Wouldn't you admit that it is sometimes accurate - and therefore perfectly acceptable - to call a person a racist?
Do you think it is ever acceptable to call a person a n****r?
If not, does it really make sense to equate the two?

I've already stated that falsely labelling someone a racist is all about HATE and a total misunderstanding of what the words "racist" and "racism" truly mean.

Saying a Nazi, a member of the KKK, a member of the Aryan Nation, or any hate group is a racist is accurate.

The "N" word is a despicable word. It was even way back when I was a kid growing up many decades ago. I find it incongruous that some black people use that word frequently - even in rap songs.

i don't think calling someone racist who exhibits all the traits of being one is about hate. i do however find racist or sexist slurs to be exclusively about hate.
i find it funny when one side says the other is a kool aid drinker, but their side is all about the truth. if both sides say that, don't they cancel each other out??? democrat supporters say the exact same thing as republican supporters-and vice versa, it's really hilarious. bush was destroying the country, and now obama is the evil puppet on a string. obama supporters quickly say it's not all obamas fault when things go wrong, but it's all because of him when things go right-but they said all things bad were bushes fault, and that he did nothing right when he was in there. nothing original about any of this. but each side is sooo adamant about their party being the correct one.

It seems that the words "racist" and "racism" have taken on a new meaning - any form of criticism toward a minority is now considered racism.

I also find it incongruous when someone brings up the subject of disrespecting the current President when it was perfectly alright to disrespect the previous President. Double standards run amuk.

No - there is nothing original about any of any name calling or accusations from either side.

My attempt to point out that calling someone a racist is a terrible accusation unless they truly are according to the true meaning of the word is falling on a lot of deaf ears.

WEBSTER's definition:

racism definition rac·ism (rā′siz′əm) (and anyone who practices racism is a racist)

noun

1.belief in or doctrine asserting racial differences in character, intelligence, etc. and the superiority of one race over another or others: racist doctrine also, typically, seeks to maintain the supposed purity of a race or the races
2.any program or practice of racial discrimination, segregation, etc., specif., such a program or practice that upholds the political or economic domination of one race over another or others
3.feelings or actions of hatred and bigotry toward a person or persons because of their race

That's like a person going shopping spending 100,000 dollars on a boat, then crowing about "saving" 1,200 bucks on the trim.
The fact is that burying the country with so much additional debt before the
"expansion matures" is ludicrous.

Dispencer.......can it already.





OK?

So PM me! There's definately a disconnect somewhere. I am upset that you consider a kind and fair respone to be my intimating that you're a whining queer(or something like that)and should just shut up. I have no guilt about being white and heterosexual! How is that privilege? Are you getting cosmic on me,Brian?

Fair Tax? You're asking what I mean by the Fair Tax? Wonderful book - answers all the questions. If you can't afford to buy it, I'll lend you my copy provided you promise to give it back. Or better still, I'll buy you a copy. Just let me know if you TRULY are interested in becoming educated on the Fair Tax. It'll do away with the IRS instead of adding thousands to the payroll to monitor who has the BO Healthcare plan.

http://www.amazon.com/FairTax-Book-N.../dp/0060875410

But, the Dems in power don't want a Fair Tax because they won't be able to control how much tax people choose to pay. The Healthcare program has nothing to do with healthcare. It's all about control and everything that Obama is proposing "for the good of the American people" is all about control.

Re Israel - I'd rather pay the money to support them than the thousands upon thousands of illegal alliens that are in this country contributing largely to the national deficit.

The cost of illegal aliens in this country is less than what we spend on Israel.



Boortz- yes, I like this guy a lot. Of all the numnuts on the radio spewing their wacky views he's one of the few I feel aligned with on just about every issue. I know about the Fair Tax plan and think it's a great idea... which will never pass. I drew a blank because it was 5 years ago when I last heard about it...

But Doreen, to blame it on Dems is FACTUALLY INCORRECT. The bill was introduced in 2005 to the 109th Congress... which was a REPUBLICAN MAJORITY in both houses, and was voted down.

At least when you're talking to me, you're the only one talking about Obama. I don't give a fig about Obama in this conversation, just your absolutely looney, offensive idea that the word "racist" is the same as the "N" word. You know what I'm too lazy to find a better word for? Racists. So "racist" will do. It has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with calling racists what they are.

Yea, you know who especially hates being called a racist? Racists. Just like you may be aware of the people who especially hate being called homophobes are? The most hateful homophobes out there take the biggest offense from it.

And all this "oh it's the same thing" trash is just a great way to try to turn racism back around on the people who are calling it out and trying to marginalize them by making *them* look like the crazy ones. To somehow say that you can't be a racist if you don't wear a hood or belong to the Aryan Nation is positively ridiculous....much like 97% of the words Doreen has posted in this thread in an attempt to excuse racism.

WTF? This makes no sense.

Truth

And the most hateful homophobes often are closeted gays.

BWS - I wish I could get angry at you, but the only emotion I can come up with is pity. You're too full of hatred yourself which makes you think everyone else suffers from the same emotion.

