Either Big Brown wins this race by 10 or Dutrow is completely out of his f'ing gord.

Tale of Ekati 2...

If I was Zito, I would go RIGHT to the rail with Cool Coal Man now, if Gayego and ET BAIRD are all the way out there, holy christ on this pace....

Ccm 1...

Hell, and Cowboy Cal....WOW

Quick: name the last and only horse to win from the 20 post?

Let's see, are you a football fan?

If so, then the MLS is equivalent to NFL Europe....

...or if you're into other sports, MLS = your local softball beer league...or MLS = The Swiss Pro Basketball League...or MLS = your local club championship in golf.....or MLS = The Jamaican Bobsled Team...

I am a huge soccer fan and haven't watched more than 15 minutes of an MLS game. It is unwatchable.

zero

ALL the speed is from posts 17-20 with the lone exception of Bob Black Jack.

Recapture 18, Gayego 19

It is going to be one bizarre looking break from the starting gate.

Dutrow is (a) a genius for knowing the break won't be as rough with only someone to his left or (b) he thinks he has the greatest horse since Secretariat (c) a sick f*ck who knows he'll get a point more odds with that post!!!

is this a joke??

Pretty sure the answer is c

NO!

i guess it doesn't matter that much, he had a high draw anyway and he has the speed, so might as well increase your chance of a clean break by taking the outside.

Yeah, but symbolically, it's a ballsy move. He said post position wouldn't matter, so he takes what many believe to be the most difficult post.

Why not take the 2 with the complete lack of early speed from the horses in 3 and 4?

I agree with that statement, he has such a big long stride and bad feet, you'd hate to get stepped on or blocked in the early going, but damn 20 is wide...

Especially when the inside was available. You know the three horses immediately to his left are going to gun, why even take the chance?

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now how does post 20 dictate BB's running style? if at all

Has to go, go, go...right?

it seems like it may hint at speed.

the 2 post is more of a sit - in - the pocket position.

20= If he just goes out with natural speed maybe 4 or 5 wide is his best hope? Maybe they will try and go just like in the FlaDerby?

Regardless of whether he makes the lead or not, I'm of the mind that he will have to work way too hard in the first half-mile. His best shot would be to take back, but I think the horse has too high of a cruising speed to be far off the lead.

How is Big Truck 50/1 with none of those other horses over 30/1? I bet at least five horses go off at higher odds. Z Humor is the best bet for longest odds I would think.

Anak Nakal at 30/1 particularly made me laugh. A very lazy M/L by Battaglia.

dutrow took that position so he wont get banged out of the gate..but listening way to much about how fast his horse is.. he will not win

Watch it be a Dutrow-Assmussen box. I'll quit this game if that happens.

After mulling it over, I think that's the motivation. Hey, at least he isn't whining about it...

Horse racing continues to shoot itself in the foot. The Derby and Preakness on NBC. The Belmont on ABC. Breeders Cup on ESPN.

Nobody (general public) knows where to look to find the damn sport anymore. It's only available in specialty press, specialty papers, specialty internet, specialty TV. I know fans who are interested in horse racing, and just realized the Derby is in days. Why? They haven't heard much about it unless they seek it out.

I've started referring everyone (fans, general interest) to The Bloodhorse website. It's got everything for them - videos, interviews, faces on the personalities, the horses ....

DRF on the internet seems near-dead to me - handicapping only. I hardly go there any more. Bloodhorse gets the breaking news up more quickly, more accurately.

someone needs a group intervention.:eek:

ESPN is absolutely effing horrible! ESPN Classic Sports Century was supposed to air Seattle Slew at 7pm. What was on? Effin soccer. They showed the last 15 minutes of Sports Century . Not the decency to re-air it at 8. No. They have to show a bowling movie instead? It's Derby week for crying out loud!
ESPN is absolutely horrible!

http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/2008/...ascar-now.html

There is no way that Soccer has a larger following among Americans than horse racing. You are insane to think that there is some huge following of English league soccer by Americans. Maybe the imports continue to follow but many millions more will watch horseracing this weekend than will watch an entire years worth of soccer.

I know one racing fan that I would've known regardless of racing. I know a handful of soccer fans. Maybe it's a Northeast thing, but racing is totally marginalized and soccer has a decent following here. Go check out ESPN.com, soccer is among the individual sports that you can click on at the top of the screen. Horse racing is in the "More Sports" section. Why is that? And don't tell me it's because it's an international website.. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people on that site are Americans.

Crazy as it may sound, Big Truck has looked really good in the mornings too. I may have to put $2 across on him for shiats and grins. :p

When is the last time a newspaper had a story on soccer. NYC papers dont count because very few people who live there are actually american. When was the last time ESPN had a sportscenter at a Soccer game? When was the last time Soccer was the lead sports story on the news? I know a lot of guys who follow English league soccer, none are American. Soccer has virtually no following of Americans because there is almost zero exposure here. There is a reason for that.

What's funny is you acting like you know from first hand experience:rolleyes:

So because the Derby and Breeders' Cup get some exposure, horse racing is more popular here than soccer?

And what are you talking about "not American"? They live here, right? They watch TV here, right? Do you think sponsors and networks care whether or not they were born in America?

Don't worry, this will be taken care of this weekend. I can't believe my ears.