Retired today.

Radiohead to the Juvy...

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...9/breederscup/

Junia Tepzia to the Juvy Fillies Turf...

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...4/breederscup/

Barry Irwin 'warned' about Junia Tepzia on ATR a couple weeks ago, but he also raved about the filly that flopped at Calder Saturday too...

Radiohead will be festooned in the IEAH silks... Currently with Brian Meehan, IEAH said they haven't decided who he will go to after the BC... (Uh huh. Sure they haven't...)

Cool Spreadsheet on Probables
 

LOL

And I won't bet a dime on it even though I'm going. :rolleyes:

Side note, is there anyone who's easier to dislike than Irwin between his ridiculous partnership charges and long line of failed touts?

Bullsbay is likely a go.

In other Breeders’ Cup news:

• Unbeaten champion mare Zenyatta galloped at her Hollywood Park headquarters Thursday, and probably will breeze “in the next couple days,” John Shirreffs said. The trainer plans to pre-enter Zenyatta in the Classic and the Ladies’ Classic at 1 1/8 miles on Nov. 6.
  
  
• Richard Migliore is scheduled to work Godolphin’s Sara Louise on Friday for the $1 million Sentient Jet Filly & Mare Sprint at seven furlongs on Nov. 6.
  
  
• Richard Mandella plans to pre-enter Crown of Thorns in both the $1 million Dirt Mile and the $2 million Sentient Jet Sprint at six furlongs on Nov. 7, with his preference being the Dirt Mile.
  
  
• Dan Ward, assistant to Jerry Hollendorfer, said Oak Leaf Stakes winner Blind Luck ($2 million Grey Goose Juvenile Fillies at 1 1/16 miles on Nov. 6) and Chocolate Candy (Dirt Mile) probably will work Sunday, at a distance to be determined.

-Awesome Gem will run in the B.C. Classic
-Kodiak Kowboy expected for the B.C. Sprint
-QEII Winner Hot Cha Cha is still uncertain for the B.C. Ladies Turf
-No Breeders Cup for Jeff Mullins’ Carlsbad or Battle of Hastings
-Kiaran McLaughlin hopes Hatheer has done enough to have earned a spot in the B.C. Juv. Filly Turf. A division that is chaos because of all of the rain this fall.

KIEREN FALLON will have his first high profile ride for former boss Sir Michael Stoute since his return from an 18-month riding ban when he partners Spanish Moon in the Breeders' Cup Turf at Santa Anita on November 6. Fallon has ridden for Stoute since his return and enjoyed his first Grade 1 success since his comeback when partnering the Marco Botti-trained Gitano Hernando to victory in the Goodwood Stakes at Santa Anita a fortnight ago.

SAEED BIN SUROOR has issued an upbeat bulletin on Delegator and Mastery as they continue their preparation for the Breeders' Cup at Santa Anita next month. Delegator is an intended starter in the Breeders' Cup Mile, along with stablemate Gladiatorus, and is back working well after disappointing in the Sony-sponsored Queen Elizabeth II Stakes. "He worked very well a few days ago and came back very good from his last race," Bin Suroor said on At The Races. "I thought he'd be winning [the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes] or coming somewhere close. "He's always healthy and very honest and I think the track [at Santa Anita] will really suit him."

Yesterday's Workouts:

Amen Hallelujah Juvenile Fillies Aqueduct Four Furlongs 49:38
Awesome Gem Classic Hollywood Park Five Furlongs 1.01:60
Bickersons Juvenile Turf Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 59:40
Biofuel Juvenile Fillies/Juvenile Fillies Turf Woodbine Five Furlongs 1.02:00
Courageous Cat Mile/Turf Belmont Park Four Furlongs 48:88
Court Vision *Mile Aqueduct Four Furlongs 49:63
Devil May Care *Juvenile Fillies Belmont Park Four Furlongs 50:46
Eaton's Gift *Sprint Belmont Park Five Furlongs 1.02:40
Global Hunter (ARG) Mile/Turf Oak Tree At Santa Anita Four Furlongs 49:40
Kays and Jays F&M Sprint Hollywood Park Five Furlongs 1.01:40
Negligee *Juvenile Fillies Belmont Park Four Furlongs 47:44
Nite Light *Marathon/Classic Belmont Park Five Furlongs 1.01:84
Seventh Street Ladies Classic Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 1.01:60
Zenyatta *Ladies Classic/Classic Hollywood Park Six Furlongs 1.11:20

Quantum Racing Team #1 LLC’s 4-year-old gelding Mambo Meister was very impressive winning the $100,000 Spend a Buck Handicap (G3) at Calder Race Course last Saturday by 3 ¾ lengths for trainer Phil Gleaves, and the Florida-bred is likely bound for California and a start in the $1 million Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile (G1) at Santa Anita on Sat., Nov. 7.

