timmi told me you were sending him those. how did you find another guy to do that in erie?

Keep obsessing over Erie you tedious piece of sh!t.

Yeah, and keep acting like a childish little punk...in erie.:)

You sure told me.

Didnt need to. You are showing yourself to be a little tiny person. Certainly NOT a man.

Oh stop yer bickering , the Pied Piper is calling you ......

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...er_of_Commerce

It is totally right wing and they are totally partisan. Schummer just berated them.

Next you are going to tell me Business Roundtable is non-partisan as well.

To stray slightly from the topic, McCain has announced that he is going to "whip" Obama's " you know what " in the next debate ... Followed by the disclaimer ( sic ) that he will conduct himself respectfully ...

Do what you want with statement one, the next seems to put an oxy before the moron ...

Way to go, John ... Please pass the duct tape along with the Metamucil and the gingko biloba ...

I only lost 8 % in the stock market, but I seem to have lost Mortimer ...













Thud .....

That's all of us handicappers who claim our "profits" at the end of the year as a gambling business, right? :rolleyes:

[quote=Danzig]Here's what I don't get. Don't Republicans believe in less government involvement and less government spending (thereby reducing taxes)?
Then, why is it that when the last two Republican Presidents got into office the national debt skyrocketed? This isn't a slam against Bush and Reagan as much as it just a question. Is the answer simply Cold War spending(Reagan) and 9/11, Iraq, economy(Bush) ?

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do you have anything positive to say about Obama's plans?

I thought he said he would move them from Iraq and sent them to Afghanistan. I don't think he plans on bringing them home.

Thanks!

1. OK I can see that - he does have a good presence about him.

2. How much do we get? I keep hearing that 40% of the people don't pay taxes and they will get checks - if this is true it really pi$$es me off...where the hell is this money coming from? I guess if he gives it to the people that pay no taxes some if it comes from me!

3. He says he will withdraw from Iraq but will send them to Afghanistan. Like it or not I don't think you can just withdraw from Iraq and not make a total mess in the region....or maybe you can just say fucl< it and walk away.

2. I think his plan is to get the money from the wealthy and from corporations by increasing their taxes.

3. I am actually torn on this myself Geeker. I dont think that they are ALL supposed to go to Afghanistan. Either way though, the plan is a phase by phase withdrawl that will be completed in 16 months. The region is already a total mess but I, too, have apprehensions about what will become of the oil supply, er, people in the region.

The problem with saying this candidate will do 1, 2, and 3 while the other guy will do A, B, and C is that there is no way of knowing what they will be able to accomplish when they get in there. That is pretty much always true in presidential elections, but it is particularly true this time when neither guy can have any real idea just how miserable the economy is going to be when he takes over. They both propose various tax policies and spending initiatives that will most likely need to be dramatically changed no matter who wins.

I don't vote for people because of specific policy promises they make because circumstances will almost always change them. However, I also don't vote for people based on their personality. I am looking for a general governing philosophy. I believe that health care is a right, and that the current system needs to be significantly overhauled. I believe the Bush tax cuts for the rich should be eliminated. I believe the U.S. should not only get out of Iraq, but should refrain from other unwarrented preemptive invasions. I believe Supreme Court justices should protect a woman's right to choose. etc. etc.
In general, Obama's philosophy/ideology matches up with mine, so I'm voting for him. That doesn't mean that all of his specific proposals are going to get done, and there is no way of knowing what exactly his presidency will "do" for the American people. I think that if he wins, some of the stuff he wants to get done probably will happen, and some of it won't. That is just reality.

Give NoseDrops a shout.



:)

Excellent thudding..well done.

Schumer berating someone is actually a positive sign for the offended party. Is there any organization that you wouldnt call partisan? Partisan or not most of the information that was stated was fact. Taxing business will hurt the American worker that you seem to weep for. Taking more money away from business will shrink the ecomony, not grow it.

I also find it interesting that you would quote a totally partisan website in trying to demean another suppoedly partisan website. The 2 quotes made in the opening statement are from totally partisan and extreme left wing fringe elements.

