seen in KKK members.. but the hate that both groups have is a good comparison. I just wish there were only 6,000 radical Muslims instead of 100 million.

and you still didnt answer my question about why you feel Radicals are not terrorists.

About your video, I didnt watch it. Cant watch video's on the computer I am using.

That would be an excellent point if anyone had actually tried to make that claim. "Over the years," does not equal "in this day and age."

"Safe to say" ?? Yeah, sure. One good broad generalization begets another, especially when it concerns a religion one has "absolutely no respect for."

" are you this fucl<ing ridiculous." ??

I'm not drinking the anti-Muslim hate kool-aid. But you guys keep pouring for each other.

You would have to go back to the 1920's to compare and even then you would look like an imbecile. There is no comparison to radical Islam and the KKK.

The KKK was national with a dash of Canadia. Radical Islam is worldwide and killing far more people than the KKK ever did.

It's like comparing the Chicago Bulls during Jordan's era to the Washington Generals.

Radicals can beget terrorists, but simply being radical doesn't make one a terrorist. That's apparent from our own home-grown radicals. The hate talk and inciting rhetoric calling for action might even include death threats, but it doesn't force one to take the final step of becoming a terrorist.

I'm sure that video has made it into the news today, with descriptions.

" Gallup conducted tens of thousands of hour-long, face-to-face interviews with residents of more than thirty-five predominantly Muslim countries between 2001 and 2007. It found that – contrary to the prevailing perception in the west that the actions of al-Qaida enjoy wide support in the Muslim world – more than 90% of respondents condemned the killing of non-combatants on religious and humanitarian grounds [156] "


No I have no respect for anyone who treats women like ****.. you apparantly think its all good. I have no respect for the Old Testiment that allows you to have slaves and treat women like property. I have absolutely no respect for the Qu'ran whose profit was a PEDOPHILE.

Even then, you're still arguing against a straw man that you've created to argue against, not a point that anyone actually made as far as I can tell.

Riot or Antitrust never said anything about the scope being the same. Killing because someone believes that a deity or holy book implores them to is the point, which is a perfectly valid point. If someone starts claiming that the scope is the same, then you're all set and should be able to just copy/paste the things you're posting right now, as they'll come in handy when someone actually starts having that discussion.

to me that is the same as being a terrorist. to each his/her own.

and I have the same respect for the person in this video as I do for a Muslim radical. Just because I feel one way about a certain group doesnt mean I dont feel the same way about ALL people who are all about destruction.

Radical Muslims = KKK = Crusades = Nazi's = Stalin = Catholic Priests who molest kids = all shi.tbags.

different scales, same hate.

It was a comparison of a mostly regional hate group to a worldwide movement of radical Islam.

It was a blatant attempt at downplaying what's going on RIGHT NOW in the world we live in.

When the KKK gets influence and in some aspects complete control of governments like radical Islam has then get back to me with the B.S. comparison/downplay.

I'm not sure everyone is reading it that way, since it was a comparison of people who kill because they claim that their religion tells them to...the scope is irrelevant to such a comparison -- in fact, of the four people talking about this right now, you're the only one who read it that way. I know it's Riot, so a question of giving her the benefit of the doubt is entirely out of the question by default, but it seems like a bit of a stretch to take the words she wrote and extend them into the argument you claim those words were making.

No Im not wrong , you dont see boycotts or protesting happening , you see words on a page nothing more. If the governments that harbor terrorists and the civilians who are against terrorism were to be louder and prouder maybe just maybe then I would accept that the opposition that some proclaim was real . A Pakastani military officer knew of the plan to set of a bomb in Time's square did he say anything ???? No he just let it roll off his back and the Pakastani military is supposed to be on our side when it comes to terrorism. Dont you remember when 9/11 happened they showed footage from Middle Eastern countries of people rejoicing in the streets that a whole bunch of Americans just died? I dont hate anyone but I hate the things people do and as for the our homegrown terrorists I think we have done a pretty good job of quelling that situation . As for anyone who kills in the name of Christ or any diety they believe in are just really sh.itty people who are so weak minded that they cant recognize right and wrong.

It was downplaying of what's going on in today's world, Brian. The KKK is practically disbanded now.

The law of averages are going to show that most, if not all, religions have hate groups. That's not the issue.

The issue in this thread is Muslim hate groups. There are far more dangerous hate groups on that side of the fence than Christians.

When you compare the two present day...which one is making waves globally? Which one has tech savvy people at their disposal? Which one has a higher number of lost souls willing to die for the cause?

The fact that the first Christian hate group mentioned is the KKK should put some perspective into the dire situation we're facing today. Muslim extremists make the KKK look like slapdicks.

Well then you and I, and others, certainly read the original post differently, because I still think you're making a big leap to connect the original post to the mostly salient points you're making now.

Nothing about that leap makes the points you're making incorrect, or the type that I even necessarily disagree with when we're talking about scope -- but as far as I can tell, it's a conversation that you introduced to this thread, not Riot, because you two are not talking about the same thing at all. The fact that the scope is greater now doesn't invalidate her original post in any way about people of all religions using their religion to justify that. These two conversations are not mutually exclusive.