“We’ve made arrangements for a cargo flight on the (Sat., Oct.) 31st to get him there,” said Gleaves Friday morning. “We’ve had several discussions with the racing manager of the syndicate, Chris Pallas, and the eight owners and looked at the probable field, and basically decided to give him a chance.

“He’s done very well this week, but we’ll have one more conference call on Sunday before going ahead and making the pre-entry fee on Monday (Oct. 26),” said the veteran horseman who has run two horses previously in Breeders’ Cup events, both in the Juvenile. Happy Jazz Band finished fourth behind Fly So Free in the 1990 renewal at Belmont Park and Devil On Ice 10th in 1991 at Churchill Downs.

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Mambo Meister may be the only horse based at Calder headed for the Breeders’ Cup this year, although there are strong connections to the Miami track from a number of other major contenders, most notably 2-year-olds that launched their careers here earlier this season before being sold privately.

Paul Pompa, Jr.s’ 2-year-old colt D’Funnybone made his first two starts here for trainer Joe Calascibetta, winning his debut on May 23 and finishing second to Jackson Bend in the $100,000 Frank Gomez Memorial on July 11 before being sold shortly thereafter and sent to trainer Rick Dutrow in New York.
A Florida-bred son of D’wildcat, D’Funnybone has since won the Saratoga Special (G2) on Aug. 20 by 10 ½ lengths and The Futurity (G2) at Belmont Park on Sept. 19 by 4 ¾ lengths. He is listed as a probable starter in the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (G1) on Nov. 7.

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Already in California after beginning her career at Calder is Kentucky-bred filly Blind Luck, a daughter of Pollard’s Vision that won her career debut here on June 21 by 13 ¼ lengths for trainer Jim Hatchett. She was purchased shortly thereafter by trainer Jerry Hollendorfer and partners.

In three starts this summer since the purchase, Blind Luck won a starter/allowance at Del Mar in late July, finished a game second in the Del Mar Debutante (G1) in early September and drew off to win the Oak Leaf Stakes (G1) at Santa Anita on Oct. 4, a performance could lead her to be the favorite in the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1) on Fri., Nov. 6.

tvg is saying Indian blessing is out of the F/M Sprint.

from drf:

Two-time champion Indian Blessing will not be pre-entered on Monday for the $1 million Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint at Santa Anita on Nov. 6, trainer Bob Baffert said on Sunday.

Baffert was unhappy with Indian Blessing's six-furlong workout in 1:12.80 on Santa Anita's Pro-Ride surface Sunday morning.

"I think I'm going to pass," he said. "She just doesn't like the track. What can you do? She looks good. It's frustrating.

"I'm not going to pre-enter because I don't want the temptation to change my mind."

Where else can he run her? Wait for Hollywood (which is also synthetic), wait and ship her to Gulfstream (where she would probably do well), or retire her. Dubai is switching over to synthetic, so I assume that is out.

As a fan, I would like to see her race one more time and go out with a win before being bred.

Her defection lowers the odds on Informed Decision, who I really like.

she may not run again from what he said, since they intend to breed her next spring. but she won't be running at the bc.

Cigar Mile? Why not give it a shot?

maybe they will. who knows?

I have always thought she would be a very good miler. Early in her career she would not rate, now she does and IMO would be a decent miler. If Baffert pointed her to the Cigar and she was doing well I think I would take a stab on her regardless of who was running

Pyro drilled a half mile in 48.80 Sunday in preparation for the B.C. Dirt Mile.

Rainbow Quest jogged on Santa Anita’s Pro-Ride track Saturday. Europe’s 2008 champion 2-year-old filly trained by John Gosden is pointing to the $2 million Filly & Mare Turf at 1 1/4 miles on Nov. 6.

