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Riot 04-09-2009 10:58 PM

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Well it doesn't surprise me, because you just ignored an obvious case where Muslims refused to go after Muslims that killed thousands of New Yorkers.
Unfortunately, one rather reaching example has nothing at all to do with how all the Muslims in the world can be predicted to act.

For example, let's take the Americans serving in our armed forces right now, the ones that are Muslim.

Do you think these Muslims should be kicked out of our armed forces, and not be allowed to serve in Iraq, Afghanistan? Certainly, by just being Muslim, they are a huge risk?

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You're gunna ignore what you want to ignore. The fact is Muslims typically see other Muslims as superior to others.

Honu 04-09-2009 11:00 PM

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The first thing would be to learn who the enemy is.

It's not "Muslims".


Ok well the lets see who they are , they are Afgans , Pakastanis , Iranians ,Africans , Iraqis, Saudis , Turks , and Palestinians and the common theme is Islam right?
Not all Germans were Nazi's and not all Japanese were Commikazis and not all Italians were Fascists but when you let some represent most then they most likely will be lumped in.
It is not out fault that terrorrists chose a most cowardly way to kill people but until their own people revolt against them then they leave themselves wide open to be assumed to be with them ,than against them.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-09-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Unfortunately, one rather reaching example has nothing at all to do with how all the Muslims in the world can be predicted to act.

For example, let's take the Americans serving in our armed forces right now, the ones that are Muslim.

Do you think these Muslims should be kicked out of our armed forces, and not be allowed to serve in Iraq, Afghanistan? Certainly, by just being Muslim, they are a huge risk?

Reaching example? Bringing the 9-11 terrorists to justice is not a reaching example. It's basic. You say they are like us? No, they aren't. Most Muslims aren't in favor of going after the terrorists that were in charge of 9-11. Tells me a lot more than this boundless tripe you people bring in here. We shouldn't be alone in wanting Al Quaeda to be caught, and punished. I'm tired of Muslim Bullshit like this, and those that overlook their 2- faced ways. You embarrass yourself. Open your eyes. There is a Muslim country with the 2nd largest army in NATO, and they refuse to die going after Al QUAEDA. SAYS A WHOLE LOT. Ain't a "reach." It's about Muslims refusing to go after fellow Muslims that knocked down buildings full of Americans. Such a great fkn religion, but they have no interest in catching scum that did stuff they say is against Islam. Muslims always get a pass like this. You say most Muslims are like us? No, we would go get these thugs if they were Christians that knocked down a Mosque full of Muslims. They refuse to do the same. They aren't like us, and I refuse to ever be like them.

"Turkey currently has a force of around 900 non-combat forces in the Afghan capital Kabul. But Washington has been pressing Ankara along with other NATO members to send combat troops to Afghanistan.
The chiefs of the Turkish armed forces and government officials are mindful that public opinion is unenthusiastic."


Your tripe will be believable when I see these people bring fellow Muslims to justice(for killing innocent American People on 9-11.) That's when they become like me. Now go charge someone $200 for a fkn rabbies shot, and 1-minute look at an animal.

Riot 04-10-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Reaching example? Bringing the 9-11 terrorists to justice is not a reaching example. It's basic. You say they are like us? No, they aren't. Most Muslims aren't in favor of going after the terrorists that were in charge of 9-11. Tells me a lot more than this boundless tripe you people bring in here. We shouldn't be alone in wanting Al Quaeda to be caught, and punished. I'm tired of Muslim Bullshit like this, and those that overlook their 2- faced ways. You embarrass yourself. Open your eyes. There is a Muslim country with the 2nd largest army in NATO, and they refuse to die going after Al QUAEDA. SAYS A WHOLE LOT. Ain't a "reach." It's about Muslims refusing to go after fellow Muslims that knocked down buildings full of Americans. Such a great fkn religion, but they have no interest in catching scum that did stuff they say is against Islam. Muslims always get a pass like this. You say most Muslims are like us? No, we would go get these thugs if they were Christians that knocked down a Mosque full of Muslims. They refuse to do the same. They aren't like us, and I refuse to ever be like them.

"Turkey currently has a force of around 900 non-combat forces in the Afghan capital Kabul. But Washington has been pressing Ankara along with other NATO members to send combat troops to Afghanistan.
The chiefs of the Turkish armed forces and government officials are mindful that public opinion is unenthusiastic."


Your tripe will be believable when I see these people bring fellow Muslims to justice(for killing innocent American People on 9-11.) That's when they become like me. Now go charge someone $200 for a fkn rabbies shot, and 1-minute look at an animal.

Thank God, I've run into very few that are "like you".

Coach Pants 04-10-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Thank Allah, I've run into very few that are "like you".

FTFY

SCUDSBROTHER 04-10-2009 12:28 AM

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"They" are just like the overwhelming majority of their Christian or Jewish or Buddist or atheist fellow humans on this planet: they are going about their peaceful, moral lives, raising families, putting food on the table, working.

"Avoid using your left hand while eating unless you are left-handed, though you may use it to peel fruits or separate meat from bones. In any case make sure that your left hand does not carry any food up to your mouth (due to explicit and strict cautioning against this in the Sunnah").


