It's because of the BCS system that a school like Utah or Boise St. is even in the conversation and under consideration for a top bowl. Who you play absolutely has to matter. I guess you probably thought up until yesterday that Ball St. deserved to be in the mix too? What would you have said if they too had ended up undefeated?

Ever hear of villanova 85 bball champs!
 

Whatever. Yeah the underdog never wins it all. Villanova won the basketball championship in 85. No one gave them a chance. Man can you imagine if the bcs ran the basketball tournament, they would have given it to gtown why play the game. Also nc state. But yeah you stay stuck on that. Anyone in any game can beat anyone in college football just like in basketball. Who thought duke would lose to michigan today? Thats whats great about basketball and so sad about football. Their is now 34 bowl games! That is a joke. Rewarding teams on bad seasons getting to go to a warm climate and play in a joke of a bowl game. Example is wisconsin they don't deserve to be in a bowl game. So you keep dreaming the little guy couldn't win. How do you know they aren't given the chance by these bs idiots!

Or BYU winning the NC by winning the '84 Holiday Bowl over a 6-5 Michigan. The only way that happened is with the "Bowl System". If there is a playoff, BYU doesn't make it out of the second round.

I made my prediction with the expectation that Harvin would be playing. He didn't play. I still took the bet of Florida -10 and won that bet. What would have been the point of coming on at halftime of a game that has two halves? I don't get it. I may indeed suck. My opinion may indeed be garbage. Those things are subjective opinions. What is concrete fact is that my opinions won me a nice dinner for the night. And it won't include any dicks. Have a nice night sir.

Arrogant bastard wants me to congratulate Florida when they stepped on our god damn player at the end of the game and Spikes took a hit on our QB. F.uck Florida and their jort-wearing fans.

You also were a facemask penalty away from losing both of your bets, douchenozzle.

Nobody said that they COULDN'T win it. But football is very different from basketball. In a one-game scenario, sure, they could pull an upset. In a playoff series, it becomes increasingly unlikely that they would get anywhere near a championship. They are much better off taking the huge money that comes from making a BCS game and running with it and possibly ending their really good seasons with bowl game wins instead of being a possible first or second round playoff casualty.

Horrors.
He gave the dollar lama s hit?


The strange thing is that Bama is better than Texas imo, yet probably falls below them because they lose at the end of the year.

Florida may be overrated but they are the best team in college football and they showed why. Fourth quarter was a knockout.

When rebels beat gators how much you lose?
 

When the rebels beat gators I bet you took a killing! The fact is florida lost and shouldn't be in championship game. To piss of bs meier should say sorry we lost and utah and boise state should play for championship. They haven't lost! Great point about byu by the way. Little guy can't win unless given chance!

When they start not paying bets based on what might have happened, we'll all be in trouble won't we?

Sure thing, tard-o. I've been posting football picks on here for 3 years. Enjoy your one win. Let me know when you want to take the Pepsi Challenge.

Feb 30th, 2011. And you better be there.

My point about BYU was that it was a complete bull.s.hit national championship. I was not agreeing with you in any way shape or form. If a playoff system exists, BYU doesn't sniff the NC in '84. If there is a playoff this year, Utah and Boise don't stand a chance to win more than once before being bounced.

USC, Okalahoma, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Texas Tech, Penn State......etc....>>>>Boise and Utah.

No surprise to see the overrated Tide go down.



Just a damn shame we won't get to see that Trojan D suffocate the Gaytors next month...

No laughing matter, DaHoss9698


Trojans would stuff those Gaytors...

ask texas.about usc..uni-of spoiled children

It is a laughing matter.

lol

Timmy T would be crying uncle halfway thru the third, Bigmac.

Absolutely on the money..........maybe they can wear the Red shirts next month at home when they are watching Florida and Oak. play for the national championship. They don't play anyone in an ordinary conference yet they want an invitation to the National Championship because they deserve a mulligan. All Alabama did was beat quality teams week in and week out in the toughest conference in the country. They got beat today and will accept the outcome without whining about what color shirt they have to wear playing at home.

You gotta love the lesson Pete Carroll taught his kids today.......you don't like the rule.....F>**'em just wear what you want and let them have the TO's. Like the damn shirt is making tackles for them........The penalty was too light IMO.

shame that once again they won't make the title game to prove it, eh? :rolleyes:

Anybody watch the cheapshots UCLA was handing out today? I only watched about the last quarter or so, and I lost count. Sanchez gunna hurt a lot in the morning.

Congrats to all who had Florida today. That was a tough beat. Yes, i lost cash on Bama today.

Is it just me or is Julio Jones the second coming of Michael irvin?

Again the MAN has the line perfectly......10 in most places at some point this week. Florida wins by 11....

Well the MAN really screwed up the Army /Navy line. How was that not a 20 point line?

