Yeah, that was apparently an emotional question for you to answer based on your next post.

Had I known you thought I was calling you a liar, I'd have phrased my question more delicately.

You didn't answer my other questions though. Namely, what do you see in this horse, or know about him, that makes you so high on his future?

Yeah, I just watched that one.

That was pretty impressive, especially with how wide he went, how green he was, and how geared down he was at the end.

I just watched a super nice Godolphin 2yo in England win his debut a month ago. He opened up 7 in the lane before being geared down. The horse he put away to open up by 7 ended up closing the cap to 3-4.

He's by Shamardal and his second dam is Urban Sea.

Oh yeah, the name is Burj Nahar.

For those that don't remember that sire, Shamardal, he won 6 of his 7 starts. His lone loss came on his one dirt try in Dubai. Half of those 6 wins were in grade 1s, including the French Derby. He made a hair under 2 mil.

He is by Giants Causeway out of a full sister to Street Cry.

This has got to be one of the best bred 2yos out there.

Don't know about under the radar, but Super Saver looks like a promising horse for Todd P. Already has 172K in the bank, and set a new stakes record winning in impressive style last Sat. at Churchill.

I'll be watching Aikenite closely. Stalked and won at 1st asking going 6f, then closed from dead last in the Hopeful going 7f to finish 3rd. Then moved to synthetics stretching out. Think this one may be able to move forward back on dirt.

Been in my watch list......
 

Since breaking his maiden first out in the slop at Hawthorne for Dale Romans
My Time To Star. He was passed then re rallied very nicely to win. He won a $100,000 stake in his second start by 7 or 8 lengths, very impressive. Now he's in tomorrow night's Delta Jackpot, and I think he will be tough. I thought I heard him brought up on ATR the other day? I'll be keeping an eye on this Five Star Day colt.

Yeah, I think it was Steve that brought him up, cause I wrote it down too.

I was pretty high on a 2 year old named Bear's Hard Ten up until his last race. He ran lousy in an allowance race at Woodbine and he didn't appear to have any excuses. We'll see if he can bounce back tomorrow. He's running in a stakes race at Woodbine tomorrow. If he runs the way he is capable of running, I think he can win. I'm just not sure which horse will show up tomorrow after the poor effort in his last race. The fact that Reade Baker is running him in this stakes race after the poor effort in the allowance race is a good sign. You wouldn't think they would run him in this spot if he wasn't doing well. Maybe they corrected whatever it was that caused him to run so poorly last time. He's had 6 weeks off since that race and he's showing some good works. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

STRONGLY AGREE.

There is a 4x4 Mr Prospector, 5x4 Northern Dancer. Nothing new there . Tail male Northern Dancer crossed with tail male Northern Dancer . Again, a routine cross.
Shamardal is a full to Street Cry not Burj Nahar. BN's dam, Malikah, has produced nothing of note on the track to date. However, 2nd dam Urban Sea is compelling.

Shamdaral is a half to Street Cry, not a full.

But yeah, you were right in implying that my post wasn't very clear when I was talking about who was related to Street Cry.

I don't know if any of you saw the race today, but he did run the way I always thought he was capable of running. He won by 5 lengths. I was disappointed with the price. He only paid $7.60. He had just gotten crushed in a nwx1 allowance race. The race today was a $150,000 stakes race. It was only a 7 horse field, but I would have still expected to get 5-1.

How about the Jerkens first timer today at Aqueduct, he spots the field almost 10 lenghts and wins for fun. Bet off the tote early. Afleet Alex is the sire.

Im kinda excited to see this one run first time dirt at Gulfstream.

I hope he can run as well on dirt as synthetic. He does have some grass breeding on his bottom side. His dam's dam is by Diesis (GB). Some horses that have some grass breeding on the bottom side run better on synthetic than regular dirt. Although this horse has a half-brother that won on the dirt. I'm not sure about his half-sister. I don't have her PPs.

Anyway, my best guess is that Bear's Hard Ten will handle regular dirt but we won't know for sure until he tries it.

By the way, things are starting to pick up for RHT a little bit. This is his 2nd stakes winner in the last week.

Was looking at Tiz Chrome's female family (anybody got a picture of TC himself?) and realized his dam's half to Designed for Luck who appears to've vanished into the ether. Does anybody know what happened to him?

ETA: Found this vid of TC, still can't see him up close but it was fun to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz0Iy...ayer_embedded#

Actually still not quite there. Shamardal's dam Helsinki is a full sister to Street Cry, her being by Machiavellian out of Helen Street. Shamardal's not full or half anything to SC, I guess you say he's 'from the immediate family of' or something?

BHT's half-sis was 22/4-3-4 on dirt, all in sprints, with a high Beyer of 72.

Yeah. Lack of sleep is killing me.

I tried saying that the dam of Shamdaral is a full to Street Cry. I don't know how I messed that one up so bad in the second post.

Tiz Chrome is a cool lookin horse.