Now, you say they are like us. When's the last time you smacked a kid around for eating left-handed? I can bring someone in here, and he will tell you he got smacked around pretty good for eating left-handed (gee..he's left-handed...big surprise that he wanted to use his left hand.) All this because their proph thought people wouldn't overeat so much if they had to use just one hand to eat with.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-10-2009 12:36 AM

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Thank God, I've run into very few that are "like you".

Yea, but you see nothing wrong with Muslims that refuse to fight fellow Muslim Terrorists that planned the killings of thousands of Innocent Americans on 9-11. That's just fine:zz: .

Riot 04-10-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
"Avoid using your left hand while eating unless you are left-handed, though you may use it to peel fruits or separate meat from bones. In any case make sure that your left hand does not carry any food up to your mouth (due to explicit and strict cautioning against this in the Sunnah").


Now, you say they are like us. When's the last time you smacked a kid around for eating left-handed? I can bring someone in here, and he will tell you he got smacked around pretty good for eating left-handed (gee..he's left-handed...big surprise that he wanted to use his left hand.) All this because their proph thought people wouldn't overeat so much if they had to use just one hand to eat with.

Sorry - I just can't accept the above as proof that all Muslims are terrorists out to get the United States.

The bolded part? Where did you get that information from?

Riot 04-10-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Yea, but you see nothing wrong with Muslims that refuse to fight fellow Muslim Terrorists that planned the killings of thousands of Innocent Americans on 9-11. That's just fine.

?? That's not remotely true.

Seriously - you can't just make up straw men out of thin air.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-10-2009 01:03 AM

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Sorry - I just can't accept the above as proof that all Muslims are terrorists out to get the United States.

The bolded part? Where did you get that information from?

It's not proof that anyone is a terrorist. It's a response to you saying:

"They are just like the overwhelming majority of their Christian or Jewish or Buddist or atheist fellow humans on this planet"


http://www.islamtoday.com/show_detai...main_cat_id=14

http://www.scribd.com/doc/1503918/Is...g-and-Drinking

Danzig 04-10-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
The first thing would be to learn who the enemy is.

It's not "Muslims".


:tro:

Danzig 04-10-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
It's not proof that anyone is a terrorist. It's a response to you saying:

"They are just like the overwhelming majority of their Christian or Jewish or Buddist or atheist fellow humans on this planet"


http://www.islamtoday.com/show_detai...main_cat_id=14

http://www.scribd.com/doc/1503918/Is...g-and-Drinking

my uncle went to catholic school and got smacked around by the nuns for being left-handed.
and yes, i'd think many muslims are just like many christians or jews, they want to live their life and be left alone. it's the few zealots in each of those religions, or the few criminals who happen to be catholic, jewish, etc, who give the rest of 'them' a bad name. i don't really think anyone believes that EVERY roman catholic priest molests children, do they? but EVERY muslim is a terrorist?

Danzig 04-10-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
"Avoid using your left hand while eating unless you are left-handed, though you may use it to peel fruits or separate meat from bones. In any case make sure that your left hand does not carry any food up to your mouth (due to explicit and strict cautioning against this in the Sunnah").


Now, you say they are like us. When's the last time you smacked a kid around for eating left-handed? I can bring someone in here, and he will tell you he got smacked around pretty good for eating left-handed (gee..he's left-handed...big surprise that he wanted to use his left hand.) All this because their proph thought people wouldn't overeat so much if they had to use just one hand to eat with.

'they' are just like some of us. you for instance. you blindly hate turks, you think they blindly hate you. not so different at all. the difference comes in where you don't feel the need to blow yourself up along with some of the people you hate, while some of them get to that point.

i do find something else odd. what we label terrorism. i think the guys going out and shooting up scores of folks before killing themselves should be referred to as such. oh.....but that would label some of us here, non-muslims, as terrorists wouldn't it? but it's the same thing-guy gets angry and decides to take out as many others as he can before dying. just with guns instead of bombs. just as random, and just as hard to stop before it happens.


at any rate, no minds will be changed i'm sure. this is most likely an exercise in futility....

Antitrust32 04-10-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
"They" are just like the overwhelming majority of their Christian or Jewish or Buddist or atheist fellow humans on this planet: they are going about their peaceful, moral lives, raising families, putting food on the table, working.


and you forgot to add raping their wives... its legal ya know!

Antitrust32 04-10-2009 08:40 AM

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Funny.

My experience has been that it's some Christians who have the grandest superiority complex.


thats true too! But they dont rape their wives, they just have their Priests rape children.

Riot 04-10-2009 02:09 PM

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and you forgot to add raping their wives... its legal ya know!

Go read up on how the law varies between different middle eastern states and countries, and other countries where the majority of the population is Islamic, and how the different sects of Islam view that.

Antitrust32 04-12-2009 03:39 AM

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Go read up on how the law varies between different middle eastern states and countries, and other countries where the majority of the population is Islamic, and how the different sects of Islam view that.

:rolleyes:


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