thanks

just HRTV I guess

sore knee

Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

Oh you got me there. :rolleyes:

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

So what's the deal with his situation in NY? Can he not run in the Whitney or Woodward?

I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

:rolleyes: You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

OK. So by that mindset, no one should've entered except Curlin.

Yes and by that mindset lets completely forget that this is one of the top turf horses in the country and there are much better opportunities for him on grass with a much better payday then what he recieved today.

I just don't see how running for second does anything to improve his chances this fall.

I actually like Einstein's connections running him today...get's a 200 grand paycheck in a still early season plus he gets more black type grade 1 dirt for future breeding. Can't hurt.

Pants,

I think you're off base on this. This enhances Einstein reputation, as Ron said above, in the breeding shed. A prestigous Gr. I placement versus the reigning Horse of the Year. Plus, where exactly is there more money to be made right now in this start that he was ready for? You realize the Manhattan purse was $400,000? So a win there is $240,000 back and the placement here is $200,000. But the Gr. I dirt placement means more than another Gr. I grass win for him.. Plus they saved the ship...

Of course I'm off base. It's not the sport and the horrible direction it's in.

I don't know how these people with ridiculous money not realize they're buying a baby, in part, to a fraudulent second place finish in the Stephen Foster. Hell, they probably won't know who was in the field outside of Curlin.

Gamblers and fans of horse racing, not horse ******* come last again. Why even bother.

More dough for the fen phen plaintiffs

I mostly agree with you CP.

As far as this race meaning more value for breeding, I totally agree.

Einstein beat Barcola and some allowance horses. Doesn't matter what the race is named or the horse that romped away to win. Einstein never competed with Curlin in this race. Einstein is debatably a contender in the turf division, and this was a bit of a risky placement, if the goal is champion turf horse.

If you wanted to make a longshot case for Einstein running here, you could say he is a sound horse, and that running on the dirt could put some speed into him.

Even when the logic is against it, it is hard to root against Einstein/Pitts.

I like how everyone makes a big deal about the quality of fields before the race, but then dismiss it as soon as the race is run in order to diminish the accomplishments of the winners/top three. Yeah - Brass Hat, Delightful Kiss, Grasshopper - I haven't ever heard of them before. Where'd they just ship in from, a Maiden Claimer at Ruidoso Downs?

I just watched real time and the replay from the OTB and thought Leparoux did a lousy job and then a great job on Einstein all in the same race.

Got him hit, wedged and blocked into the back stretch, then made a shrewd decision to save ground and keep grinding away behind the 'tank-like' Curlin, and hoping for the best.

Turns out he got it.

Curlin with his 128 pounds was just a real nice example of class and caliber still being able to grind and gut for a win.

Yeah, he could have run in a 333 K race and picked up the same money for a win

i never have been a big curlin fan... i tryed hard to beat him world cup day... but i am totally sold, and a full campaign this year will put him close to the top of all time greats, because no one over here is beating him... they really should run in the arlington million or the arc, because curlin is a freak, and a huge turf win would only rate him higher all time.... did he even ask him for run today ? i saw maybe one crack of the whip, easy victory... and he can only get stronger off of this

near the top old time? i doubt it.


turf horses run on dirt to try to boost their fee, not the other way 'round.

who not ? i think there is some doubt about if he can even run in ny, so if the whitney and woodward are out, why not the arlington million ? as for all time great... i did say with a full campaign this year, when i say that i mean, todays effort, maybe 3 more races, 1 of the 3 has to be either the ARC or BCC! if he were to do that, he is a all time great legend like myself and chuck simon

welll, if that's as high as you're setting the bar, i'd say he's already there.

lol.....

Did you see the 1973 Man O'War?

time to be serious....
what are curlins plans, i asked this last week ? is the arc in the plans, i think i read, they wont go to the BCC because of the surface, so why not the Arc ?

Has anyone heard anything from the loudmouths over at IEAH? Its pretty obvious who walks softly and carries the big stick. Hopefully Big Brown makes it into a starting gate with Curlin, he may learn something

even if big brown runs again... he will never ever EVER EVER EVER EVer EVER EVER EVER, run against curlin....

IEAH WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO THE POOR HORSE. i doubt they even think big brown could run with curlin

I'd imagine a War Emblem-type end to his career. First, a paid public workout doubling as a "return to glory" in cahoots with some publicity-hungry track (Suffolk, Arlington, Monmouth?) in a preconceived setup of a race ala the '02 Haskell followed by a definitive failure to achieve "greatness" when getting bounced around and crushed in the BC Classic after finally facing a quality-laden field.

The icing on the cake will be if his owners' narcissistic greed get the better of them after a BC loss and, desperate to get a win versus his elders, further humiliate him in the Cigar Mile, the way Coronado's Quest's connections (ie the evil Claiborne Farm junta) exposed his rather modest capabilities (not that he couldn't have improved from 3 to 4) in the final 3 races of his career.

Or he'll just never run again...

I cant wait to see what those buffoons do

Right. Getting to watch a previous year's 3-yr-old standout is an all-too-rare treat.

The Foster was posted on YouTube by 4 different people. Here's one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=foLoLOKfNaA

--Dunbar

Asmussen was quoted saying he wants Curlin's next start to be on turf, either The Man O War, Arlington, or Woodbine...essentially to see if the target of the PRIX DE'LARC DE TRIOMPHE is a feasible one.

All of you ninnies can die in a fire. Until the season is over I stand by what I say.

Relax:cool:

Well, here's hoping he takes to the turf as well as the 1973 winner of the Man O' War did. :) There's never been an American winner of the Arc, has there?

No. I'm not letting Captain Nitpick get his way. The stallion career reasoning is baffling to me. Last time I checked this horse was still out of Spend a Buck.

I just want someone to explain to me from a racing fans perspective how this race can be beneficial to Einstein's racing campaign from this day forward? Will this witch hunt end when he throws in a clunker in the Arlington Million?

Why's he going to run badly in the Million? Because of that super taxing suck-up second yesterday?