Is that really any different than any other politician?

I don't know if this has been touched on but allowing the tax cuts to expire is not the same as raising taxes. Just like causing the cost of living to go through the roof with Cap and Trade and other non-sense is technically not raising taxes.

My medicare and socialism security goes up and I have less money but that is not rasing taxes.

The price of goods go up and I have to pay more for them and more for sales tax. Again he can say he didn't raise taxes

He could make my check shrink to almost half and not raise taxes.

btw

I didn't need anyone to tell me this. I'm not a puppet like uh uh Obama and the O pologists

See, anyone can see the level of hate for this guy is white hot. They aren't gunna work with a guy they think is an uppity brotha. That is an immature emotion (hope.) How can someone ever do well if so much of the country would rather he fail? Basically got the GOV'T shut for next 3 years. Then we'll vote again.

Bloomberg site = non-starter.... WSJ = non-starter.... Fox News = non-starter.

He's 90% Bullshit. Some of the others are only 20% Bullshit. Evan Bayh is almost 100% Bullshit. He only believes in Evan. He's a Big-H HO.

Ok Scuds, this is a op-ed by the way but ok.

Those 3 sites are foul. It's Conservative reading. How can you gloss over that ? Here..Let me edit the articles down (almost all the stuff that comes from those sites.)

OBA FKN IT UP THIS WAY!
OBA FKN IT UP THAT WAY!
OBA FKN IT UP A NEW WAY!
OBA A COLOSSAL FK UP!

Laugh, but it's true. What the lady say there? OBA FKN IT UP.... Huge news.

clearly you are motivated solely by race. what if the reason is something valid like he is a freaking statist and all of his chicago corruption cronies

The race card can be played many ways. If you disagree with the President's policies you must be a racist. One way to get people to keep quiet these days is to make them feel like they are "politically incorrect", or worse, a RACIST. How dare anyone go against our shiny new Prez. He inherited the mess, after all. Sometimes he seems like he didn't know he was running for an office that was about to inherit a mess.

He's gambling and putting it all on red.

Might work out.

With a Chinese wheel where red blinks on and off and the ball dropper has a peddle.

Maybe that ball-dropper has a heart attack just at the time he drops the ball. That's what is called HOPE.

I think a lot of it's race. Like I said, I don't remember Conservatives going after anybody this much. They block him on everything, and then say he doesn't do anything to help people. Far as the Statist stuff goes, if you're Black, then who do you have to thank for saving the plight of Black people in this country? Big Business? NO. The free market Capitalism you espouse ? Oh, hell no. They'd still be dirt poor, n' working hard while making whitey richer. No, this government intervention you so hate is responsible for saving these people. White people in the South weren't gunna change their ways. They were forced by the Federal Gov't to change their ways. I think that has a lot to do with Black people being for a strong Federal Gov't. For them, it's what saved them (Capitalism, alone, wasn't going to do it.) I just find it odd to be looking around n' tending to accuse Blacks as being Socialists. In case you haven't noticed, these are some pretty damn competitive people. It's not like they start funding the Green Party when they make some bank. These are Capitalists who believe in a strong Federal Gov't (because it saved them.) Does Obama shun rich Black People? Hardly. If you listen to their music, what do you mainly hear? Oh, I can tell you it usually isn't Socialism. No, folks, it's all self-centered Capitalistic stuff (my car, my pretty woman, my gun, my furs, my diamond rings, my palace.) So, they aren't gunna make very good Socialists, but each time you want to destroy the Federal Gov't, you drive these people further away. All they trust is a Federal Gov't.

Seriously why even bother? I get knocked for posting op-ed pieces despite the forum supposedly being a place to share opinions. Not to mention a great deal of the lefties here simply dismiss a link that is from a source they deem is too conservative. They dont bother to even read them and rarely offer any substantive rebuttal. What you posted was a pretty interesting take on what is going on using facts and figures and stating the holes in what the govt is feeding us in a fairly clearcut manner. But the chances that one person offers a serious opinion on why they disagree without calling the source or writer biased or an idiot is nil.

Yeah right. I'm sure the GOP tried to get Clinton impeached because he was white. And if you were considered a conservative on this board you would regularly be skewed as a racist.

also very true.

Not at all. You assume too much. She's obviously an idiot (I'd say she's retarded, but I note she attacked Rush Limbaugh as he called her retarded today, but didn't call for his resignation) but she's pretty good at lying and inciting a crowd to verbal violence, and neglecting to put brakes on the hate and fear-mongering. Worse part is she say's it's God's will. I consider that pretty evil. Doesn't require brains when you put words in her head (McCain campaign) and tell her to spout them.

Poor Sarah has property tax problems now in Alaska, and took half her SarahPAC money to buy her own books wholesale. Probably so she could get the 10% kickback cash from the publisher. Can't wait until this weekend, and the Tea Party in Nashville. Hope she earns her $110,000 speaking fee. Even Michelle Bachmann, the acme of looney tunes, has backed out of this mess.

Ah, yes, but the poll I posted wasn't from or by DailyKos, was it?

