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SCUDSBROTHER 04-12-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Fried Chicken with Fuzzy and Tiger

OMG...He has to sit there in front of people and eat(after that bad of a choke?):eek::wf :wf

CSC 04-13-2009 08:12 AM

That was painful to watch, quite a let down after some great Sunday drama, The Masters was lost, not won in the end.

declansharbor 04-13-2009 12:45 PM

My 5 Master's observations:

1) Cabrera's short game is SWEET. How he recovered from his tee shot in the playoff hole was nothing short of special.
2) Shingo Kat got game. Became a fan of his over the weekend.
3) How did Phil miss that eagle putt on 15? (sunday)
4) If Tiger had a few more shots go his way on thurs and fri, Sunday could've been something even crazier.
5) A. Kim's 11 birdies on friday (65) was something else. Could've catapulted him even more if he didnt bogey twice in the round and double bogey on the 10th.

GBBob 04-13-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
My 5 Master's observations:

1) Cabrera's short game is SWEET. How he recovered from his tee shot in the playoff hole was nothing short of special.
2) Shingo Kat got game. Became a fan of his over the weekend.
3) How did Phil miss that eagle putt on 15? (sunday)
4) If Tiger had a few more shots go his way on thurs and fri, Sunday could've been something even crazier.
5) A. Kim's 11 birdies on friday (65) was something else. Could've catapulted him even more if he didnt bogey twice in the round and double bogey on the 10th.

If everyone played at the pace Cabrera does, all rounds would be 3:15 min.

CSC 04-13-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
My 5 Master's observations:

1) Cabrera's short game is SWEET. How he recovered from his tee shot in the playoff hole was nothing short of special.
2) Shingo Kat got game. Became a fan of his over the weekend.
3) How did Phil miss that eagle putt on 15? (sunday)
4) If Tiger had a few more shots go his way on thurs and fri, Sunday could've been something even crazier.
5) A. Kim's 11 birdies on friday (65) was something else. Could've catapulted him even more if he didnt bogey twice in the round and double bogey on the 10th.

Tiger's definitely not all the way back yet, which is scary when he does get back to 100% or close to it.

My favorite Masters moment was Phil's face on 12 after he hit it in the water. Obviously he is not a favorite of mine, but I will say he is sure fun to watch on the golfcourse.

gales0678 04-13-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Tiger's definitely not all the way back yet, which is scary when he does get back to 100% or close to it.

My favorite Masters monent was Phil's face on 12 after he hit it in the water. Obviously he is not a favorite of mine, but I will say he is sure fun to watch on the golfcourse.

the guy's won't appreciate his comment either about his band aid swing and how he almost won the tournament

when angel beat him at the us open a couple of years ago he had every opportunity to beat him that day without a band aid swing or knee issue and couldn't get by him then , why should we believe it would have been any different yesterday?

Antitrust32 04-13-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
the guy's won't appreciate his comment either about his band aid swing and how he almost won the tournament

when angel beat him at the us open a couple of years ago he had every opportunity to beat him that day without a band aid swing or knee issue and couldn't get by him then , why should we believe it would have been any different yesterday?


:rolleyes:

GPK 04-13-2009 05:18 PM

Once a crybaby, always a crybaby:rolleyes:

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2009...al-course.html

GPK 04-13-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
the guy's won't appreciate his comment either about his band aid swing and how he almost won the tournament

when angel beat him at the us open a couple of years ago he had every opportunity to beat him that day without a band aid swing or knee issue and couldn't get by him then , why should we believe it would have been any different yesterday?

I'm pretty sure Angel will feel comfortable talking sh*t to Tiger when he wins 12 more majors

brockguy 04-13-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Once a crybaby, always a crybaby:rolleyes:

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2009...al-course.html


Brilliant.

This weekend was brilliant for golf I thought - loads in with chances, Phil, Tiger etc stalking from behind making moves, young guys like Kim and McIlroy showing glimpses of how good they can become, old guys like Perry (and to a lesser extent Sandy Lyle and Larry Mize on Day 1) showing they still have got game.. It's hard not to like Cabrera though, well done big man! Muy Bueno!!

GPK 04-13-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Brilliant.

This weekend was brilliant for golf I thought - loads in with chances, Phil, Tiger etc stalking from behind making moves, young guys like Kim and McIlroy showing glimpses of how good they can become, old guys like Perry (and to a lesser extent Sandy Lyle and Larry Mize on Day 1) showing they still have got game.. It's hard not to like Cabrera though, well done big man! Muy Bueno!!


