So now that the majority here seem to not care for either candidate or party, what are we going to do?

That UNITY "08 internet choice ticket didn't produce much, I guess

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I think this country is f.ucked either way. It really doesn't matter who is in office.

you're saying it does not matter who is in office. The same"fkd" result will be the outcome. You're saying right here that elections don't matter. If a Democrat had been in office ,then Scalia wouldn't have been nominated. You then say that the issues the Supreme Court decides (such as civil rights, abortion , civil liberties etc.) aren't as important as other issues. That's only because you take them for granite. Get enough Conservatives on the Court, and see how long you have civil liberties. It won't be for long. They would be like Turkey(block any internet sites they deem offensive...like about 1000...including YOUTUBE ETC.) They'd outlaw abortion etc. Actually I am o.k. with that, but many people aren't. If HEALTH CARE is an important issue to you then how can you say it doesn't matter who is the President? One party wants to do something about healthcare, and the other wants to do very little(other than healthcare savings accounts.) Again, the 2 people running for President aren't close on their views about healthcare. I would think it would matter a great deal which one is elected.

Not entirely true. I also take them for platinum, gold, and silver.

That's called an eggcorn.

acorn= looks like could be a combo of corn and an egg.

granite= cheap rock

take something for granite=take something for cheap rock

take something for granted= doesn't really paint a picture, but people prefer this one...........Slowly it will change to the alternate form. The eggcorn will become the accepted.

Characteristic of the eggcorn is that the new phrase makes sense on some level ('old-timer's disease' for 'Alzheimer's disease').

so we've found your achilles heel...word games! BTW, youtube also yanks conservative stuff from its' site,but there's no lack of crappy music on there!
You get what you pay for,huh? You're always screaming about civil rights,but you don't bring any personal examples to the table. If you think that the Democratic "braintrust" has the answer for healthcare,then you are mistaken! They will bankrupt this country by taxing the very things that make cash move in this country. Bubba Clinton cooked the books and floated the 10bil surplus,but nobody bothered to read the fine print! He gutted the Defense and Intelligence budgets,let half the countrys' secrets flee to China and generally allowed Al Queda to flourish! Yeah... we need more of that!

Amen brother. Everyone makes Bill Clinton to be this great president. He didnt do **** and he didn't do anything about this Al Queda problem eventhough they bombed the WTC (the first time), the US Embassy in Kenya, USS Cole.. and numerous other attacks around the world. Clinton was really nothing special. at all.

Yeah, anyone would look like the greatest president of all-time if they held office in between the terms of the two corrupt imbeciles who came before and after Clinton.

It's like ranking Special Olympic track and field athletes.

since lyndon johnson, we've had ford, carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush. four reps, two dems. but in that time, has the court been 'stacked'? no, and not with more reps in office in the last 30-odd years. altho the president gets to nominate a justice, they still have to get approved. there can't be a stacking of the supreme court, regardless of who the chief executive is, because he isn't the only one with any say in the matter.

That's not true...Except Reagan, and why I'm not sure, President's pick the justice who lines up with their moral beliefs ( because that's how the Supreme Court really affects us) and is still acceptable enough to get passed. If give the choice between Charlton Heston or John Roberts, who do you think will get nominated..It's the lesser of two evils. And yes, it works both ways

then why hasn't it happened? abortion hasn't been overturned, our bill of rights still there, etc, etc. my point was that if the evil (enter party here) ones wanted to stack the court, they've had ample opportunity. yet it hasn't happened.

Because one party hasn't held the presidency long enough to get enough justices on board. If Clinton hadn't won, abortion would be illegal and if Bush hadn't won, concealed carry wouldn't be legal now, and so on..If McCain wins and Stephens retires, watch what happens

WELL, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR FOR THE A-HOLE IN THERE NOW. A LOT OF YOU DID, and you got a lot of fatherless children to show for it. That's right. you, Girvan... Probably another 20,000 crippled up, and mamed. You couldn't do without him, and he has pissed away how much money in that pit? A trillion bucks? McCain was there backing that waste of lives n' money the whole way. For what? Now those people (who he says he is staying there to help) have demanded he set a a date to leave.........and Danzig, you're wrong about the Supreme Court. It's conservative now(as it was when they ended the 2000 election.) It was liberal leaning during ROE V. WADE. If you don't think the court can get heavily stacked, then just wait n' see what takes place if McCain gets elected. There are 2 Liberals that are aging. For sure 1 or both will retire or die soon. The senate can only get a slightly less radical extreme. They can't get rid of the extreme. Bush put his Conservatives on there. Notice that? It was up to him. Wasn't it? Yes. Throw another Conservative on there, and then see what happens. Gunna tip, and tip hard. Al Quaeda tore down those 2 buildings when this a-s-s was in charge. His people ignored information before it took place. Al Quaeda killed 4 thousand Americans, and Bush got another 4 thousand Americans(and counting) killed. Still didn't get Bin Laden. Conservatives are correct on immigration. Most every other country gives value to it's people's citizenship. Not this one. We de-value American Citizenship every time we ignore illegal immigration. Even when his party was right on that issue, this a-hole dragged his feet on it(same as McCain is doing.) War is sometimes necessary. It wasn't necessary this time. History will show he smoked 4k Americans for not a good enough reason. What ever his pathetic reason was, it wasn't good enough. If you voted for this a-s-s, then you gotta share some of that guilt.

