I messed up. Not the first time. Nor the last.

I have done it more than a few times on this very
board but you never used the bold type, you
never even noticed.

I bow before the board and ask forgiveness.
(especially since I may have made Morton orga sm)

His voting record is very conservative, but
other items tell me a lot more.

I still want to know why he would have hired African-Americans and put them in top positions on his staff if he truly hated black people. You said that he was not politically correct. So if he wasn't politically correct, then why would he have had people of color in top positions on his staff if he had a strong dislike of people of color?

Now I am pretty sure I did not mention anything about
African Americans. I did mention the Civil Rights, but let
Morton check to see if I lied.

Maybe he had African Americans on his staff to boss them
around, how the heck would I know... I am sure a lot of
racists work with and hire people that are competent. How does
this deliver them from having racists ideas?

Have you ever worked with someone who was highly competent
that you disliked? I have.

Rupert are you trying to work a Limbaugh?
I can play that game if I can remember what I have typed.

If I was a betting man, I would bet that a true racist would not hire African Americans and put them in top positions on his staff. That seems very unlikely to me. It's possible but it is unlikely.

Trying to work a Limbaugh? How so?

It involves joint pain salve and monkeys.....leave it alone.

black people...staff.

just so long as they know their position.

i'm sure he wasn't one of those uppity types.

know what i mean?

I'm out of stick deodorant.

Would he want them to marry his daughter?
Did he consider them his equal?
Would he want his daughter to have offspring with them and become a part of the family?
Would he ask them to join his Country Club?

A yes answer is possible to the above, but highly unlikely based on what I have read.
BTW I did not bring up the racist thing.

but since we are intent on going there...

Trying to make people prove we have been to the
moon when we have no DIRECT evidence, its all second hand.

That kind of job.
It usually is a conservative ploy, but some
liberals use it also. This comes from my vast experience in small talk
at various high society restaurants.

I must go. But look forward to a continutation of
a thread that makes some orgasm, and others sweat profusely.

this doesn't sound like a racist bozo to me.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...187308,00.html

Some weird logic right there.

What if the black office worker has a few autistic family members? Would it still be racist to not want your daughter to marry a guy from a tard family?

What percentage of parents in this country would want their daughter to marry someone of another race? I don't know the answer but I don't think the percentage would be very high. If your definition of being a racist is a parent who would not want their daughter to marry someone of another race, then I would guess that well over 50% of Americans are racists.

There you go. Helms' detractors don't like to mention stuff like that. They conveniently only give you one side of the story.

Based on that story, you would say that he was an extremely compassionate man and clearly not a racist.

Wait a minute.









I thought he adopted Admiral Halsey?

Didn't Jeff Garcia marry a former Playboy Playmate of the year?

I have no idea. Did he marry someone of color? Is he a racist?

PHWEET!!!







That one will cost you 15, Popkins!

what's the call?

Suggestive grounding.

And you're all wrong.






What's the topic again?

that's a remarkably cogent april 2006 article.

i'm not saying he didn't actually write it, but would you like to guess what month and year it was they announced he suffered from dementia?

why is everyone trying to put lipstick on this pig?

To give him a nice kissy-poo?





That's what what I insist on from BrownSugar.

But she's an unconscionably bad lipstick applicator.

I hate black shoes.

apparently more than 50% of americans wouldn't want you to wear white socks with them anyway.

i guess i'm on board with that.

Most parents want their children to have a happy marriage I would think.
Imo the problem occurs when some ethnic groups have cultural differences that do not fit well with other ethnic groups.
A small example:

I will make a large generalization.
In the Hispanic culture, the male is the head of the family, the dominant family member. In many cases I have noticed it is OK (even expected) for the male to cheat on his spouse, but not the other way around (probably true for Caucasians to a lesser degree imo). The women are expected to be very subservient also. I personally would not want my daughter to marry into that sort of situation. One in which she was considered a vastly unequal partner. The COLOR has nothing to do with it.

So are we talking ethnic CULTURAL differences or just purely ethnic COLOR differences?

And yes. If 50% of the parents in the US would not want their children to marry someone they felt great affection for, and had a great deal in common with, based purely on ethnic color diffences, then 50% of the US is racist by my definition.

Maybe I have a skewed view. One of my best friend's daughter has an African American boyfriend from Britian. They have a great deal in common, appear to love each other, and plan to be married. I know the boy well and he is a great kid. The girl I have known since she was a wee lass and I trust her judgement. They know if they have kids they will face problems from people that are intolerant. I wish they were the same color because of the intolerance that exists. But they are not... So they forge ahead.

Then read my post before this.

Someone kill me.





















Oh God!!...HURRY!!

No way..you stay and suffer with the rest of us.

Why do you guys need to put yourself through
the misery? Dont read the posts.

I swear to GOD it works, I tried it.
If I feel inclined to throw up on myself,
after reading some of my thoughts, I somehow
pull it together and...

I stop reading them.

But I will leave them up for others to heave
on. Bulemics dont need food for purging, just me.

pgardn..sorry I wasn't necessarily refering to your thread..I was speaking in general...

but if Morte want to oft himself..I claim dibbs on the CAH-SOL.

Oh but I am.
After I read some of my stuff...

Old people ramble. I am exhibit #1

therapy comes in many forms...

Think Morton may have this one pegged.

Shoot me efficiently.

You asked if we are talking about ethnic cultural differences or purely color cultural differences. I don't know how you can distinguish between the two. They are inter-connected. Why are most people prejudice about a certain race in the first place? It is usually because of their stereotypical views about people of that race. They're not just prejudiced of the group because of the group's skin color. They are prejudiced against the group because they think that people with that particular skin color have certain negative cultural characteristics.

That is pretty much what racism is. It is disliking people of a certian race because of the belief that most or all of the people in that race have certain negative characteristics.

crime rates and irresponsibility among negroes are a fact of life which must be faced.

-jesse helms writing in the ny times 2/8/81.

No I dont believe this at all. I have been to a number of places
that had I been black, I would have not been welcome. I could
have come in with an accent, mannerisms, everything the same
as the people present except color, and I would not have been welcome.
Based purely on color. That is the negative characteristic.
Its that simple.

The two can be very different. Obama certainly does not
appeal to black voters because of his mannerisms.

Anyways, if you want more on Helms look at his thoughts on
preventing the spread of AIDS in the US. He will not go down
as a model of our democratic society, and deservedly so imo.
Its not just race as I already represented with the Contra thing.
The body of evidence is not in his favor imo.



But I understand what you are saying. All you have to do is watch
black comedians who do the white mannerisms, or vice versa.