Yeah Kev, hard not to like Cabrera. Solid player and glad he proved the 07 US Open was no fluke.

2MinsToPost 04-13-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You including choking a Major away? I'll be honest with you. The guy from Argentina hung in there like a man. This is twice this guy has choked a major away. Kenny is a good player, but this is a choke. I was wrong about him, because I thought he had the nad to win a major. I was wrong, because if he does any of these things below, then, he's a Major winner right now.

With a decent approach on 17.....K PERRY WINS

With a decent chip on 17....K PERRY WINS

If he hits it in the fairway on 18........K PERRY WINS

If he hits a decent approach on 18....K PERRY WINS

If he gets down in 2 on 18(granted, it wasn't easy).......K PERRY WINS

With a decent approach on 1st playoff hole.........K PERRY WINS

With a decent approach on 2nd playoff hole(to put pressure back on Cabrera).........K PERRY WINS

That's 7 chokes in a row. He choked this away.

In defeat he handled it the way I would think a man would, I screwed up. Scuds, I just take issue with your calling him a Hillbilly is all. It really bothers me. Now, when you got a scum dirtbag that has not worked in 10 years with 5 kids from 5 different women living with his pal in tim buk too call him what you want. But, for a lot of us caucasian folk here in Ohio (and I don't know your background Scuds), a lot of us take the label Hillbilly wrong is all.

I think Kenny Perry had every chance to win the Masters and left it at the door, especially when he pulled out driver. But, I am a sittin in my recliner watching, not playing. When you go 22 holes bogey free then.................

well it looks bad. And he admitted in his press conference that it got to him. Thats the difference between him and a lot of others and what defines him as a man, ability to admit he screwed up.

3kings 04-13-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Yeah Kev, hard not to like Cabrera. Solid player and glad he proved the 07 US Open was no fluke.


Agreed! This sticks it up the @ss of all the snobby Oakmont members who did not think Cabrera was worthy of being an Oakmont major champion. They were very annoyed that his portrait would join the like Hogan, Nicklaus, and Miller etc... They actually debated not putting it up(not sure if they did I haven't been there in a couple of years).

pgardn 04-13-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I'm pretty sure Angel will feel comfortable talking sh*t to Tiger when he wins 12 more majors

Seems too happy-go-lucky to even care.
Its nice to see a guy so laid back.

All in all though it looked like everyone struggled
mightly at the end. Tiger and Phil made huge comebacks
and then hit a wall. Angel C. hit so many bad shots.
He might have been able to win going away if he
would have hit a few greens in regulation.

I would not consider this one of the classic wins
would you kev? Seemed like a big fat struggle not
to choke.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-13-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
And he admitted in his press conference that it got to him. Thats the difference between him and a lot of others and what defines him as a man, ability to admit he screwed up.

I thinks it's nice(the ability to admit it's your own fault,) but this is not running a stop sign. This is competitive sports, and he says the Majors are how golfers careers are judged. You keep talking about how a man should act. Well, believe me, it's not manly to blow 4 straight approach shots with a Major up for grabs. This is one of the best iron players around. You don't want to teach your kids to cave in like that. You want them to keep believing (like Angel did.) BUT.....(BIG BUT).....There are about 7 Majors between now, and the time Kenny moves on to the old folks tour. I'll tell you exactly what a man does. It's not just say I fkd up. No, a man comes right back, and kicks butt in another major. He's done this on the regular tour. It's been 13 years since he had the pressure of trying to win a Major. He caved in. That's not the end of it. He needs to get right back out there, and win his Major. That's what a man does. This is the start. All that crap about "may never have another chance" etc. That's bullshit. Get out there and win your Major.

gales0678 04-13-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I'm pretty sure Angel will feel comfortable talking sh*t to Tiger when he wins 12 more majors


again kev you're missing the point , he wins the us open last year on a bad knee , guts it out vs rocco in a 90 hole marathon , great win , great performance , praises rocco , rocco praises him

now he shows up to the masters gives it his best shot as he always does and he comes out with a "bad aid comment" as though to imply if all systems were go he would have taken this thing down as business as usual ... well i ain't so sure , he was 100% all out with the whip against Angel in the '07 open and couldn't get by him then , are we to take from tiger's comments that he would have blown right by these guys if he had his "A" swing

you been out on tour , you been around the game , you know how hard it is to win regular events , let alone majors , for cbs to show that "band aid" comment when the other guys were out there fighting for a major was terrible

does angel only get half a green jacket cause tiger had a band aid swing on sunday ?- gimme a break

