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Danzig 03-10-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
Not quite the same situation as Bill's. Close, but no cigar.


LMAO!!

Danzig 03-10-2008 08:05 PM

i'm reading the article now...and holy crap, the bastard's married. his poor wife. but at least it's a 'high priced' whore, not some no account street walker.:rolleyes:

Cajungator26 03-10-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
...that's not what you said this morning...

Too funny, Nicole!!! :D

freddymo 03-10-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'm reading the article now...and holy crap, the bastard's married. his poor wife. but at least it's a 'high priced' whore, not some no account street walker.:rolleyes:


I have always liked the street walker...A few things to consider :

1)Street Walkers typically are carrying drugs so you can reload

2)Street Walkers typically have a removeable bridge work since most have been banged around pretty good

3)Street Walker's fees goes down during negoiations and you pay roughly 70% of retail where as these "Call Girls" have a traveling credit card machine that links to some satellite in Russia next thing you know what was suppose to be 1300 became 1900 with a tip..

pick4 03-10-2008 08:19 PM

Hopefully Governor Patterson will be a better governor than his predecessor. He has my support and I hope that every NY citizen who reads this writes or emails your local Assemblyman, State Senator, local US Congressman, US Senator Charles Schumer and US Senator Hillary Clinton demanding that Eliot Spiitzer tenders his resignations of the Governorship to allow the Honorable David A Paterson to assume the Governorship of the State of New York.

State of New York Assembly http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/

State of New York Senate http://www.senate.state.ny.us/senate...ators?OpenForm

United States House of Representatives
http://www.house.gov/Welcome.shtml (enter zip code top left)

Office of United States Senator Charles Schumer http://schumer.senate.gov/SchumerWeb...t/contact.html

Office of United States Senator Hillary Clinton
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/

freddymo 03-10-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think DrugS is failing to take advantage of what Freddy has to offer him.


The kid couldn't claim a car from valet parking nevermind a horse with a future

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-10-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4
Hopefully Governor Patterson will be a better governor than his predecessor. He has my support and I hope that every NY citizen who reads this writes or emails your local Assemblyman, State Senator, local US Congressman, US Senator Charles Schumer and US Senator Hillary Clinton demanding that Eliot Spiitzer tenders his resignations of the Governorship to allow the Honorable David A Paterson to assume the Governorship of the State of New York.
State of New York Assembly http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/

State of New York Senate http://www.senate.state.ny.us/senate...ators?OpenForm

United States House of Representatives
http://www.house.gov/Welcome.shtml (enter zip code top left)

Office of United States Senator Charles Schumer http://schumer.senate.gov/SchumerWeb...t/contact.html

Office of United States Senator Hillary Clinton
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/

I think Hillary is gonna steer clear of this one ;) she's got enough problems of her own.

Spitzy isn't goin' down without a fight, it's his bullheaded nature.....which will be his undoing!

The Indomitable DrugS 03-10-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The kid couldn't claim a car from valet parking nevermind a horse with a future

At least they wouldn't void me if I tried.

freddymo 03-10-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
At least they wouldn't void me if I tried.


I laughed hard that is so funny!

Danzig 03-10-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Aside from the obvious moral implications of a married man doing this, is there a compelling reason why this is illegal in the first place? What if he wasn't married? Yes, it would be illegal, but should it be?

ok, i'll jump...

i don't think it should be illegal.

pick4 03-10-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I think Hillary is gonna steer clear of this one ;) she's got enough problems of her own.

Spitzy isn't goin' down without a fight, it's his bullheaded nature.....which will be his undoing!

We live in a representative republic and it is not only our duty as citizens, it's our right provided by the US Constitution to petition our elected representatives. If people fail to live up to their responsibilties as citizens, our elected officials will respond in kind. When Senator Clinton's office or any other elected official receives enough negative feedback on Eliot Spitzer they will not support him. If you are a resident of NY and you are outraged by Spitzer's conduct. you owe it to yourself and your fellow New York residents to contact your elected officials and let them know that you as a resident and a voter will not accept Spitzer's actions.

Swale84 03-10-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I think Hillary is gonna steer clear of this one ;) she's got enough problems of her own.

Spitzy isn't goin' down without a fight, it's his bullheaded nature.....which will be his undoing!

I'm guessing that Spitzer is trying to cut a deal so he isn't indicted, his resignation will not come until this happens

GPK 03-10-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
ok, i'll jump...

i don't think it should be illegal.


$5,500 for a piece of ass SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!!!

ELA 03-10-2008 08:49 PM

Legal, illegal, married, not married, etc. -- moot discussion. Very interesting perhaps, but moot. The fingers of hypocrisy are certainly very ironic. I wasn't expecting his resignation, but certainly expected the rumors to be flying.

Eric

Danzig 03-10-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
$5,500 for a piece of ass SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!!!

lol

maybe it's gold plated.

Danzig 03-10-2008 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA
Legal, illegal, married, not married, etc. -- moot discussion. Very interesting perhaps, but moot. The fingers of hypocrisy are certainly very ironic. I wasn't expecting his resignation, but certainly expected the rumors to be flying.

