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NTamm1215 10-03-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I've repeatedly tried to make my case here, to no avail. You guys just don't get it. What has happened in my use of these charts is that I've MODELED races --- specifically race types. These models are every bit as good as speed or pace figures (which are also models). It's just a different way of looking at races.

When some of you set aside your figure centric methods, you might just get what I'm doing. Till then, it makes no sense for me to discuss races (setups) here.

So it makes no sense for you to discuss setups or races here because you were right about one race?

I hope you make a fortune at the races, dude, cause you talk a f.ucking huge game.

NT

the_fat_man 10-03-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So it makes no sense for you to discuss setups or races here because you were right about one race?

I hope you make a fortune at the races, dude, cause you talk a f.ucking huge game.

NT

You know what, Nick? I was also right about Rail Trip and a bunch of others with you, including Straight Story. Remember him? He's the one that was one of the best 3 year old turf horses per Serling (who also thought that KK had no shot today). And you couldn't get it that Battle of Hastings was just better -- cause you're just a better tripper.:rolleyes: How many times do I need to stick it in your ass before you get it, Doofus? You're like the CSC idiot. Your tripping skills leave a lot to be desired. How's that? I'm done trying to educate you.

In the meantime, keep at the status quo.

jms62 10-03-2009 03:22 PM

I see a potential handicapping Octogon match brewing here.

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
I see a potential handicapping Octogon match brewing here.

I'm settling in with a can of soda and some popcorn myself.

NTamm1215 10-03-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
You know what, Nick? I was also right about Rail Trip and a bunch of others with you, including Straight Story. Remember him? He's the one that was one of the best 3 year old turf horses per Serling (who also thought that KK had no shot today). And you couldn't get it that Battle of Hastings was just better -- cause you're just a better tripper.:rolleyes: How many times do I need to stick it in your ass before you get it, Doofus? You're like the CSC idioit. Your tripping skills leave a lot to be desired. How's that? I'm done trying to educate you.

In the meantime, keep at the status quo.

So me being wrong about Battle of Hastings and Kodiak Kowboy is not only emblematic of you being a better handicapper, you having a superior method for analyzing races and you sticking it in my ass?

The thing is, I'm certain there are better handicappers out there then me and I came on here to admit I was wrong and commented on both you and Gander being right about Kodiak Kowboy today. You chose to stroke yourself and basically s.hit on anyone here who has a different opinion. I come on here to discuss racing and don't ever mince words about my opinions. Am I wrong sometimes, absolutely, who isn't? But no matter what, I'm not ever going to chastise people or tell them they're beneath me because I was right and they were wrong.

NT

randallscott35 10-03-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I dare not doubt him. And slop will be the topping.

Mmmm mmmm good. Now if only Asiatic Boy can win for me.

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 03:49 PM

It's been a rough year for weather on big race days... Kentucky Derby was sloppy, Louisiana Derby, Haskell, Travers, JCGC... odd.

jms62 10-03-2009 03:56 PM

I'm not a betting man mind you ;) but I think my money goes on the Fat_Man if they enter the Octogon.

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
I'm not a betting man mind you ;) but I think my money goes on the Fat_Man if they enter the Octogon.

I know ntamm1215 personally, he's a good friend of mine, a class act and a better handicapper. So I will defer my opinions as they're obviously biased...

jms62 10-03-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I know ntamm1215 personally, he's a good friend of mine, a class act and a better handicapper. So I will defer my opinions as they're obviously biased...

I don't know him but he said I was a chronic complainer for complaining about the horrible field sizes today. By his reaction I assume he is in the industry;)

ateamstupid 10-03-2009 04:12 PM

Lmfaaaaaooooooooo

jms62 10-03-2009 04:12 PM

:eek:

my miss storm cat 10-03-2009 04:13 PM

Oh my God that was great!!! :eek: :D :tro:

Sightseek 10-03-2009 04:14 PM

ha, ha!

freddymo 10-03-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Oh my God that was great!!! :eek: :D :tro:

So SICK

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
I don't know him but he said I was a chronic complainer for complaining about the horrible field sizes today. By his reaction I assume he is in the industry;)

If you define industry by polishing my shoes and feeding my dog before big race days, then yes, he is.

jms62 10-03-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
There is a lot of irony in a thread that combines people complaining about small fields on Saturday at Belmont while at the same time, others ( myself included) are complaining about why a horse like Interpertation is running SAturday in a GR1 at Belmont.

Classic thats why they line em up....

my miss storm cat 10-03-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
So SICK

Haha why is it sick?

Sorry but I've been a fan of his forever. No way would I have played him here - not in a million years - but I'm very happy he did it and thrilled for his connections.

GPK 10-03-2009 04:17 PM

Wow...serious crow eating time. I was wrong. Congrats to the Mr. Mavorah and Bobby Barbara.

freddymo 10-03-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Haha why is it sick?

Sorry but I've been a fan of his forever. No way would I have played him here - not in a million years - but I'm very happy he did it and thrilled for his connections.

