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Mike 08-29-2008 09:59 AM

Poor Johnny's got no chance of making it through four years without a sex scandal. His wife hates the Washington life and will be back home nodding off

GBBob 08-29-2008 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
McCain doesnt lack experience, I think that offsets Palin's lack of, of course McCain is the one running for president. In Obamas case he lacks all experience, and I do not believe an experienced vice offsets that.

What's her position on Alaska oil drilling?

Mike 08-29-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
What's her position on Alaska oil drilling?


Is this a set up for a crude joke?

Mike 08-29-2008 10:01 AM

Sarah says "Drill away, big guys"

The Bid 08-29-2008 10:02 AM

Pro which anyone with any sense would be

ArlJim78 08-29-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I understand the pick on one level, but surprised that McCain would choose to neutralize the biggest Obama weakness

it might open up more opportunities than it closes. it kinda neutralizes Obamas change mantra.

it might be a better overall strategy, getting people to want to vote for McCain rather than simply against Obama.

its a gamble that will depend entirely on how well she comes across, and how prepared she is for the big stage.

GBBob 08-29-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
Is this a set up for a crude joke?

lol...unfortunately, my sad-ass mind missed that opportunity.

and she supports all kinds of drilling..both at home (5 kids) and in the fields

GBBob 08-29-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
it might open up more opportunities than it closes. it kinda neutralizes Obamas change mantra.

it might be a better overall strategy, getting people to want to vote for McCain rather than simply against Obama.

its a gamble that will depend entirely on how well she comes across, and how prepared she is for the big stage.

I agree...but man...what a roll of the dice. I'm sure they vetted her but this has to be a McCain gut decision

SentToStud 08-29-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
What's her position on Alaska oil drilling?

She is for it.

Odds on McCain winning: 3/2
Odds on McCain dying during 1st term: 4/1 (age + cancer = 6-7 year life expectancy)

So, right now, this woman has a 1 in 6 chance to be president.

Hopefully, that communications degree from the University of Idaho has prepared her well to be president.

timmgirvan 08-29-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
you might think so, but if you listened to any of the primary debates, Obama sounds completely different when he has to respond to direct questions. it doesn't just flow like it does in his speeches which he basically just has to read.

McCain isn't real fluid either, but he will do fine in heads-up debates with the great one.

Ummm, I think that umm,you know, that Obama needs,uh,like, serious visual aids(read cue cards) to, you know, get his lines straight,umm..you know??:D

Coach Pants 08-29-2008 10:07 AM

McCain/Thebby 08

Mike 08-29-2008 10:08 AM

I'll rein my adolescent humor in, here is an interesting photo of her we won't be seeing from the McCain camp, she has dyed blonde hair and looks like she could be hanging with Paris and Britney:
http://multimedia.thestar.com/images.../277408_13.JPG

ArlJim78 08-29-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I agree...but man...what a roll of the dice. I'm sure they vetted her but this has to be a McCain gut decision

he's the maverick.
It's not a safe choice at all and could either make or break him.

GBBob 08-29-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
McCain/Thebby 08

I could roll with that..

SentToStud 08-29-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
he's the maverick.
It's not a safe choice at all and could either make or break him.

Desperate people do desperate things.

timmgirvan 08-29-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
he's the maverick.
It's not a safe choice at all and could either make or break him.

it's a better choice than the old retreads in the GOP! Remember...we're lookin for a change!;)

Scav 08-29-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

whoa!!

Mike 08-29-2008 10:16 AM

Seriously, has she been vetted?

Gotta be a sex tape

ArlJim78 08-29-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Desperate people do desperate things.

maybe its not desperation, maybe its a bold stroke of genius.

look I'm skeptical, but I at least want to give her a look and find out a bit more. maybe he found a diamond in the rough.

Scav 08-29-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
Seriously, has she been vetted?

Gotta be a sex tape

Gotta be, all about this now. Serious DRAMA!!!

She got a rack or what? the damn internet her blocks images

Coach Pants 08-29-2008 10:18 AM



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Scav 08-29-2008 10:19 AM

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GBBob 08-29-2008 10:21 AM

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Need to borrow some of those icons from Horseplop;)

Mike 08-29-2008 10:21 AM

I'll check her out seriously later on, she just does not look like the typical Republican candidate.

As a left wing ultra liberal, I felt Biden was a good choice for Obama, and I thought McCain's VP would be a letdown if it was any of the choices mostly being mentioned. I must say, McCain has really one upped him here, at least in the drama aspect

Scav 08-29-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I'll check her out seriously later on, she just does not look like the typical Republican candidate.

As a left wing ultra liberal, I felt Biden was a good choice for Obama, and I thought McCain's VP would be a letdown if it was any of the choices mostly being mentioned. I must say, McCain has really one upped him here, at least in the drama aspect

Dude is like 80 years old, his heart isn't going to be able to handle it

jwkniska 08-29-2008 10:28 AM

that ought to shake up those idiots in congress about drilling in alaska. VP candidate from AK that has an ethics reform background ought to drive those flip-flopping b s artist democrats nuts. Also, her approval rating (80%)'s lets see... 8 times the typical crook democrat congress.

I LOVE IT!

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 10:28 AM

What about having a 4 month old son with Downs Syndrome... is that going to add to the appeal or will it be hard for her to deal with both huge responsibilities.

The Bid 08-29-2008 10:32 AM

That has to help

Im assuming shes prolife, and even a prochoicer would respect her stance on profile having a special needs child

GPK 08-29-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I'll check her out seriously later on, she just does not look like the typical Republican candidate.

As a left wing ultra liberal, I felt Biden was a good choice for Obama, and I thought McCain's VP would be a letdown if it was any of the choices mostly being mentioned. I must say, McCain has really one upped him here, at least in the drama aspect


Mike....gotta give you props. I really didn't think people admitted to that kinda sh*t anymore.:D

Mike 08-29-2008 10:34 AM

Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[11][12] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. She admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it.

Mike 08-29-2008 10:37 AM

God, I hate that **** I just smoked, too

Why hasn't Morty weighed in? Is he sitting in his chair, right hand frozen around his member, mouth agape at this shocking news?

jwkniska 08-29-2008 10:43 AM

that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

timmgirvan 08-29-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

thank you for this reality post! Obamas' plans would cripple most Americans.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

sniper showed me this site. I think you need it.

factcheck.org

hi_im_god 08-29-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

wow. sharp analysis.

i'm sure all the pro life hillary voters will be lining up behind this ticket now. that one or two votes may swing the election.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

You don't know what you are talking about. Obama would raise the top tax rate from 35% to 39% and would also raise cap gains from 15% to 20-28%.

Both of those would be for incomes over $250,000/year.

Really, you should learn at least the very most rudimental of the policy positions, if you are going to criticize them.

Meanwhile, there are several tax breaks for middle class families.

It is hard for reasonable people to conclude the wealthy have not benefited disproportionately from Bush policy. And, according to McFossil, if you don't make $5,000,000.00 a year, you are not wealthy.

geeker2 08-29-2008 11:11 AM

On Nov 4th when they count the votes...this is what the Dem ticket will be saying...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M

dalakhani 08-29-2008 11:16 AM

I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...

jwkniska 08-29-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Obama would raise the top tax rate from 35% to 39% and would also raise cap gains from 15% to 20-28%.

Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.

jwkniska 08-29-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...

She's the ONLY one of the 4 (Obama, Biden, McCain or Palin) with any leadership experience at all. None of the others have RUN any area. Legislature, yes, executive office, NO.


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