Other Breeders’ Cup race candidates on the work tabs Sunday included Presious Passion (Turf), a mile in 1:39.80, Girolamo (Dirt Mile), five furlongs in 1:00.20, and Gayego (Sprint), half-mile in :51.20, all on Santa Anita’s main track.

Santa Anita turf workouts included Noble Court (Turf Sprint), six furlongs in 1:14.40, Becky’s Kitten (Juvenile Turf) in :58.40, and Cowboy Cal (Mile), half-mile in :48.40.

At Hollywood Park, Marsh Side (Turf), went three furlongs on the main track in :37.60…

LEADING 3-YEAR-OLD ECLIPSE CANDIDATE SUMMER BIRD DRILLS FIVE FURLONGS; DESORMEAUX FLYS IN FROM NEW YORK FOR DRILL; TRAINER ICE “SUPER HAPPY”

Belmont, Travers and Jockey Club Gold Cup winner Summer Bird, the leading candidate for an Eclipse Award in the male 3-year-old division, worked five furlongs in 1:00.45 under regular rider Kent Desormeaux Sunday after Oak Tree’s second race. The chestnut son of Birdstone came on the main track at the head of the quarter mile chute, back-tracked to the half mile pole and then jogged and galloped through the stretch and around the Club House turn.

Desormeaux set him down to breeze approaching the five furlong pole and he guided him through splits of 24.42 and 48.56. Summer Bird galloped out six furlongs in 1:13.03 as he continues to prepare for the $5 million Breeders’ Cup Classic at 1 1/4 miles on Nov. 7.

“The work was great,” trainer Tim Ice said after Summer Bird’s drill. “This was exactly what we wanted. He looked super getting over the track and he’s been getting over it very well ever since we got here. Kent had a ton of horse under him and he just let him work on his own, within himself. I’m super-happy with how he’s trained here and how he’s handled everything. We’ll walk tomorrow and he’ll go back to the track Tuesday morning.”

Ice said that Summer Bird would have one more breeze prior to the Breeders’ Cup. “He’ll work five eighths next Saturday,” he said. Desormeaux, who experienced a 3-hour airport runway delay in New York, flew in earlier in the day for the work. With his son Jacob in tow, Desormeaux simply stated, “He enjoyed it and he galloped out super.”

I would expect a start in KY (where she'd be retiring to) in the Chilukki (a one-turn mile Grade 2 I think), if she runs again.

IB obviously hasn't been the same filly since going to Dubai. Hopefully they retire her.

All this talk about the BC was inevitable.

I love Indian Blessing as a horse but unless the field came up very weak (highly unlikely) I wouldnt give her much of a chance. I think the chances are slim and none of Baffert even attempting such a race with her.

The Cigar Mile will be a very popular race for East Coast based sprinters and mid distance types this year, with the BC being out West on synthetics.

Listen I dont have pps but she never did anything wrong at 8-8.5 furlongs, she did get gunned down by Proud Spell who went on to become CHAMPION. Then they turned her into a sprinter. Her Acorn was really good, especially if Zatfig is as good as everyone on here thinks she was.

SUNDAY'S CUP PROSPECT WORKOUTS

Beautician Juvenile Fillies Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 59:00
Black Astor Marathon Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.11:60
Blind Luck *Juvenile Fillies Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.11:80
Bridgetown *Juvenile Turf Oak Tree At Santa Anita Three Furlongs 36:00
Cocoa Beach (CHI) Ladies Classic Oak Tree At Santa Anita Four Furlongs 47:60
Evita Argentina F & M Sprint Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.12:60
Fatal Bullet *Sprint Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 58:80
Ferneley (IRE) *Mile Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.13:00
Gran Estreno (ARG) *Classic Keeneland Five Furlongs 1.02:00
Magical Fantasy *F & M Turf Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 1.01:20
Medici Code (GB) Turf Oak Tree At Santa Anita Five Furlongs 1.02:20
Misremembered Dirt Mile/Classic Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.11:80
Much Obliged F & M Turf Woodbine Four Furlongs 48:00 View Workouts
Proviso (GB) Ladies Classic Hollywood Park Four Furlongs 49:60
Pulsion Juvenile Oak Tree At Santa Anita Six Furlongs 1.15:40
Silver Timber Turf Sprint Keeneland Four Furlongs 48:60
Ventura *Mile Hollywood Park Six Furlongs 1.12:20