Its a long story

jms62 10-03-2009 04:18 PM

From a chronic complainer... I like the way the industry is delaying these post times so we can see all the graded stakes today. Or maybe it is simply a random occurrence

my miss storm cat 10-03-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Its a long story

Okay... I just didn't get your comment. As an aside I have not read through this entire thread (yet) so am not slamming anyone here if I've missed something.

Still laughing though... what an awesome race!

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
From a chronic complainer... I like the way the industry is delaying these post times so we can see all the graded stakes today. Or maybe it is simply a random occurrence

I agree, but more difficult is defining "the industry."

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 04:52 PM

Two very good 3-year-olds... Summer Bird a notch better than Quality Road at 10 furlongs, but both are talented.

philcski 10-03-2009 04:53 PM

Summer Bird is awesome. How could anyone not like this horse??? 8 career starts, and he's won the three biggest races in NY. That's near impossible.

jms62 10-03-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Summer Bird is awesome. How could anyone not like this horse??? 8 career starts, and he's won the three biggest races in NY. That's near impossible.

He just keeps getting it done. I was planning on tossing all todays horses Breeders cup day but Summer Bird always gets the job done so I'll revisit that.

NTamm1215 10-03-2009 04:59 PM

Great race and performance by Summer Bird and a good race from Quality Road as well.

How about someone being alive to ALL in the Pick 6? Hope it was either Interpatation's owner or trainer!

NT

freddymo 10-03-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Summer Bird is awesome. How could anyone not like this horse??? 8 career starts, and he's won the three biggest races in NY. That's near impossible.

Could win the Belmont, Travers, JCGC, BC Classic, and will not be horse of year!

Travis Stone 10-03-2009 05:06 PM

Summer Bird won today and he deserves credit. But Quality Road - for all the detractors and naysayers - ran huge. 10 furlongs is a tad too far for him, and that's okay. He broke outside, prompted the pace while rank, took over, and held Summer Bird at bay from the half-mile pole to just past mid-stretch. It's not like he was dusted a gave-up.

He's my early pick for the Cigar Mile.

freddymo 10-03-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Summer Bird won today and he deserves credit. But Quality Road - for all the detractors and naysayers - ran huge. 10 furlongs is a tad too far for him, and that's okay. He broke outside, prompted the pace while rank, took over, and held Summer Bird at bay from the half-mile pole to just past mid-stretch. It's not like he was dusted a gave-up.

He's my early pick for the Cigar Mile.

A one turn mile could be Munnings best distance

randallscott35 10-03-2009 05:13 PM

That will be the first and only time I bet Asiatic Boy....Yuck.

RockHardTen1985 10-03-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
A one turn mile could be Munnings best distance

Munnings needs a dry track.

my miss storm cat 10-03-2009 05:27 PM

I hadn't realized this and thought it was cool. :)

http://drf.com/news/article/107812.html

Interpatation, whose last two wins had come in back-to-back renewals of the Larry R. Riviello Presidents Cup at Philadelphia Park in 2006-07, finished fourth at 28-1 in the 2006 Turf Classic, third at 19-1 two years ago, and was second at 16-1 last year.

Beautiful win by Summer Bird.

GBBob 10-03-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Wow...serious crow eating time. I was wrong. Congrats to the Mr. Mavorah and Bobby Barbara.

I am waiting for my serving. Watched in disbelief for a lot of reasons. Congrats and well deserved.

Andy, Freddy...what can I say..

philcski 10-03-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Great race and performance by Summer Bird and a good race from Quality Road as well.

How about someone being alive to ALL in the Pick 6? Hope it was either Interpatation's owner or trainer!

NT

They took the 11th off the grass after the pick 6 started, so if you had the first 5... you're a winner! Since it paid $190k someone had a single to the last leg (presumably on the 13 who was 6/5.) Otherwise it was definitely going to be a carryover.

Left Bank 10-03-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
They took the 11th off the grass after the pick 6 started, so if you had the first 5... you're a winner! Since it paid $190k someone had a single to the last leg (presumably on the 13 who was 6/5.) Otherwise it was definitely going to be a carryover.

They hit the "ALL" button.

ateamstupid 10-03-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
They hit the "ALL" button.

How do you know?

philcski 10-03-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
They hit the "ALL" button.

wrong

they probably hit the "ALL" button in the Hirsch but not in the last leg.

Left Bank 10-03-2009 05:54 PM

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...00309USA11.pdf
That is what the chart says.

CSC 10-03-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
You know what, Nick? I was also right about Rail Trip and a bunch of others with you, including Straight Story. Remember him? He's the one that was one of the best 3 year old turf horses per Serling (who also thought that KK had no shot today). And you couldn't get it that Battle of Hastings was just better -- cause you're just a better tripper.:rolleyes: How many times do I need to stick it in your ass before you get it, Doofus? You're like the CSC idiot. Your tripping skills leave a lot to be desired. How's that? I'm done trying to educate you.

In the meantime, keep at the status quo.

LMAO. :D :rolleyes: :zz: I am now complete.


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