gales0678 04-13-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I thinks it's nice(the ability to admit it's your own fault,) but this is not running a stop sign. This is competitive sports, and he says the Majors are how golfers careers are judged. You keep talking about how a man should act. Well, believe me, it's not manly to blow 4 straight approach shots with a Major up for grabs. This is one of the best iron players around. You don't want to teach your kids to cave in like that. You want them to keep believing (like Angel did.) BUT.....(BIG BUT).....There are about 7 Majors between now, and the time Kenny moves on to the old folks tour. I'll tell you exactly what a man does. It's not just say I fkd up. No, a man comes right back, and kicks butt in another major. He's done this on the regular tour. It's been 13 years since he had the pressure of trying to win a Major. He caved in. That's not the end of it. He needs to get right back out there, and win his Major. That's what a man does. This is the start. All that crap about "may never have another chance" etc. That's bullshit. Get out there and win your Major.


he should like bethpage , setup for his draw nice, he probably won't play the british

GPK 04-13-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
again kev you're missing the point , he wins the us open last year on a bad knee , guts it out vs rocco in a 90 hole marathon , great win , great performance , praises rocco , rocco praises him

now he shows up to the masters gives it his best shot as he always does and he comes out with a "bad aid comment" as though to imply if all systems were go he would have taken this thing down as business as usual ... well i ain't so sure , he was 100% all out with the whip against Angel in the '07 open and couldn't get by him then , are we to take from tiger's comments that he would have blown right by these guys if he had his "A" swing

you been out on tour , you been around the game , you know how hard it is to win regular events , let alone majors , for cbs to show that "band aid" comment when the other guys were out there fighting for a major was terrible

does angel only get half a green jacket cause tiger had a band aid swing on sunday ?- gimme a break

Dont you think Tiger has proven that when he has his "A" swing that he is head and shoulders above the rest?

gales0678 04-13-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Dont you think Tiger has proven that when he has his "A" swing that he is head and shoulders above the rest?


i ain't saying he's not the best player when they all have their "A" games

but

they all always don't have their "A" games every week (tiger included) and you know that

and maybe now we are seeing that unless he has his "A" game he ain't going to win all the time , unlike 5 or 10 years ago

his comments about a "band aid" are meant to imply to everyone that there was an excuse for why he didn't win and cbs didn't need to show that , it was a dis-respect to the guys that were still out there fighting

you have been out there , you probably know some of the guys still out there , do you think the comments were appreciated in the locker room?

of the 3 guys that made the playoff , do you honestly believe any of them played their best on sunday either?

CSC 04-13-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
again kev you're missing the point , he wins the us open last year on a bad knee , guts it out vs rocco in a 90 hole marathon , great win , great performance , praises rocco , rocco praises him

now he shows up to the masters gives it his best shot as he always does and he comes out with a "bad aid comment" as though to imply if all systems were go he would have taken this thing down as business as usual ... well i ain't so sure , he was 100% all out with the whip against Angel in the '07 open and couldn't get by him then , are we to take from tiger's comments that he would have blown right by these guys if he had his "A" swing

you been out on tour , you been around the game , you know how hard it is to win regular events , let alone majors , for cbs to show that "band aid" comment when the other guys were out there fighting for a major was terrible

does angel only get half a green jacket cause tiger had a band aid swing on sunday ?- gimme a break

I don't think Tiger mean't it in a way of demeaning Cabrera's win yesterday, if anyone else said that, it wouldn't even make press. He wins on one leg last year and I know people were saying he was embellishing his injury until they found out the next day he was out for the rest of the year. He's always under a microscope and for what he has to deal with I think he's doing pretty well for himself. What I do know about him is he is far more respected by his peers than Phil is. A guy I work with knows someone who's in the lockeroom on tour and they have said as much. I don't think it's an untruth to say if Tiger is on his A game, it would take a hell of rd x 4 to beat him. The band aid comment is probably true, Phil was outdriving him on almost every hole, he's been out for almost a year, it was his short game and will/heart/smarts that got him to -8, even if you are not a fan of his, you have to respect what he did yesterday.

gales0678 04-13-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I don't think Tiger mean't it in a way of demeaning Cabrera's win yesterday, if anyone else said that, it wouldn't even make press. He wins on one leg last year and I know people were saying he was embellishing his injury until they found out the next day he was out for the rest of the year. He's always under a microscope and for what he has to deal with I think he's doing pretty well for himself. What I do know about him is he is far more respected by his peers than Phil is. A guy I work with knows someone who's in the lockeroom on tour and they have said as much. I don't think it's an untruth to say if Tiger is on his A game, it would take a hell of rd x 4 to beat him. The band aid comment is probably true, Phil was outdriving him on almost every hole, he's been out for almost a year, it was his short game and will/heart/smarts that got him to -8, even if you are not a fan of his, you have to respect what he did yesterday.