True, but it is really inaccurate to limit racism to members of those groups. Are there people who believe racist things, or who sometimes behave in racist ways that are associated with the Tea Party movement but aren't a part of any of these groups? You bet. Everybody who is a thinking person knows that.
But it goes a lot farther than that. There are a lot of people I know who have said some pretty racist things over the years who voted FOR Obama. They would never consider themselves racist, and I know some who would love to point to their vote for Obama as some sort of "get out of racism free" card. But none of that changes the fact that they view the world - at least in part - through a prism of racism. That doesn't mean they won't vote for a guy because they consider him "black," or that they would refuse to work with a person they consider "black," or that they are going to be attending a Klan meeting anytime soon, but it does mean that race and racism plays a role in their lives.
I bet there are a lot of "white" people who voted for Obama and hate the Klan, but would still be somewhat disturbed or bothered if their son or daughter decided to marry a person they considered "black." Those people aren't frothing-at-the-mouth racists, but would a term like "not a racist bone in their body" apply to them? I don't think so.
The world is not neatly divided into people who wear sheets on their heads and people who are "not racist." It would be nice if it worked that way....but it doesn't. These are complicated issues, and racism continues to play a huge role in society, although in much subtler ways than it did in the nineteenth or twentieth centuries.

I've always thought it was clear that saying you pity someone is the same as calling someone the N word...I can't believe you did that.

The fact that you equate descriptive words used to describe a person's actions with those words used to marginalize entire groups of people for hundreds of years is hilarious...or it would be if it wasn't so pathetic. I assume you think the words "talkative," "thoughtful," and "friendly" are the same as the N word too? Because they are no different than the word "racist." They are descriptors used to describe someone....and Doreen, if the shoe fits, wear it.

I want a crutch too!!

I'm not here to try and chip through your cubic yard of cerebral concrete. You have your opinions and views on the ills of America, and I have mine. But, you really are a very hateful person, and you should seek professional attention.

wow..running away from this one..:eek::wf

LOL!

You're hilarious...and probably way further off the rocker than I gave you credit for last night, if you think that my wondering about the fact that you give the N-word and the word "racist" equal billing in the hate category makes *me* hateful.

You'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to spell that one out and make a good case for tagging me with that word. At best, you're a pathetic apologist for racists everywhere, at worst...well, at worst it's much worse than that.

So you are saying that this was the only/main issue that he ran on? And he won because of it? And here I thought the economy collapsing and the wars we were fighting were the main focus of the last election...

Speaking as someone who has family who does need professsional attention, I think you need to look in the mirror. The hate starts with the a-holes you listen to....I'm glad you have formed your own opinion about why the Health Care bill sucks..oh yeah...because it doesn't help YOU...lol

Look..Nascar needs competition

LOL

Oh the nerve of those people! Treating Mr Obama rudely! Surely George Bush never was treated in such a manner.

You are so completely brainwashed that it is comical.

He's fallen behind in a hurry -- Doreen just made a HUGE middle move up the backstretch.

Typical responses from hateful left wing Obama apologists - when they can't dazzle with brilliance, they baffle with BS.

Now I really must leave you for several hours. Play nice!;)

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill!!! So people disagree with you and they're off their rocker? No...that's not hateful:rolleyes:
Still waiting for those insightful PMs!

Are you sure you aren't Pedigree Ann?

Please come back soon..And try and debate an issue ...try google...if you really want to make a point. "Left Wing Obama apoligists" won't cut it. I've already pointed out where I disagree with Obama on here many times. Maybe try googling "Glen Beck agrees with President Obama"....there has to be something he has done that isn't ruining YOUR country.

Not in general. At times you are off your rocker; at times we just disagree.

Someone who really, truly thinks that the word "racist" and the N-word are exactly the same thing is off his or her rocker, and a sad apologist for racists everywhere.

That's not hateful, which is a word I'd use for racism apologists, but am trying not to, lest I use one of the most horrific words in the English language here towards Doreen.

And I decided from your last response about the PMs that it's not worth it to even try to explain what I was talking about.

Typical response from friends of racists everywhere, trying to make it about Obama rather than about the fact that you seem to pretty much be okay with racism in general and have perfected your techniques for blaming its victims rather than making those guilty of it responsible, which in my vast experience, is something lots of racists do -- whether you actually are one or not, you've certainly co-opted their tactics. Oh well, won't be the first time, won't be the last time.

I hate most humans so I guess that makes me a racist as well. I don't care really. F.uck your identity and cause.

Brian...I'm suprised you don't want to straighten me out. Just remember...you brought up the PMs then backed out!

[quote=Coach Pants;635360]I hate most humans so I guess that makes me a racist as well. I don't care really. F.uck your identity and cause.[/QUOTE

Juliette Lewis is hot in that movie.

and Ron Paul is a Republican...mmmm

I'm aware I'm backing out of the offer. It's not that I wouldn't love for you to see what I'm talking about -- it's that I have predicted a 100% failure rate of that actually happening, so I'm going to pass.

While I am not a big Nascar fan, I live in KY, do support the NRA would be considered conservative and I dont consider myself to be racist.

And I dislike Obama's agenda because we dont really know these people well enough to dislike or hate them personally. I mean the guy does like basketball and baseball which puts him a few spots ahead of Marx and Mao. (a joke for the PC)

But what really amuses me is people like Riot who start fights over relatively meaningless subjects like Glenn beck and Sarah Palin (neither of which currently hold a position of authority and are basically paid entertainers) and believe themselves to be somehow neutral!

I always expect BWS to offer his opinions on subjects based upon his version of the world which is much different than many others here. I dont always agree with his take but respect his opinion. Nascar has a completely different view of the world based upon his experiences yet no one seems to respect most of what he has to say. While I admit that his pettiness and namecalling can surely not help the cause, he does bring a different view.

Now with that out there a random poster that didnt agree with brian would be 1000 times more likely to be called homophobic than a label being attached to someone who disagreed with Nascar.

NO GUTS-NO GLORY, BUDDY!

This thread is nothing compared to what's going to follow in the next 30-36 months in this sub-forum.

Yeah sure and the next step is to pass some legislation to muzzle him and those like him because they are a "danger" to our country....

:D