You are talking about Playinthemeadow, right? How do you get the full record like that? That would be very useful for me.

No worries. ;) We've all been there. I rewatched the race again and wow Tiz Chrome's face is striking. All of him really, they weren't kidding with the chrome reference.

I noticed after the Lost Code discussion regarding Lost Aptidude and Maximus Ruler that Tiz Chrome and Walking the Beach are both out of Woodman mares.

Yes, Playinthemeadow. DRF sibling summary.

I have unlimited PPs at DRF.com, but I didn't even know about the sibling summary. Where do you find it?

You have to be in formulator and you click the dam... You will see it, its always in blue. I never knew till Hockey2315 told me over the summer during Saratoga.

How big is Bear's Hard Ten? http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...display-stakes He looks big to me, and I figured with his sire it wasn't a stretch to think he really was. Sometimes it's for me hard to gauge, I need another pair of eyes.

If you're not in Formulator, when you open Premium PPs for a track, there should be a bunch of options above the PP links (Selections, Analysis, etc.), and Sibling Summary should be the last one. Like RHT said, if you're in Formulator, click on the dam's name.

impressive...though I tend to discount any run in the slop...obviously a very talented horse.

The time was pretty slow, but the way he was bet you have to think hes the goods.

He was a friends favorite when they prepped him as a baby. We have the mare here where I work so fingers crossed that he does well and goes on.

Probably that Brisnet pedigree CD-ROM they sell for a ridiculous amount.

:rolleyes:

Have you ever seen that CD?

It's got every TB bred in the USA going back about 50-60 years. Every mares every foal. It's pretty sweet.

I just have the basic PDF PPs. I see "Selections", Analysis", etc. but I don't see "Sibling Summary". I guess you need to have either Formulator or Premium PPs. I should have switched to Formulator a long time ago. I'm just so used to using the basic PPs that I didn't want to switch. But it sounds like Formulator has alot of extra features that would be very useful to me. When my current plan expires, I will switch to Formulator.

I think he's got some size to him but you can't always tell on the videos. I've been fooled before.

There is a 3 year old I really like named Hunch. He's actually entered on Friday at Hollywood Park. I think they're just going to give him the race as a prep for the Malibu. He hasn't run in 6 months. He's eligible to run nwx1 and there is a nwx1 on the main track on Sunday at 6 1/2 furlongs. Instead of running him in there, they're running him over his conditions in a nwx2 on Friday on the grass at 6 furlongs. The horse has never run on the grass. The race on Sunday is 13 days before the Malibu. I think they're running him on Friday instead for two reasons. First, he will have an extra 2 days (15 instead of 13) before the Malibu. Second, they don't want him to run too hard so they don't want to run him on his preferred surface. Those are the only possible two reasons why they would want to run him in a nwx2 on the grass instead of a nwx1 on a track that he loves.

I guess they could be thinking that the race on Friday may come off the grass, but why would they take the gamble? Once in a while in California, the racing secretary will allow a guy to enter for "main track only" even though it's not denoted in the DRF in California. I guess that is a possibility. But that wouldn't make much sense because entires for Sunday are tomorrow. Tomorrow when they draw entires for Sunday, they won't even know if the race on Friday is coming off the grass or not.

One more possibility is that they may feel they absolutely have to give him a prep race before the Malibu, and they didn't want to take a chance of Sunday's race not filling.

Anyway, assuming they just give him the race on Friday, he will probably be 15-1 in the Malibu. That would be the time to bet him. If he runs hard and wins the allowance race, I wouldn't like him coming back in two weeks.

The race today ended up coming off the grass and it ended up being a 4 horse field. Hunch was 8-5, which isn't a bad price on the best horse in a 4 horse field. I couldn't make a big bet though because I did find out that they were in fact planning on running in the Malibu in 15 days. So I knew that they didn't want him to run too hard today. He ended up winning pretty easily. He was geared down the final 70 yards or so. He didn't run his hardest but he still ran harder than I would have liked for a horse that is going to run back in 15 days. I'm on the fence about him in the Malibu.

On Monday, Neil Howard unleashed a Smart Strike 2yo named Bravo Whiskey (race 7 at the Fair Grounds), who romped going 6f on the slop coming from well off the pace.

So far mentioned for the Malibu:

Misremembered
Papa Clem
Smart Bid
Kinsella
Join In The Dance

I would guess M One Rifle, Chocolate Candy, Massone, Quindici Man, Acclimation, Viscount and Square Eddie might have it on the radar.

What happened to this thread? Its supposed to be good 2 yr olds.

Weren't you answering questions about DRF Formulator on this very page?

But hey, my bad.

I should have waited 2 weeks, then everyone else would be in the same boat.

It's really awesome for when you're bored and just start putting in names of runners you liked at one time or another...amazing how many runners you find that are related to one another in some way that you'd never have thought.

Pretty much the coolest thing ever, in a nerd-out kind of way.

PS - I still like Worldly.