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Happy In Wi !!!! Go Crew !!!!!!!

Are you making it down for any of the games? I am going Sunday (if there is a game 4 assuming the Crew doesn't sweep it in 3). It is going to get crazy down here tomorrow and thru the weekend!

Looks like Lidge signed a 3 year extension at $12 million a year this season as well. So basically it becomes K-Rod or bust for the Mets. And it slightly increases the chance of someone paying to let Fuentes close. I wonder if the agents for Lidge and Nathan wish they hadn't signed those extensions now. At the time with Wagner healthy it made no sense to let their clients on the market to play second fiddle to K-Rod. Now with the Mets in the bidding war things have changed substantially.

It might not be the war that you think. Big spenders like the Yanks, Bosox already have closers. Who else is going/can afford to give him that type of money? The Dodgers, Tigers or if they flounder in the playoffs the Rays (I know a longshot, but it kind of makes sense with the young pitching on that team to have a guy like that to close). You have to think that it is going to come down to the Mets & Halo's.

There is a ceiling for what a closer can make and Nathan would not have played 2nd fiddle to anyone. He would have been more sought after than Krod. The saves record is nice but it is a record of opportunity as much as anything. Since the Angels didnt score a lot of runs there were an extraordinary number of save chances. He did well with him opportunities but Nathan is every bit as good as him, maybe better.

Cleveland? Milwaukee?

K-Rod was sought after long before this season, which was arguably his worst. Nathan was born in 1974, K-Rod was born in 1982 and already has more career saves than Nathan. That gives K-Rod significantly more value in the open market.

No the fact that Nathan is healthy and everyone thinks Krod's arm is going to fall off makes Nathan the better play. Krod isnt going to get a deal any better than the other 2 guys unless the Mets overpay him.

Francisco Rodriguez has eight saves of less than three outs. For comparison's sake, the pitchers ranked second and third in the AL in saves (Joakim Soria and Jonathan Papelbon) have combined for three all year. Brad Lidge, the NL's best reliever this season, has none.

K-Rod had his highest whip yet. (1.29) Up to just above average, but it keeps rising. But hey he still has an 1.000 K%.

If the Mets don't overpay him it will be because the Angels do. An arbiter put his value at $10 million this year. I can't ever recall a player that had an arbitrated value close to that high and didn't get significantly more when entering the market (without being injured). I would think $14 to $15 million a year. The only way you'll see $12 million a year is if someone goes to 7 years and throws on a healthy buyout on an option for an 8th year. My prediction is 5 years - $70 million but I wouldn't be shocked to see him get more.

Never happen. No closer is going to get more than a three or 4 year deal. I dont think he will get more than $12 a year either. There are too many deals at that level and he isnt better than the other guys. I just dont think the demand is there for him at crazy numbers.

I just don't think Clevleland will step up to pay him what he wants. I could be wrong but isn't Jake Westbrook the highest payed Indian at about 10 mil per year. Hafner is 2nd at 8 mil. I just can't see them opening up the pocketbook for K-rod. Especially with guys like Sizemore and Lee who eventually want to get paid.

As far as the Brewers go, I just feel they are going to be busy enough replacing CC and Sheets to put their main focus on a reliever. Didn't Torres do an admirable job anyway?

Yeah I doubt they will be in the running but I was trying to think of contenders who need a closer.

BJ Ryan got 5 years $47 million and that was back in 2005. K-Rod will get his $70 million.

And him blowing his arm out is why no one gives closers long term contracts. Omar Minaya does strange things with Latin players but if he does something that dumb it is close to Isiah time for him.

Most similar pitcher to K-Rod through 25

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/olsongr01.shtml

At least his daughters are famous

I don't think Minaya is very good, but that being said no one is in the Isiah category (Glenn Sather for the Rangers is getting close, maybe it is a msg thing. But that is for another thread another time).

