I'm still saying 4 more years..

The Republicans can be counted on to drag out some right wing freak and the tea baggers will do to this freak what Nader did to Gore and I get to watch Nascar implode...beautiful.

The best part is we all get to vote and see ....unless by then the government decides that voting is bad for us lol :D

I actually agree with you about this. I think a lot of Republicans go overboard with their constant criticism of Obama, no matter what he does, and these people do lose some credibility. Although I think the left was guilty of this too when Bush was President.

With regards to the whole birthplace issue, I honestly think there could be something there. I may lose some credibility with you guys over it, but the the whole thing just looks fishy to me.

I agree with you that it is still conceivable that Obama could get re-elected, especially if the Tea Party runs as a 3rd party.

The Tea Party is not a Party It's a Movement.

You must have missed the Bush years when Democrats took bashing to a new level.

Outside of the Iraq war, I never saw the hysteria against Bush that the right generates against Obama. The left doesn't have...and doesn't need..the Limbaugh's, Becks, etc to whip up the masses.

they don't have limbaughs and becks for lack of trying...liberal radio always fails for whatever reason...

and i laugh when folks say obama is trying to tear up the constitution, since a couple years ago the same was being said about bush with the patriot act.

I think the Tea Party is not a "movement", it's a political manipulation by Dick Armey and Fox News.

Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point. The GOP has nobody to run against him. Romney-Pawlenty won't do it. None of the most conservative right would survive on the top of the ticket. The bottom of the ticket (whose point would be exactly like Palin, to try and suck the ultra-right hysterical masses in): won't be Palin, Jindal, Rand Paul, Huckabee, Scott Brown. Not much left over there.

LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.

I wouldn't have used the phrase "landslide", but you do have to wonder who the Right will end up with. Your "movement"..love that term for them by the way;) is going to help more than hurt the righties chances.

it's too soon to tell what will happen in the next election. if it were held right now, regardless of who the right ran, obama would be in for a fight. two wars that obama was supposed to end that continue to drag on, an unpopular health bill, high unemployment, higher debt, higher spending, an oil leak that shows no sign of abating or being fixed....

it wasn't that long ago, after clinton left and bush took over, that people were eulogizing the democratic party. things change, and will change again.

By all means -- yeah, we don't know who the other candidate will be. I was just amazed that Riot was so certain about the landslide given the same (lack of) information.

One thing I am comfortable saying is, if Cap and Trade passes, Obama has absolutely no shot. His approval ratings will be 2008 Bush like. People care about their paycheck more than they do about the President.

Maybe you're right. But unless we UNDO the travesties of ObamaCare and, God forbid, "Cap and Trade", then it's "the left steps forward, and the right steps nowhere, until the left wins again."

We've got to start cutting out some of this cancer.

There is one thing that I am certain of, that Riot will distort anything obama-related regardless of circumstances.

The GOP may be smart by playing it close to the vest with its next potential candidate. By shortening the time between the emergence of the top person and the election, they are lessening the amount of time to dig up dirt, keeping the pressure on obama, and being able to quickly gain momentum with a new guy who the general public doesnt have any opinion about a la Obama especially if things continue to go the way they are in this country.

Of course they may just be a bunch of idiots who dont have a clue like Riot believes but then again they got her to vote for George Bush so they may just have something up their sleeve.

Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc

And I used to think you were a better man.

I have slipped for sure without my HgH shots

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?

You are slipping too

For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.

statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc

so what are you trying to say here..southern blacks love him..wrong..

you can add about 100,000 cajun oil workers[ deep well] and the ships that supply them and the truckers that bring the supplys and the mechanic that works on the trucks ect ect ect.. that hes trying to phuck over.

Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.

Well the left does have MSNBC. You know Keith, Rachel. The left also has Bill Mahar on HBO among others.

I think what you saw with President Bush was the hate the opposition had for him. At least thats what I saw.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ics_And_Policy


POLITICSJUNE 23, 2010.

Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook

By PETER WALLSTEN And ELIZA GRAY
Americans are more pessimistic about the state of the country and less confident in President Barack Obama's leadership than at any point since Mr. Obama entered the White House, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.


Sixty-two percent of adults in the survey feel the country is on the wrong track, the highest level since before the 2008 election. Just one-third think the economy will get better over the next year, a 7-point drop from a month ago and the low point of Mr. Obama's tenure.

Amid anxiety over the nation's course, support for Mr. Obama and other incumbents is eroding. For the first time, more people disapprove of Mr. Obama's job performance than approve. And 57% of voters would prefer to elect a new person to Congress than re-elect their local representatives, the highest share in 18 years.



Support for Mr. Obama and his party is declining among centrist, independent voters. But, more ominous for the president, some in his base also are souring, with 17% of Democrats disapproving of Mr. Obama's job performance, the highest level of his presidency.

[quote]Uh ... no. That's opposite to what I wrote.

West coast conservitive constitutional lesbian with strict fiscal regulations on the federal government will be looking for someone with those ideals. As it stands anyone with 2 years or less in congress with no leadership skills can be a major player.

I just read that article. There so many poll numbers in there that look really bad for Obama and the Democrats. The article says that when Obama first became President, 70% of people thought he had "strong leadership qualities". Right now that number is down to 49%. That is a huge drop.

The article makes it sound like the Democrats are going to take huge losses at the polls in November.

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

If the downward trend continues it will be Romney. He "fixed" the Winter Olympics.

I think Romney is the only possible top of the ticket right now.

Agreed.

The books can be cooked to all the extent your imaginograph wants them to be, yet Bush still added trillions to that. Cold fact, can't change it.

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm:rolleyes:

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.

You can second guess a lot of things on both sides..that's easy

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.