What's ecomony? Sounds like this chick that sings the Dodger Fightsong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyRSvF-CinU

Unofficial Dodger fightsong (evidently they constantly play it in the clubhouse....a Greg Maddux favorite)

[x4]
All I wanna do is (BANG BANG BANG BANG!)
And (KKKAAAA CHING!)
And take your money

The tax "plan" is completely unthoughtout and will never pass through the House. Anytime earning caps are put in place it retards growth. Much easier for the small business to shut it's doors on on Thanksgiving for the balance of the year and avoid the tax man, than employ people at a loss. Then we get to watch millions go unemployed for 6 weeks until they open shop again. And God forbid they string together a few decent quarters. Maybe we can startcelebrating Christmas on Halloween while they still have a few bucks in their pockets. Companies encouraged to "not make money" have a tendancy to do so.
The good news is that there isn't a prayer that anything remotely resembling this tax bill see light.

One win and your a happy dude again!

[quote=zippyneedsawin]at this point, i think it's a falsehood that either party doesn't believe in big govt. too many now look at the party and want to know what it's done for them. then there's the states having shuffled most of their responsibilities onto the feds as well.
i'm sure it's a variety of factors--and of course the more we make as a country, the more they spend. everyone, here and abroad looks at this country as being one big piggy bank for them to dip into.
i forget tho, which candidate is supposed to do less damage to the deficit in the years to come. obama's supposed tax cuts are higher than those of mccain, but i think obama has also asked for more spending-supposedly cap gains and other increases make up the difference.

I didn't want to get swept in a playoff series, and Furcal is my favorite player(so it was great seeing him wake-up.) There's no way they can win any playoff series without him playing well. Home run was a cookie pitch, but the 1st hit he got was on a decent pitch. I'd love to beat Billygoat up some with a whiffleball bat, but (last I heard) they want to try that slot machine again on Wednesday Night. What a headcase.


Obama won't have Annie Oakley (and the Alaskan White Eskimo) in his ear. That's a big plus. They belong back there at home killing animals, and firing those that refuse their commands. There is a place for them.

So Obama's plans that appeal to you are?

He's told everyone what he wants to do. So, I don't know why you want us to repeat what he has already said. There are many, many things he has said he wants to do(that I'd like to see get done.) It's not up entirely up to him. The senate and the House have their say-so. The problem you often have in discussions is you have people with totally different interests trying to exchange ideas, and it doesn't work. I can mention (until I am blue in the face) that there are 2 sick and old people to replace on the Supreme Court. That's very important to me, but it's not very important to some. However, it's the one sure thing that he will be able to do, and yes, I think America will be better off with his appointments. Is this guy anything special? I'm not looking for special. I'm looking for the person who can keep the Republican from getting in. It has nothing to do with him being a Democrat. It has nothing to do with anything except keeping a Republican the f out.

Then lets not pull links from opinionated third party websites with an agenda. Lets just stick to the facts and the stats. Deal?

I think you should PM Chuck a picture of your (_!_) as a gesture of friendship with a cc to Morty.

Fucl< Chuck...if any photos are to floated around here---I expect to get them.

Not that anyone would want to see them, but Mort is the only one in line for those types of photos.

Big mort fan!

Where did you get that picture? Looks like someone from Erie.

That's me! :mad:

that aint you coach. I know it isnt you.

Thats Doug Salvatore's stepfather.

No it's me.

On my porch...

You don't even recognize your nominee ?

I'm a boxer...that's why I challenge nerds to fights.

For those of you who slept through World History 101 here is a
condensed version.

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and
would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were:
1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel.
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to
the man.
These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct
subgroups:
1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the
beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were
invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to
be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were
formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
the Conservative movement.

Other men wh o were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned
to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the
sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the

beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The
rest became known as girlie-men.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication
of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the
Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide
all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the
largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant.

Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most
prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their
beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women
have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal
injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are
liberals.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still
provide for their women.

Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, firemen,
lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate
executives, athletes, golfers, and generally anyone who works productively.
Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a
living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the
producers and decide what to do with the production.

Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans.
That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were
coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a
business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to
angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the
absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other
true believers.

^^^ No pictures, this is what you get...