But I really believe that Minaya is going to overpay and give him extra years on the deal to get K-Rod. The bullpen is the single most reason why they missed the playoffs and he is going to try to catch the biggest fish out there. He did it with Pedro. Gave him the extra year and Pedro was on the downside of his career. At least this guy s still in him prime.

no doubt about it !!! this state is as big a fan of the brewers as the packers, when they put a competitive team on the field. outside of this state some would not realize this with all the attention football and the packers get.

but all you have to do is go back and watch the 82 brewers run to the ws and that place was as crazy as any day at lambeau. that season county was packed all the time. and thankfully you and i will get to taste a little bit of it again.

hopefully more then the nds.

its going to be tuff but if cc is willing and ready to pitch twice and we get the bats a thumpin and just one other starter can pull out a win(hopefully gallardo on day one looks like our best shot as long as the crew get some hits off hamel) we could take this first round.

i know the critics have all jumped on the phillie bandwagon on espn, and for good reason. but we do the above and get a good bullpen performence the day gallardo pitches if we have a lead, there is no reason we don't have a chance.

very optimistic about our chances here in the first round with 5 games and cc

have a great time on sun if we are still around, what am i saying? how can you not ,that place will be ROCKING!!!!!!!!

GO CREW!!!!!!

My dad on Lidge: "He's as phuckin shaky as Mitch Williams was... yadda yadda yadda...Manuel is a DOPE for taking Hamels out...yadda yadda yadda WTF Manuel???"


Let's Go Phils, pull this $hit out!!!!

EDIT (postgame about Lidge)::: "He stinks!"

Note to self.

Never watch a meaningful Phils/Eagles game with him again. I don't care if my TV isnt a hi-def flat screen, this was just outrageous. He loudly summoned my sister and her friends to the basement when they came in and tweaked up the 'mojo' in the 9th.

35-pitch save and puts tying runs in scoring position after coming in with 3-0 lead. Let's hope for the Phillies sake that this is as bad as it gets, but I doubt it.

Save number 1

Did he boo Santa Claus?

So that puts him at 42 for 42 this year when entering the 9th with a 1, 2, or 3 run lead?? That is a tough thing to deal with.

LMAO. He didn't(so he says). But that St. Nick was a staggering drunk, so he should have.

CC Sabathia led both the American League and National League in shutouts this year. My guess is, we'll likely not see something like that happening ever again. Absolutely no pressure on him tomorrow!

LOL. He damn near blew it and you know it. Skin-of-the-teeth it-had-no-business-being-that-close save number 1.

Great stuff.

I love watching folks who love/hate their team.
And Philly fans... Impossible to please insures great comedy.

Just give us one winner not named Phantoms/Soul, thats all we ask. Well, everyone except for the police force that is.

He gave up on run when Utley fell down. He did strike out the side and K'ed Fielder. Save number 1.

Funny story about 700 level crowd.

TB/PHI NFC Championship, Last football game at the Vet(and last sporting event attended with my late friend Cory). About 5 minutes after Jurevicius toasted Levon Kirkland acrossed the middle, some guy is walking up the aisle with a red and black jacket on carrying food and a beer. He's about 5 rows from us, headed our way, when out of nowhere, some HUGE dude jumps into teh aisle and straight punches this guy in the mug, sending food and drink everywhere. He then unloads a few shots on him when he's on the ground, saying "F da Bucs, F da Bucs". The guy that got mollywhopped gets up all bloodied and starts screaming "Its a phuckin Marlboro jacket, its a marlboro jacket WTF".:D :D..The boo's start flying, the whole section is in an outrage to get JUICE head booted from the game. Finally, the food starts flying, he packs up his things (his wife) and hightails it out of there. Pure knucklehead, but it made for a funny story after the fact, knowing it was 2 Philly fans.

A week later Im listening to 610 WIP (local sports radio) and I hear a familiar voice telling the same exact story. Here, it turns out it was a buddy from school's dad who was mistaken as the Bucs fan, they had seats in the last row of the nosebleeds.

Cory and I always talked about that being one of the crazier moments we've ever shared, and it will forever hold a place in my heart.

:rolleyes: he was one single away from singlehandedly blowing a 3-0 lead. If you're going to chalk that up as a win for your side, I quit this discussion.

now that is funny:tro:


I hate not having a pro sports team to root for around here

My boss is from Philly and he told me a story about how the Eagles fans beat up that old man that dresses up as the Redskins indian. He said they got him in the parking lot, beat him to a pulp and then stripped him naked. The guy ended up in the hospital.

Classy fans.

What do you expect? They had a freakin court with jail cells in the Vet. That shoud say it all right there.

They won the game by 2 runs. It is a save. He has blown zero this season. I'm sure every one wasnt 1,2,3.

I've never heard anyone refer to us as Classy. IF you root for an opposing team, stay away from Philly. I :{>: our fans. Best sports fans in the world & DONT mess with us!