McPEEK SHOVING CONNIE AND MICHAEL INTO BC JUVY FILLY PICTURE...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108283.html

Already expected to have a chance to win the $2 million Juvenile Fillies with Beautician, trainer Ken McPeek hopes to increase his chances if he can get Connie and Michael into the race as well. Connie and Michael was an impressive 7 3/4-length maiden winner last Saturday at Keeneland, running seven furlongs in 1:22.74 while hardly being asked by Kent Desormeaux. She earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 95. She was the 5-2 favorite in a field of 12.

"She's trained like a good horse from the beginning," McPeek said. "She acts like she could be a good thing. I'm reluctant to run against myself, but it's probably the right thing to do. I think we got a good shot to win this with one or the other."

McPeek did say that Robby Albarado would ride Beautician in the Juvenile Fillies. Albarado guided Beautician to a maiden win at Churchill, while Desormeaux has ridden her in her last three starts. Desormeaux would ride Connie and Michael if she gets into the race.

[]LEADING 3-YEAR-OLD ECLIPSE CANDIDATE SUMMER BIRD DRILLS FIVE FURLONGS; DESORMEAUX FLYS IN FROM NEW YORK FOR DRILL; TRAINER ICE “SUPER HAPPY”

“The work was great,” trainer Tim Ice said after Summer Bird’s drill. “This was exactly what we wanted. He looked super getting over the track and he’s been getting over it very well ever since we got here. Kent had a ton of horse under him and he just let him work on his own, within himself. I’m super-happy with how he’s trained here and how he’s handled everything. We’ll walk tomorrow and he’ll go back to the track Tuesday morning.”
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This sounds very reminescent of what Ice said before the Belmont and the Travers. If he runs well he has more than made a strong case for HOY.

This sounds very reminescent of what Ice said before the Belmont and the Travers. If he runs well he should be HOY.[/quote]

So now he doesn't even have to win to be HOY?

NT

So now he doesn't even have to win to be HOY?

NT[/quote]

If he runs well and wins.

BTW Nick, on another note what is your general feeling of Rachel of not having run since the 1st week of Sept, you think that's going to hurt her if Summer Bird does win and runs well, that may be fresher in people's minds. Is this possible in your opinion?

If he runs well and wins.

BTW Nick, on another note what is your general feeling of Rachel of not having run since the 1st week of Sept, you think that's going to hurt her if Summer Bird does win and runs well, that may be fresher in people's minds. Is this possible in your opinion?[/quote]

I think she's going to be very tough to beat in the HOY race. I knew that you probably meant SB needs to win.

I'm not the biggest Summer Bird fan around but I'd love to see him beat Zenyatta.

NT

I think she's going to be very tough to beat in the HOY race. I knew that you probably meant SB needs to win.

I'm not the biggest Summer Bird fan around but I'd love to see him beat Zenyatta.

NT[/quote]

I know people will look at my comments with a grain of salt since I made my bed with Summer Bird a long time ago but I admire more a horse that has run for the entire season (Mar - Nov) that is still banging out races and trying to earn the honor for HOY, there is just something commendable about that IMO. RA would be a deserving horse for HOY any year, but I find her connections stopping in the 1st week of Sept somewhat presumptious and they are taking somewhat of a leap if they think HOY is locked up. If they had decided to run in the JCGC I would say they would have more than deserved HOY if she would have won, but as it stands I think they left the door wide open for someone to step on through that door snatching HOY right under their noses by simply taking the position of competing against the best competition and by going all the way till the end of the season.

Anyone know how Girolamo looked in his work yesterday? I hate the idea that he's even out there - I would much prefer that he be pointed towards the Cigar Mile - but I guess they insist on pushing forward with him unless he dislikes the synthetic. Thanks!

Add Lilly Langtry (AOB)...

