And, reactions to Obama's speech today are .... ??

The best compliment he can get from the conservatives on here is silence.

I think Republicans had better get used to the idea of 8 years of Obama. All indications from economists on both sides of the political spectrum are we will be emerging from the recession in the 4th quarter of 2009 or 1st quarter of 2010. With the general lag of unemployment related to the end of a recession things should start blossoming again just in time for 2012. Any rising Republican star at that point would be far better served to wait until 2016 since Obama will get credit for taking us out of the recession whether or not his policies had anything to do with it and will almost certainly win re-election.

if we listen to them we will be busto , no one can tell where we will be 1yr from now , let alone 2 or 3 , these are all subjective opinions with imperfect imputs

knowing what we know now , don't you think hillary should have run in '04 ?
i mean a stiff almost won , she has shown to be better than him and GW was beatable in '04 , bubba and hill overthought and got bit by the rising star from chicago ....... whether or not the star is still shining in 3 yrs is anyone's guess

Especially after Muslims gave him the standing O, and terrorists spouted hate against him.

I'm counting on a few moans over Obama quoting the Quran, and at least one "I still think he's secretly a Muslim terrorist" thing again .... :rolleyes:

:{>: We will see. Im wondering if I will be conservative by then.:zz:

"pickle kisser" has found a permanent place in my personal lexicon. Thank you forever!

uhhhhhh...

He read from a telepromter?

Certainly the Republican side can come up
with something. If not, I will play the role.

who invented the pen?

who invented spires and arches?

should have gone to public schools I guess cause we we're taught the Romans had spires and arches and Guttenburg invented the pen? Of course I guess it could have been Muhamad Guttenburg but I'm not sure anymore?

Sir Chas Barkley/Fitty Cent

Condi Sec of State and Powell guest judge on Dancing with the Stars

alrighty then...

Wait till Obama runs up against the Israeli card.
Wait till he tries to make peace with the Muslim
world with Benjamin Netanyahu hanging on him.
Nothing has actually been accomplished yet.

Except we keep using predator drones to take
out extremists along with innocent civilians in
Pakistan. Just like GW. He is following the GW
game plan, cept GW did all the dirty work.

w/o the BS and a illegal aunt he disowned

and this was a worthless thread?
LMAO

You never know the twists and turns
these threads take.

What has Obama actually done differently than
the Bush administration from a foreign policy point
of view? He has SAID we will not be arrogant and
we will talk with all parties.

Basically nothing
has changed in Iraq, except that the Demo's
still will not admit the surge and subsequent
letting the Iraqis handle it has worked.

And we are going to get more intrusive in
Afghanistan and Pakistan.

So what exactly is diff? We got the same
director of the FBI, and Robert Gates stays.
The world is going to start asking this question
when we meet reality. When something actually
has to be done. Talk is cheap.

Heck, we are actually on worse terms with N.Korea.

That's all fine and dandy until gas goes over $3.25 a gallon. Getting close.

Didn't it go over $4.00 forever under Bush?

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sure it was alwyas 4.00 under bush the entire 8 yrs , yup another dem who is never wrong:eek: :eek:

And isn't it odd that gas started to spike right around the time the dumbocrats got control of congress?

Both sides are wrong to play the gas card...I think oil costs are determined by people who could really care less whether a DEm or Repub is in office.

Why can't we just blame the failed Bush/Cheney economic policies, Bush's Texas oil cronies and Halliburton :rolleyes:

that would be too easy no?

WelL..I can blame them for a lot, but gas prices isn't one of them..

Doesn't it scare you when you are the voice of reason - I know it scares the sh^t out of me ;) :wf

I'm having a bad day

Most voters are stupid. Gas prices are usually blamed on the President. It's the nature of the beast.

bob - after 9/11 , did the administration do a good job on preventing attacks or do you think al qaeda made their hit on 9/11 and just decided that was all they wanted to do so there was nothing to prevent

yup

Most Americans are stupid. That's why so many of them watch American Idol.

It would be a better America if more people watched The CW.....

REAPER ++++

Love that show. Ray Wise (Twin Peaks) is terrific as the Devil. I don't think they are bringing it back. Kinda sucked the way they ended that last episode. Maybe a TNT, FX or TBS will pick it up and they can cuss. That would be cool!

Bummer..I know...but hell we still have Gossip Girl and 90210 :D :rolleyes:

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/arti...ems+convenient

I ask again... WHO CARES!?!?!?!?

If he worshiped worms n' bugs, so as long as it didn't interfere with his positions/policies, why does it matter?

Why do people care so much about religion in this country?

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I ask again... WHO CARES!?!?!?!?

If he worshiped worms n' bugs, so as long as it didn't interfere with his positions/policies, why does it matter?

Why do people care so much about religion in this country?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure they do? He was elected President by a majority of the country. All I ask for is consistency. He can't have it both ways. And had he told his audience in Cairo of his acceptence of Jesus instead of making up who invented the pen and his family's Islamic background you would have witnessed a country who cares far more about religion than we can ever imagine.

By the way I'd never vote for anyone who worshipped worms and bugs even if they were the most conservative repulican in history. But that's just me.

Especially in politicians who are probably the least likely group to have any real religious conviction. Knock his policy because lord knows there is plenty to knock. But his being or not being a Muslim doesnt and shouldnt really matter.

If the Republican Party took the above to heart,
they could win some elections again after the 8
year mess (really a 6 year mess imo). The Democrats turn to
run the country in a very difficult economy.

People say "8 yr mess".......in reality it's a less than a 2yr mess.....'06 and 1/2
was when it started south! the Dems contributed the latest boondoggles with the coronation of the One!

The Republican party has to be willing to step back up and dampen down the extreme, ultra-conservative far-right zealot wing of the party (about 24% of registered GOP voters) - not continue to let them run the show and be the public face of the party. While chasing the other 75% of the GOP away.

The GOP courted this group heavily in order to win the past two elections, and now the GOP is left dealing with the fallout of giving them a voice. This group of GOP members sabotaged McCain's campaign and ensured his non-election just by showing up at GOP rallies and speaking.

After watching the GOP elite cowtow to Rush Limbaugh, however, earlier in the year, I'll be surprised if that happens between now and 2012. But one can always hope. I think we just have to let this part of the party literally die out. The age demographics of the entire country are working against this segment of the GOP, and in favor of the Democrats, over the next 20 years.

There are plenty of young Republicans less than age 40, let them come up and be the new face of the party, drag the party into this century. Maybe the GOP can be a viable political force again in 2020.

Thank god we have finally elected an intelligent and highly educated President, who can speak on a world stage, and start to regain the respect America has lost in the world. A President with a sophisticated world view.

keep drinking the kool-aid

LOL - that's what my own eyes tell me, and what is proving out :tro: No kool-aid taken here.