[quote=Riot]Not denying the numbers, just making an observation...

[quote=Riot]If you're honest, Clinton had a "paper" surplus, largely due to his raping of the military and intelligence budgets!

http://thehill.com/dick-morris/obama...009-06-09.html


According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39. Scott Rasmussen notes that “this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue.” Last month, he had the Democrats holding a one-point lead, but they lost it in June’s polling.

Guess all that whining is paying off?

http://thehill.com/a.b.-stoddard/not...009-06-10.html


Only $44 million of the program’s unprecedented $787 billion has been spent, which amounts to a shabby 5 percent. An analysis of stimulus spending by The Associated Press found the money going to the most economically comfortable parts of the country, instead of the least. The study, published in April, concluded that “no matter how the early money is measured, communities suffering most fare the worst.”

And then there were those new Gallup poll numbers showing Americans are increasingly concerned about the new administration’s deficit spending. Majorities now disapprove of Obama’s handling of the federal budget deficit and federal spending.

[quote=timmgirvan]Yes, a "paper" surplus, while Bush created a massive "paper" deficit.

Your point?

Yes, the vast majority of the money hasn't been used yet. Better tell Palin to take that stimulus money, and not turn it down ;)

BTW, ask Mitch McConnell what he did with Kentucky's stimulus money?

Then don't wonder why we don't get slot machine gambling in KY.

Make a new exhibit in the Creation Museum?

We'll see. You'll have to look up the current Rasmussen numbers on "total number of people who call themselves Republicans" to see that ;)

LOL - New exhibit? Never a need. Evolution doesn't exist :rolleyes:

Figured at least there could be an exhibit about how the Bible 100% accurately predicts that Obama is the anti-christ and the rapture is going to happen now that Obama is the president.

And anyone who has ever read the Bible knows this is going to happen because Revelations says so.

We are already "seeing" based on the poll numbers.

Hey, forgot about that - good idea!

Wouldn't trust a con to handle my electric bill. lol

Yes the money hasn't been used yet. Why? Political reasons.
You do understand that much of that "stimlus" money is going to put the states in very poor financial shape after those temporary funds run out yet the political mandates involved are made permanent? You do realize that many states are being given money to use in areas that they dont need? You do understand that they arent able to use it where they want to?

Didnt know they made the homeless pay electric bills....

LOL this may come back to bite ya in the butt if the Dems pass the cap & trade..

um remember he made 1.4 trillion lately in the S&P!?!?!

You do understand that some states - like ours - are trying to cheat and get and use that stimulus money for what it is not intended for?

Yeah - you want the money, here is what you can use it for. So sorry there are rules.

oops for you...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Co...cal-Group.aspx

more people identify themselves as Conservatives....

Don't you have another load of laundry to do, Anticrust32? lol

The rules are not in the state best interests. You do realize that the states are on the hook when the govt money expires? Where will that extra revenue come from? It would be like me signing you up for an expensive club that you dont want to belong to and paying for 2 years dues for you. Yet the contract states that YOU must continue to pay the dues after that and the prices will go up regardless of your needs or desires.

Tim Floyd is first, Carroll is next...Dirty program, dirty fans...

"Oops for me" what? I like conservatives! You might notice that the numbers for conservatives have always been high. You might notice what happens to all the numbers right after the election of any party.

The part of the headline you are ignoring is one of the main reasons the GOP lost this past election, and why the GOP will keep losing elections, as it's associated with age demographics:

Not this part: “Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group -

But this part: "Percentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90s"

[quote=Cannon Shell]The rules are not in the state best interests.QUOTE]

Not when the state has zero interest in using the money for any "economic stimulus", and wants to use it pay down their previously acquired debt, etc.

Yes, having rules about what states can do with received stimulus money stinks! It should just be free pork!

[quote=Riot]Oh boy. You think this wont be more beneficial to the state economically than more social spending?

Pork isnt used to paydown the states debt.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ssional_ballot

Voters not affiliated with either party now favor Republicans by a 38% to 21% margin.

I'm actually VERY embarrassed that our alma mater and the great Jim Livingood or whatever (or AD head) actually wanted Tim Floyd to coach the Cats.

Its very very embarrassing. Thank GOD he said no!

That was a close call

[quote=Cannon Shell]Oh boy. You think the taxpayer's money - our money, money that you have whined about Obama spending since the stimulus package idea was instituted - should just be handed out to states to spend as they wish, with zero control or accountability, assuming that whatever the states decide to do will stimulate the economy? :D

Yes, I know what pork is used for. That is precisely why I used the term.

Actually part of the reason the stimulus isn't creating jobs like it should be is that Congress attached too many restrictions to it. For instance the money was intended to only be used to create jobs and not to replace jobs. So to try and get that result Congress put a restriction that none of the money could be used to create jobs at any company that laid people off. Well guess what, everyone has had layoffs by now so the stimulus money is just sitting in state coffers right now while the states try and figure out how they can spend it with all the restrictions placed on it by Congress.

Not as a general "love" thing :D

The independents questioned involved asking them about their Congressional ballot voting preferences only, and "Support for Democrats is up two points from last week, while support for the GOP is up three points. Support for the GOP is just one point below its highest level found over the past year. Last week’s results for the Democrats tied the lowest level of support for the party during the same period. "

The highest level for the GOP last year was pretty terrible, and it's still below that. The election results played that out.

Now, people, after overwhelmingly "throwing the bums out", and selecting an overwhelmingly Democratic congress, and it seems the independents polled want to get more GOP back into the Congress. I go for that, too. We'll see what happens in a couple years.

That's right. The States want that stimulus money, they have to play by the rules they, themselves, via their own Congressmen, voted in.

Not exactly a surprise, it was much-discussed at the time.

[quote=Riot]Why not? The federal govt has zero control or accountability, why should the states be any different?

If pork money had been used to pay down debt in states, they wouldnt need pork. Why do you insist that the stimulus money is going to actually stimulate the economy when it most certainly wont

The Federal money given to the state is almost entirely used for social programs or for unnecessary short term projects that are hardly crucial. Think CA wouldnt be better off using their stimulus money paying down its debt ?

Paying down states debt would be far more beneficial for the states population as a whole but it isnt sexy, it doesnt win the votes of the socially needy and the Federal govt wouldnt get much credit.

And it was wrong then as it is now. If i remember correctly there were three GOP members that voted for this? So if it is screwed up, you know where the blame lies.

i just read this about palin:


Palin may even have been aware of a Gallup poll released last week showing that she attracted less than 1 percent of Republicans who were asked to name the "main person who speaks for the Republican Party today."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-06-16.html

Just wanted to make sure Riot saw this...

Alternate ideas!! Lets see how much mainstream coverage it gets...

at the very end of a 5 min PR speech promoting the OB plan the newscaster will say something like "and the GOP released their healthcare plan today. Democrats say it falls woefully short of what is needed" and that will be that

Or the Dems will say "we won" or they'll say "look at how the Bush tax cuts worked"

[quote=Antitrust32]Or the Dems will say "we won" or they'll say "look at how the Bush tax cuts worked"[/QUOTE]

in and of themselves they worked , the treasury took in more $$ when the cuts were enacted , GWB had trouble on the other side of the balance sheet, but , he got the revenue side right

Interesting. who did they have as number 1?