$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic

Awesome Gem (Dollase) [1]
Colonel John (Harty) [1]
Einstein (Pitts-Blasi)
Girolamo (bin Suroor) [1]
Gio Ponti (Clement)
Mine That Bird (Woolley)
Quality Road (Pletcher) [1]
Regal Ransom (bin Suroor) [1]
Richard's Kid (Baffert)
Rip Van Winkle (O'Brien)
Summer Bird (Ice) [1]
Twice Over (Cecil)
Zenyatta (Shirreffs) [1]
Bullsbay (Motion) [2]
Chocolate Candy (Hollendorfer) [2]
Mastercraftsman [2]


$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf

Allegre (Chambers)
Conduit (Stoute)
Dar Re Mi (Gosden) [1]
Monzante (Mitchell) [1]
Precious Passion (Hartman)
Red Rocks (Meehan)
Spanish Moon (Stoute)
Telling (Hobby)
Summer Bird (Ice) [2]


$2 million TVG Breeders' Cup Mile

Courageous Cat (Mott)
Court Vision (Dutrow)
Cowboy Cal (Pletcher)
Delegator (Meehan)
Ferneley (Cecil)
Gladitorius (bin Shafya)
Goldikova (Head)
Justenuffhumor (McLaughlin)
Karelian (Arnold)
Mr. Sidney (Mott) [1]
Whatsthescript (Sadler)
Zacinto (Stoute)
Awesome Gem (Dollase) [2]
Colonel John (Harty) [2]


$2 million Sentient Jet Breeders' Cup Sprint

Capt. Candyman Can (Wilkes)
Cost of Freedom (Sadler)
Crown of Thorns (Mandella) [2]
Dancing in Silks (Gaines) [1]
Fatal Bullet (Baker)
Fleeting Spirit (Noseda) [1]
Gayego (bin Suroor)
Join in the Dance (Pletcher) [1]
Kodiak Kowboy (Asmussen)
Square Eddie (O'Neill) [2]
Zensational (Baffert)


$2 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile

Aikenite (Pletcher)
Alfred Nobel (O'Brien) [1]
Aspire (Kenneally)
Awesome Act (Noseda) [2]
Beethoven (O'Brien) [1]
Buzzword (bin Suroor) [2]
Dave in Dixie (Sadler)
D' Funnybone (R. Dutrow)
Eskendereya (Pletcher) [1]
Fist of Rage (McPeek) [1]
Gallant Gent (C. Lewis)
Lookin at Lucky (Baffert)
Mint Chip (Arnold)
Noble's Promise (McPeek)
Piscatelli (Sacco)
Pounced (Gosden)
Pulsion (Biancone)
Radiohead (Meehan) [1]
Vale of York (bin Suroor) [1]
William's Kitten (Maker)


$1 million Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile

Bullsbay (Motion) [1]
Cherokee Artist (Motion)
Chocolate Candy (Hollendorfer) [1]
Cowboy Cal (Pletcher) [2]
Crown of Thorns (Mandella) [1]
El Gato Malo (Dollase) [2]
Furthest Land (Maker)
Girolamo (bin Suroor) [2]
Join in the Dance (Pletcher) [2]
Karelian (Arnold) [2]
Mambo Meister (Gleaves)
Mastercraftsman (O'Brien) [1]
Midshipman (bin Suroor)
Mr. Sidney (Mott) [2]
Monzante (Mitchell) [2]
Pyro (bin Suroor)
Quality Road (Pletcher) [2]
Ready's Echo (Pletcher)
Regal Ransom (bin Suroor) [2]
Sweet Hearth (de Royer-Dupre) [1]


$1 million Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf

Awesome Act (Noseda) [1]
Becky's Kitten (Ward)
Bridgetown (McPeek)
Buzzword (bin Suroor)
Codoy (Hubley)
Dean's Kitten (Maker)
Eskendereya (Pletcher) [2]
Fist of Rage (McPeek) [2]
Gallant Gent (C. Lewis)
Interactif (Pletcher)
Kera's Kitten (Maker)
King Ledley (Prendergast)
Mint Chip (Arnold)
Oasis Dancer (Beckett)
Pounced (Gosden)
Raging Wit (Mott)
Summer Movie (Sherman)
Vale of York (bin Suroor) [2]
Viscount Nelson (O'Brien)
Zip Quik (Biancone)