From this post...

How can I not jump to a conclusion that is more than likely right after that last paragraph?

So Muslims can't practice their religion in America freely? There are worship centers all over KENTUCKY FOR ****S SAKE!!

Still not seeing it.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Just watch out for those KKK suicide bombers.

to be honest I dont care if people use religion or not as their excuse. Stalin as far as I know wasnt using religion as his excuse, Hitler either, eventhough he used that as propaganda. All the same to me. People get all fanatical about their books and what people in robes tell them.. so it makes sense that a lot of violence is centered around these religions.

Of course the KKK example a down play. Right now the biggest threat on this earth to our well being is Radical Muslims. They are a larger and scarier brand of terrorists than KKK members of 50 years ago, but I think the mind set is all similar.

That's a winner..:tro::tro:

I know Bin Laden was very popular in the Muslim world. I had seen polls. Just because I didn't know the exact numbers, it didn't mean that I was totally guessing. You obviously didn't do your homework on the subject.

Here are the numbers: In 2003, Bin Laden's approval rating was 59% in Indonesia. In Pakistan his approval rating was 46% in 2003. His approval rating was 56% in Jordan. This was 2 years after 9/11. His numbers have come way down since then, which is good news. But I think the main reason his numbers have come way down is because they don't like the fact that he kills so many Muslims. When he was only killing Americans, he was very popular.

You can't try to act like it's only some tiny portion of the Muslim population that support Bin Laden when his approval rating was 59% in Indonesia.

http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/nationa...eclining-.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23094334/

Yeah, sometimes people who give orders that directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians somehow manage to retain high approval ratings in their home areas. It is really unfortunate that it happens, but it continues to happen all over the world. The numbers Rupert cites indicating that millions of people supported a truly despicable and murderous thug like Bin Laden earlier this decade are certainly evidence of that....as was the 2004 presidential election in the U.S.

Oh boy. Good luck tonight, miraja.

Come on Miraja2! How can you compare George Bush to Bin Laden? Bush was not a terrorist. Bush didn't intentionally target civilians.

Bush had good intentions going into Iraq. Not only that, but the vast majority of Iraqis wanted the US to come in and liberate them from Hussein. The polls in Iraq showed that at the time.

Who was Bin Laden liberating by blowing up the World Trade Center?

By the way, if you consider Bush to be a terrorist then I guess Obama is too since he is continuing the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan. I guess Obama is a "murderous thug" in your opinion just like Bush.

Her comments aren't shocking. What is shocking is a chick who is a liberal and into natural foods is a lard ass. She musta been gigantor before the liberal media/Hollywood told her what to eat.

No, the issue on this thread is hating Muslims. Keep up.

I almost understand why a high percentage of Muslim men beat their women after reading your posts. You are a despicable bint.

That's because it's not there. Never was.

I'll weigh the validity of that statement in light of the significance of the person it comes from.




Pooof. Nothing.

Too bad, Pillow.

Here's the kevlar. Enjoy :tro:

So who do you like in the 5th at Belmont tomorrow? Oh wait..you're one of those weirdos that frequent horse racing message boards just for the politics section and the occasional hack opinion on vet issues.

So you agree with Miraja2 that Bush was a "murderous thug"? If so, then I guess you feel the same way about Obama since he continues the policies of Bush in terms of continuing the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I noticed that you haven't admitted that your belief that Bin Laden was not popular in the Muslim world was totally wrong.

didn't the Depends wearing, esteemed Senator from WV. who used to be Grand Poohbah KKK, die? That would leave 5999. They still couldn't win a fight on Springer.

[quote=Rupert Pupkin;651117]So you agree with Miraja2 that Bush was a "murderous thug"?

I understand the point Miraja2 was attempting to make with the part of the paragraph that referred to Bush.

"Yeah, sometimes people who give orders that directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians somehow manage to retain high approval ratings in their home areas."

LOL - probably as I don't think the fact that bin Laden isn't popular in the least throughout the majority of the Muslim world is wrong at all. I think that thought has been repeatedly demonstrated by the Muslim communities of multiple countries over the past many years. The Muslim world doesn't consist of one homegeneous religious sect, located in 2003 Indonesia. Or Pakistan. Or Jordan. It's not even "one sect" within those three countries. Let alone the multiple other countries that have major Muslim populations of varying beliefs. Seems some don't know that there are at least 50 differing religious sects that fall under "Islam". I keep reading that "Muslims" are terroristic, American-hating, murderous, child f'ng thugs that all think alike. Millions of people, all the same. I say that thought is a load of false, bigoted crap.

And yeah - I think terrorists who kill - domestic or foreign - are scum that should be dead.

[quote=Riot;651135]The bottom line is that Bin Laden was popular in most Muslim countries around 2003. Over 50% of Muslims supported Bin Laden in many Muslim countries. Do you know of many (or any) Muslim countries where he wasn't popular?

[quote=Rupert Pupkin;651140]The bottom line is some lump all "Muslims" together as a religious cult of terrorists to hate and fear, and some don't.