phil outdriving him means absolutley nothing , he reached all the par 5's in 2 mostly with irons

i just think that while the tournament is on cbs doesn't have to show tiger telling america that he didn't win because his swing was off this week , it ain't right for the guys still out there fighting to win

herkhorse 04-13-2009 08:48 PM

I've heard that the other guys on tour call Phil "Fig Jam"

CSC 04-13-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
phil outdriving him means absolutley nothing , he reached all the par 5's in 2 mostly with irons

i just think that while the tournament is on cbs doesn't have to show tiger telling america that he didn't win because his swing was off this week , it ain't right for the guys still out there fighting to win

I guess he could have said I didn't really have it this week, which basically is saying I don't have my A game. I understand where you are coming from but I don't see how his comment was disrespectful in any way.

CSC 04-13-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
I've heard that the other guys on tour call Phil "Fig Jam"

Incase posters are wondering, in layman's terms 'f@ck I'm gorgeous just ask me'.

philcski 04-13-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
he should like bethpage , setup for his draw nice, he probably won't play the british

not sure i agree, you need to be able to shape every shot differently on that course both off the tee and to hold the greens in the ideal position. doesn't really favor someone who shapes it one way or another. i've played it literally over a hundred times.

1st hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
2nd hole: draw tee, straight 2nd
3rd hole: draw
4th hole: draw tee, fade 2nd, pitch
5th hole: fade tee, draw 2nd
6th hole: straight, straight
7th hole: big fade tee, straight
8th hole: straight/fade
9th hole: big draw tee, straight
10th hole: straight tee, draw 2nd
11th hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
12th hole: high draw tee, straight 2nd
13th hole: high huge fade tee, straight 2nd (if they can reach in 2)
14th hole: used to be better to hit a fade but they reshaped the green, prob better to hit a high draw now
15th hole: straight, sky high draw
16th hole: fade, fade
17th hole: depends on the pin
18th hole: straight, straight

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Originally Posted by CSC
Incase posters are wondering, in layman's terms 'f@ck I'm gorgeous just ask me'.

i didn't know what that meant. i like it :$:

herkhorse 04-14-2009 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Incase posters are wondering, in layman's terms 'f@ck I'm gorgeous just ask me'.

In his case I think the third word is good.

CSC 04-14-2009 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
In his case I think the third word is good.

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Originally Posted by philcski
not sure i agree, you need to be able to shape every shot differently on that course both off the tee and to hold the greens in the ideal position. doesn't really favor someone who shapes it one way or another. i've played it literally over a hundred times.

i didn't know what that meant. i like it :$:

There are differing versions I have heard for the third word:
"great", "good"

But It's basically known on tour who FIGJAM is.

gales0678 04-14-2009 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
not sure i agree, you need to be able to shape every shot differently on that course both off the tee and to hold the greens in the ideal position. doesn't really favor someone who shapes it one way or another. i've played it literally over a hundred times.

1st hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
2nd hole: draw tee, straight 2nd
3rd hole: draw
4th hole: draw tee, fade 2nd, pitch
5th hole: fade tee, draw 2nd
6th hole: straight, straight
7th hole: big fade tee, straight
8th hole: straight/fade
9th hole: big draw tee, straight
10th hole: straight tee, draw 2nd
11th hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
12th hole: high draw tee, straight 2nd
13th hole: high huge fade tee, straight 2nd (if they can reach in 2)
14th hole: used to be better to hit a fade but they reshaped the green, prob better to hit a high draw now
15th hole: straight, sky high draw
16th hole: fade, fade
17th hole: depends on the pin
18th hole: straight, straight



i didn't know what that meant. i like it :$:


i think you will agree that a long hitter will win at bethpaige - kenny is in the top 10 % of long hitter on tour

most of the holes he can hit his draw , on number #1 there is room to start your ball to the right and bring it back , i realize it's a fade hole , but , it's not like you can't play a draw there

the 5th hole will be the hardest hole for him , it might be the hardest par 4 in the world when the wind is blowing

he can make #13 a 3 shot par 5 - no issue there

11 and 16 allow the player to hit any shot off the tee , they are jsut long striaght holes

unless there have been a lot of changes since i have been on the course last , but i don't think there is much room to move the holes around that much