Scalia may be an idealogue but he is not a dumb butt.

Clarence Thomas is an absolute disgrace. He is apparently a nice man,
but he is just flat out inferior compared to anyone of the Supreme Court
justices.

You are blathering away about the wrong conservative justice.

I see many positives in both candidates this year.
This is a much more hopeful situation imo, even though
the country as a whole has suffered a large blow
in international prestige, and the economy has been stifled.

As an indepedent, this is a good year for me.
We have legitimate choices.

lol...what he said

Anytime somebody wants to fall back on "both parties s-u-c-k," and "there's very little difference between them." Those who say "it doesn't matter who you vote for." Look back to that 2000 election. You think it didn't matter who won that? Let me tell ya that 4 thousand Americans died because of the way that election went. Simple as that. No, Gore wouldn't of got 4 thousand Americans killed for whatever payoff that Bush thinks was worth them having to die for. Americans did not vote for it in majority(Gore got 500k more American votes.) State majorities is what got this a-s-s in, and got those 4 thousand people killed. They died because of the power of states rights.

I don't believe Gore's sorry he lost. He's making millions off global warming. The president's salary is nothing compared to that.

No, I picked the right one to talk about, because the smarter one can always do more harm than the copycat follower type.

Yes I agree 9/11 happened because of Bush. It only took 9 months to plan it. It wasn't like the previous administration had any idea who Osama was.

"Your party sucks more"! Rabble Rabble Rabble.

This country is doomed for failure with this retarded mentality. GO ahead and pick a side on the short bus.

You're better than sound bites...

You know what's better than sound bites? Supporting the democratic or republican party and being stuck with the belief that there can only be two viable parties.

You know what's also better than sound bites? Spending billions on foreign aid AND BORROWING from China to fund it.

I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

I'm stuck with the belief there can only be two viable parties because that's the way it is unfortunately. John Anderson, Perot, Paul, Nader...nothing....no real support. And those are good people.

but i've been hearing this 'doomsday and gloom' prophecy for years, and it hasn't happened. i dont' see roe v wade ever being overturned, for what it's worth, i don't want it to be. i'm also liberal leaning in that i don't think only heterosexuals should be allowed to enjoy the benefits of marriage.
as for the towers, i think clinton bears a lot of that burden, as he had ample opportunity to get the very guy who lead the charge on that. he did nothing when the cole was hit, he did nothing when bin laden was offered to him. it is in that respect ( as well as others, including the sex scandals) in that BOTH parties are the same type. both pander to lobbyists ( just depends on what type company you are talking about as to who is in who's pocket), both think only their party has the answers. guess what, they don't. neither do i, and scuds, neither do you.
i appreciate some of what obama has to say, as well as some of mccains. i'd imagine most do. and i'd think that most are centrists, yet it is the far left/right who get all the press. but how many of us truly follow the whole party line? i don't, which is why i'm glad i live in a state in which you don't have to declare for one or the other party.

Well said.

On another note, someone from the democratic party should drag Jesse Jackson off of the screen.

I totally disagree with that. The majority of Americans have been against us staying in Iraq as the dead American count has gone from 1000 to 4000 etc. He lost control of both houses of Congress because of it, but he just kept pissin' away American lives. I guess Congress could of stop funding it, but he would of still found a way to stay there. It has happened. You just don't find 4k Americans dead to be as objectionable as some others do. I don't think it was a necessary thing at all. Just his waste of human life...If you are talking specifically about the Supreme Court, they(conservative members of the court) have the votes to do what they choose to do. Lets see what they do when they don't have a Presidential election involved. Like next year. We will see what they do.

yes, i was talking about the supreme court. not sure why you mentioned the war, as i've said more than once that i thought it was a mistake to go back in there. bush completely misunderstood, or chose to ignore, the realities of the situation regarding iraq and iran.
but now we have finally made inroads in that war, and looks as tho we will begin pulling out soon. and that's due to the surge petraus asked for, and that mccain supported-that support at the time had everyone saying mccain was dead in the water as a candidate.
thing is, if you're going to fight a war-and bush is an idiot in that he got us in something we shouldn't have got into, and then he half-assed it--then you have to go all in from the get go. it really has been put on the back burner lately it seems, with dems pretty much ignoring it ever since the tide turned over there.
maybe we can get out of iraq, and turn more of our attention to afganistan, and getting out of it as well.
but iran...that's the issue now, and it's bushes fault it has become one.

also, as for the supreme court....their ruling on the 2nd amendment regarding gun laws was great. as long as they go by the constitution, i think we'll be fine. they didn't get on the court by being stupid.
as for roe v wade..i don't see it getting overturned, and i don't think it should be. i think it's a shame that so many get hooked on just that one issue. i don't think it should be the one deciding factor on who to vote for. imo there are far bigger issues.