$1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint

California Flag (Koriner)
Canadian Ballet (Rice)
Cannonball (Ward/Dominguez)
Cherokee Hweavan (Jones)
Dancing in Silks (Gaines) [2]
Delta Storm (Mitchell)
Desert Code (Hofmans)
Diamondrella (Penna)
El Gato Malo (Dollase) [1]
Fleeting Spirit (Noseda) [2]
Game Face (Pletcher) [2]
Get Funky (Sadler)
Gotta Have Her (Sahadi)
Lethal Heat (Abrams) [1]
Lord Shanakill (Jarvis)
Noble Court (Sadler)
Only Green (Head) [1]
Silver Timber (C. Brown)
Square Eddie (O'Neill) [1]
Strike the Deal (Noseda)
Tenga Cat (Ellis)
Yankee Injunuity (McMullen)


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$2 million Breeders' Cup Distaff

Careless Jewel (J. Carroll)
Cocoa Beach (bin Suroor)
Life is Sweet (Shirreffs)
Mushka (Mott)
Music Note (bin Suroor)
Proviso (Frankel)
Rainbow View (Gosden) [1]
Zenyatta (Shirreffs) [2]
Lethal Heat (Abrams) [2]


$2 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf

Dar Re Mi (Gosden) [2]
Dynaforce (Mott)
Forever Together (Sheppard)
Magical Fantasy (Gallagher)
Maram (C. Brown)
Midday (Cecil)
Pure Clan (Holthus)
Rainbow View (Gosden) [2]
Rutheriene (Clement)
Visit (Frankel)


$2 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies

Always a Princess (Baffert)
Beautician (McPeek)
Bickersons (Breen)
Biofuel (Baker)
Blind Luck (Hollendorfer)
Champagne d'Oro (Guillot) [1]
Connie and Michael (McPeek) [1]
Devil May Care (Pletcher)
Ms. Vananenzza (Vasquez)
Negligee (Terranova)
She Be Wild (Catalano)
Zilva (Motion) [2]


$1 million Sentient Jet Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Sprint

Allicansayiswow (Biancone)
Evita Argentina (Sadler)
Free Flying Soul (Headley)
Game Face (Pletcher) [1]
Informed Decision (Sheppard)
Only Green (Head)
Sara Louise (bin Suroor)
Seventh Street (bin Suroor)
Silver Swallow (Headley)
Sweet Hearth (de Royer-Dupre) [2]
Ventura (Frankel)


$1 million Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf

Champagne d'Oro (Guillot) [2]
Connie and Michael (McPeek) [2]
Dad's Crazy (Pletcher)
Elusive Galaxy (Lyons)
Hatheer (McLaughlin)
House of Grace (McPeek)
In the Slips (Cole)
Jungletale (Asmussen)
Junia Tepzia (Schiergen/Fallon)
La Nez (Kruljac)
Lillie Langtry (O'Brien)
Lisa's Kitten (Maker)
Potosina (Shuman)
Rose Catherine (Pletcher)
Smart Seattle (Motion)
Tapitsfly (Romans)
You'll Be Mine (O'Brien)
Zilva (Motion) [1]


$500,000 Breeders' Cup Marathon

Black Astor (L. Lewis)
Cloudy's Knight (Sheppard)
Eldaafer (Alvarado)
Father Time (Cecil)
Gangbuster (K. Desormeaux)
Man of Iron (O'Brien)
Mastery (bin Suroor)
Muhannak (Beckett)
Nite Light (Pletcher)
On Fire (Abrams)
Sir Dave (Carava)

So excited to bet him if he lands here when they take final entries.

So how long before a brother can get some free PPs from Brisnet for these?

I have a fundamental belief right or wrong I will sink or swim with... but I firmly believe European trainers are better at getting their horses fit for stamina type of races, a marathon over there is 2 miles + hard to believe but 1 3/4 might be a cut back for some horses over there.

While your theory may work in general, I think it has no bearing on any conversation involving Jonathan Sheppard, whose training style is as stamina-oriented as anyone's.

I think breeding has more to do with the distance limitations than the trainer.

Yeah he's the exception, he's a Brit so he's got that type of mentality.

Probably you need a little of both, one guy I do like in NA marathon races is Mike Mitchell, he seems to do well. However I am not sure if that is more juice related or training. He has had his share of good distance horses thru the yrs.