the other trillinghast course where thye had the open in ny (winged foot) is a lot tighter and the doglegs are a lot sharper and require more of a demand to turn your tee shots both ways , bethpaige has always played longer in my opinion

philcski 04-14-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
i think you will agree that a long hitter will win at bethpaige - kenny is in the top 10 % of long hitter on tour

most of the holes he can hit his draw , on number #1 there is room to start your ball to the right and bring it back , i realize it's a fade hole , but , it's not like you can't play a draw there

the 5th hole will be the hardest hole for him , it might be the hardes par 4 in the world when the wind is blowing

def need to bomb it... short hitters have 0 chance. i do think kenny has a big chance if he continues to putt well. i'm rooting for him. yeah actually he prob could draw it on 1 cause they can carry the big trees on the corner, just if it gets firm the fairway won't hold that shape. i can't wait for the tourney, bethpage is my favorite golf course i've ever played.

the 5th hole gives me nightmares. if the green wasn't so flat it would be the hardest par 4, instead i think 15 might be tougher.

gales0678 04-14-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
def need to bomb it... short hitters have 0 chance. i do think kenny has a big chance if he continues to putt well. i'm rooting for him. yeah actually he prob could draw it on 1 cause they can carry the big trees on the corner, just if it gets firm the fairway won't hold that shape. i can't wait for the tourney, bethpage is my favorite golf course i've ever played.

the 5th hole gives me nightmares. if the green wasn't so flat it would be the hardest par 4, instead i think 15 might be tougher.


phil - the tee shot on 5 with the bunker on the right and the the woods left and then the wind blowing might be the hardest tee shot in all of golf , then you go uphill to a well bunkerd green that is not as severe as 15 but probably still one of the hardest greens on the course

15 gives you room on the tee to hit the ball either way , the usga can't cut the pin in the front third of the green because it would be illegal - the pro's are lucky in that respect, some of them may not finish if they did put the pin on the front part of that green , i played a college tournament there back in the 90's - a good player walked in from #15 - the old N/C , you can't keep the ball on the green if you are above the hole and the pin is in the front it's impossible and unfair - #5 is just a great , tough fair , hole

philcski 04-14-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
phil - the tee shot on 5 with the bunker on the right and the the woods left and then the wind blowing might be the hardest tee shot in all of golf , then you go uphill to a well bunkerd green that is not as severe as 15 but probably still one of the hardest greens on the course

15 gives you room on the tee to hit the ball either way , the usga can't cut the pin in the front third of the green because it would be illegal - the pro's are lucky in that respect, some of them may not finish if they did put the pin on the front part of that green , i played a college tournament there back in the 90's - a good player walked in from #15 - the old N/C , you can't keep the ball on the green if you are above the hole and the pin is in the front it's impossible and unfair - #5 is just a great , tough fair , hole

you are stoking my passion to play... as soon as my shoulder is healed i'll be out there sleeping in my car ;)

i kinda wish the red course would get some tournament love... maybe a us am or something, that is such a great course too. when i was in college st. johns hosted their tournament there

gales0678 04-14-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
you are stoking my passion to play... as soon as my shoulder is healed i'll be out there sleeping in my car ;)

i kinda wish the red course would get some tournament love... maybe a us am or something, that is such a great course too. when i was in college st. johns hosted their tournament there

don't forget Eisenhower Park down the street , Nassau county has a lot of great public golf courses

philcski 04-14-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
don't forget Eisenhower Park down the street , Nassau county has a lot of great public golf courses

yeah Eisenhower is decent, im not a huge fan at the prices they charge non-nassau residents but it's very playable... LI has a ridiculous collection of golf courses, both private and public.

2MinsToPost 04-14-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I thinks it's nice(the ability to admit it's your own fault,) but this is not running a stop sign. This is competitive sports, and he says the Majors are how golfers careers are judged. You keep talking about how a man should act. Well, believe me, it's not manly to blow 4 straight approach shots with a Major up for grabs. This is one of the best iron players around. You don't want to teach your kids to cave in like that. You want them to keep believing (like Angel did.) BUT.....(BIG BUT).....There are about 7 Majors between now, and the time Kenny moves on to the old folks tour. I'll tell you exactly what a man does. It's not just say I fkd up. No, a man comes right back, and kicks butt in another major. He's done this on the regular tour. It's been 13 years since he had the pressure of trying to win a Major. He caved in. That's not the end of it. He needs to get right back out there, and win his Major. That's what a man does. This is the start. All that crap about "may never have another chance" etc. That's bullshit. Get out there and win your Major.

Nice post and I agree. Your right on here Scuds.


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