The problem tha i have with the current system is that if these teams like Utah and Boise dont have a chance to win the title then why are they in the same division? make a super division 1 with all the power conferences and have seperate playoffs or whatever. While there is no doubt they would be unlikely to be undefeated in bigger conferences what else can those teams do except win every game? Unlike the NCAA tourney in basketball, football is settled with ridiclous computer polls and opinions, rather than the results on the field. The perfect example is Texas beats OK, Texas Texh beat Texas, Ok beats Texas Tech. Who is better? Why should what you or I or anyone else thinks matter? A playoff will settle matters. It isnt about who is the "best" team or who would win the most if they played 100 times. It is about winning the game on the field. Naturally there would be some controversy about who gets in and the 9th and 10th teams will cry but there has to be a cut off somewhere. This isnt 1970 anymore where a few teams are vastly superior to everyone else and carry 125 scholarship players. Just about anyone can beat anyone on a given day and to not have a playoff system is unfair to everyone. The reasons given against the system are so ludicrious that I cant believe that they are made with a straight face. The Conferences like the Pac 10 and Big 10 that hold it up should simply be excluded from a system until they drop thier opposition. If the SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Wac, Mountain west, Conference USA and MAC all joined together to have a seperate playoff system the Big 10 and Pac 10 would be screwed and have to join in. I still dont see why the "bowls" have so much power over college football when they arent even part of the NCAA or any of the schools.

one problem with the current system is that there is still a bias towards certain schools/regions due to their tradition and history-it explains why osu (for example)begins the season practically every year ranked very high. it also explain why just a couple of years ago, many wanted a rematch between osu/mich in the title game, rather than fla getting in.
if utah and boise st want to get more recognition, they can begin by changing their schedules in future, and taking on some tougher non-conference opponents. they are currently considered the 'peppers pride' of bcs football. if they want to fight amongst the supposed power houses, they can help control their destiny. BUT, they still fight an uphill battle, because ratings still matter-witness osu possibly getting a bcs bowl, rather than the higher-ranked utah.

and for anyone still wondering why the current system is in place, and seemingly unchangeable--i recommend finding the dec 1 issue of SI, and reading the article titled 'ka-ching!' by terry mcdonnell.

Couple of things. For schools like Utah and Boise St, it is very difficult scheduling non-conference opponents. A lot of the big schools want nothing to do with them because they can be a very tough opponent. Also, if they were to get a big name opponent to take the game, it's almost always going to have to be a road game for Utah or Boise St. No way in the world do the big time power schools take road games at one of those types of places. It's too risky. Second thing is that Utah will be in a BCS bowl this year. They are automatically in. OSU is in competition with Boise St for a spot.

Utah does get a BCS Bowl game, they will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. The following is the procedure for a non BCS conference team to play in a BCS bowl game>

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:


A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

i was referencing what i read the other day when they were discussing osu possibly getting a higher bowl than utah because of assumed better rating-if that didn't happen, good for the utes.

if they do nothing to toughen their schedule, than they have no right to turn around and complain-you can't have it both ways. i doubt an honest effort has been made to take on tougher opponents. for example, lsu and oklahoma will start facing each other in i believe two years. neither one has to add tougher opponents, yet they chose to do so, which is a good thing for fans. if they can do this, certainly these other schools can do the same-and with multi-year contracts, it would be done on a rotation as far as home field.

A whole lot more people will watch Texas v. Ohio St., than Texas v. Boise I would think, even with the Boise miracle. Secondly, I would think it will be a bit of a boost to the people around Glendale. The crappy Alamobowl here turns into a Winter vacation for the inferior Big 10 teams... City loves it.

All these places that have bowl games apparently have some pull with the college presidents. No one wants to lose their bowl game. Who gets the final in a playoff? Who gets the first round games? pretty darn messy. The NCAA officials in basketball that decide on future sites... think they get a good meal when they come to a prospective tournaments site?

And come to think of it everyone seems to be talking a whole lot more about how bad the BCS system is. Everyone has an opinion. I guess that is good. I also prefer a playoff (those that decide seem to ignore my preferences sadly)... but all the crap that goes on with the BCS is very entertaining.

I thoroughly enjoyed all the angles my fellow Longhorn's tried to take to persuade my team into the championship. The 45-35 flyover debacle, the whining, its all good stuff.

Here is a great paper on the subject i found doing a search. Very interesting read.

http://www.momentummedia.com/article...rightmoves.htm

Utah and Boise are hardly desirable non-conference teams for major conference teams to schedule. The SEC teams wont want to schedule them, the Big 12 teams wont want them. They will claim their inconference schedules are too hard to play a tougher out of conference teams. Utah has played at Michigan, at Louisville, oregon state (2x) the last 2 years. They won the Fiesta bowl a few year ago in a laugher. Boise St plays in a weaker conference that Utah but noone any good will go and play on that blue field and they have a rep from beating Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

can you blame them?

hell no

Congratulations Fla. Gator fans:tro: . it was a pretty well played game. go now and win the NC for the SEC, Again!

If Oklahoma doesn't win with that offensive line they've got then they are never going to win another championship.

i think OU is soft on both side of the ball and i think fla can play enough defense to slow them down. i'd like to see the gators win it. (choking he whole time i typed that):wf

I don't. I'd rather they both tie and the championship goes to Bama.

i don't care who wins, they both do nothing for me. but i will be cheering for penn st in the rose bowl.