Naw, I'm talking about how the GOP needed the religious right for wins the last 10 years - how Bush got elected, etc. They needed it for McCain, it was the only reason Palin was on the ticket. The GOP is not damping down the religious right in the least. It's about all they have left of their party.

Your obscession is troubling.
Verbal violence? Go to a Rangers game with an Islanders jersey on and you will see verbal violence.
The Democrats are still the league leaders in hate speech. What was said about Bush 2 far trumps anything Palin has said.

She works for Fox News, you really think she is hurting for cash? You know what they pay those guys?

No the quotes were from Mr Kos.

Naw, do him the favor, he craves the attention :D

I had planned to vote for McCain for two years. But then, they picked Palin.

Yeah. Politicians do differ. Gotta read the fine print, and find your priorities.

They havent done too bad lately for a party that you keep inferring to as dead.

But you are correct in they have pandered too much to the far right. Once they figure out the RR is voting for them anyway and follow the Scott Brown Model, the dems will get routed.

I don't remember them doing (to Clinton) all this stuff you see here:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ist&FORM=BIFD#

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...eb&fr=chr-yie8

http://images.google.com/images?q=ob...N&hl=en&tab=wi

I have to disagree, n' say a lot of it's racist. I don't think the typical Conservative is involved with it, but they are not speaking out strongly against it. They quietly tolerate it.

Serious - is Evan a combover, or a bad toupee? I really can't tell?

You keep saying that you were a Republican, yet you have posted 3000 consecutive posts without saying one nice thing about any member of the GOP? You have adopted the entire Obama agenda pretty much verbatim despite few of the philosophies being something that a longtime member of the GOP would agree with. You routinely savage Palin and use her to knock the GOP despite her no longer having an affiliation with the party. You go apeshit on McCain for supposedly reversing positions yet you swoon over Obama who has reversed positions on any number of issues.

Then you go and say you were ready to vote for a guy who campaigned against a great deal of your stated positions simply because you didnt care for his running mate?



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http://www.mofopolitics.com/2008/10/...obamas-mother/

Maybe they did this sort of stuff to Clinton. I missed it.

C'mon. If they had photoshop back then he would have got it too. Just look at some of the stuff printed about Bush. I dont like Obama because I dont agree with his politics. A lot of people think the same. His race is really not a factor for most. I would have been against the green phoney(Gore) or that stiff (Kerry) and they are both lilly white.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...t&sp=3&sc=3-8#

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a&sp=4&sc=7-7#

Sigh .... your debate methodology is so predictable:

1) First attack the other poster personally ("your obscession (sic)... "
2) Change the subject to something else and create a straw man ("go to a Rangers' game ..." )
3) Change the subject again, second straw man, and go on the attack for distraction ("The Dems are league leaders ... ")

My post was about Sarah Palin. Care to discuss the qualities of Sarah Palin as the leader of the free world?

My obscession (sic) is fear for our country. This complete idiot was a candidate for Vice President of this country.

If you think the Dems are the league leaders in hate speech, I suggest you get out in the real world. No, the Dem Presidential tickets did NOT say the same things about Bush that Palin said about Obama.

Apparently you don't read very well.

That's Indiana. That's what that mess is.

So what? Ignore it. The quotes were not the point. Just read the poll results. Objective, respected, professional polling org.

No, I fear they are dead, Chuck. They have done badly. They lost the NY 23rd Congressional seat, a seat that hasn't been Dem for 40 years?

The GOP didn't even support Scott Brown. He was on his own. He ran against a rock, a nothing. He ran a brilliant campaign, I give him great credit for that - he's really a very moderate guy (pro-choice, voted yes to Mass healthcare, etc) who didn't campaign as a Republican at all (it was not mentioned in any of his ads), and who campaigned essentially on two inflammatory hot button issues. And notice that since he's been on the national scene, he hasn't made much commitment one way or the other.

The GOP didn't really win Mass as much as the Dems lost it by lack of participation (and deserved the loss). In other words, I can't read Mass as a massive GOP resurgence.

I think alot of the RR won't vote for a GOP if a Tea Party candidate is available. That's how NY 23rd was lost - split vote Teabag and GOP, the Dem won clearly.

Wouldn't you think most of this was done because of political ideology?
I don't think showing OBAMA WITH A BONE THROUGH HIS NOSE IS SIMPLY DONE BECAUSE OF POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

C'mon you start a Palin thread at ever shred of Palin news and your extreme hatred for her is strange.
2) That was called a joke. You know making fun of your fear of "verbal violence"
3) The Dems are far more accomplished at hate speech which is a topic YOU brought up in your post.

Discussing Sarah Palin as leader of the free world is not something that you do. You simply savage her at every occasion which is fine but hardly discussion worthy. You take offense at my characterization of you as being obcessed with palin but how exactly is that an insult? You are.

As far as the hate speech, Is the real world now only characterized by what is said by politicians running for office? The real hate spewed against Bush may never be topped.

And for your information a complete idiot is presently vice president of our country.

Perhaps but i can read between the lines

You say this as though you are an authority on pollsters...