Eric

yeah, it is. he ran on an ethics ticket. hilarious. but then any time anyone points the finger and shouts 'sinner'...they better look to themselves, as everyone else will be.

ELA 03-10-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, it is. he ran on an ethics ticket. hilarious. but then any time anyone points the finger and shouts 'sinner'...they better look to themselves, as everyone else will be.

I think along with the "ethics" arrow in your quiver, the "Sheriff" mentality is well received by the public. However, in this case, I kind of remember him (as AG) being involved in busting up a couple of prostitution rings and/or related activities. Not that it makes it better or worse, nor I do think it's an issue as it relates to what he did -- but I guess we will soon see where this goes. While I have no criminal law background, regardless, I am really not sure of the potential "legal" ramifications here.

Eric

GPK 03-10-2008 08:55 PM

What gets me is the arrogance of people like this. Did he really think in the back of his mind "I can do this and get away with it"?

Hell no....deep down he had to think, on more than one occasion, "If I get caught, im f*cked" (no pun intended)

ninetoone 03-10-2008 09:03 PM

"Politicians are like the bones of a horse's foreshoulder - not a straight one in it"

-Wendell Phillips

Danzig 03-10-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
What gets me is the arrogance of people like this. Did he really think in the back of his mind "I can do this and get away with it"?

Hell no....deep down he had to think, on more than one occasion, "If I get caught, im f*cked" (no pun intended)

no doubt he thought he'd never get caught. like one sign i read, the sin is so much greater when someone else is committing it. he was probably appalled that others would engate in prostitution--but since his was such a high price, that's different. no doubt in my mind that he justifed his actions, just like anyone does who knows damn good and well that they're not doing right....but just this one time, or i'm in a hurry, or i have a good reason...makes it all ok-to them. but oh how sorry they are when it comes out. not that they did it, but that they got caught!

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-10-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4
We live in a representative republic and it is not only our duty as citizens, it's our right provided by the US Constitution to petition our elected representatives. If people fail to live up to their responsibilties as citizens, our elected officials will respond in kind. When Senator Clinton's office or any other elected official receives enough negative feedback on Eliot Spitzer they will not support him. If you are a resident of NY and you are outraged by Spitzer's conduct. you owe it to yourself and your fellow New York residents to contact your elected officials and let them know that you as a resident and a voter will not accept Spitzer's actions.

Well said and I agree, but some of our elected representatives could care less what we think unless thier looking for our vote. I'm sure most of them will distanced themselves from him as soon as more details come out. It's the tip of the iceberg and won't be pretty when it's all said and done.

blackthroatedwind 03-10-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The kid couldn't claim a car from valet parking nevermind a horse with a future


Be wary of anyone that strikes out in Saratoga.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-10-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swale84
I'm guessing that Spitzer is trying to cut a deal so he isn't indicted, his resignation will not come until this happens

I'm sure he's surrounded himself with the best "clowns" (I mean lawyers) his money can buy. The best thing he could do is resign by morning and not say a word ever again. The longer this goes on, the more trust of the people will disappear for any politician. This state has got a lot of problems, this crap doesn't help.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-10-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Be wary of anyone that strikes out in Saratoga.

I was committed to Emily at that time....

But, she was banging cops.

blackthroatedwind 03-10-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I was committed to Emily at that time....

But, she was banging cops.


And that makes you smarter or dumber?

pgiaco 03-10-2008 09:35 PM

According to the complaint, Spitzer mentions that his payment will be just like the other times, so there goes the "I only did it once defense". This sh-t is priceless.

Mortimer 03-10-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
...that's not what you said this morning...


^^^ 3 feldpsars.

pgardn 03-10-2008 10:43 PM

He has no business in government.

He cant make up his mind.

Do I break up prostitution rings
or do I patronize them?
It is a very tough question.
Its a moral quandry.

Good lord...

pick4 03-10-2008 10:51 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/ny...agewanted=2&hp

According to this NY Times article, Spitzer used the alias "George Fox" for his rendezvous' with hookers. It turns out that Mr. Fox was a donor and a friend to Mr. Spitzer. Poor George Fox deserves an apology as his good name is being dragged through the mud thanks to his friend.

Danzig 03-10-2008 11:39 PM

ron mexico was already taken...

Danzig 03-10-2008 11:47 PM

i just saw that spitzer is expected to resign. what a jackass.

horseofcourse 03-11-2008 02:08 AM

And Spitzer is important because?? So he is what...the 73,913th politician lacking in a unified moral stance?? This is as big a non-story as Larry Craig's "wide" stance. AS long as they're not involved with minors I could care less who they are "not having sex with!" (or whatever clinton spewed about that!)...who they are having sex with...who they are seeking to have sex with...who they are paying to have sex with. They're politicians...the most corrupt people walking the planet for the most part. It is all quite humorous...you had the Hart's, Clinton's and all the Kennedy's...then recently all the repub stuff with Foley, Craig, Vitter, the guy in Illinois who was married to the Star Trek babe...he was so important I have no clue what his name is...gingrich...the youthful indiscretions of that Hyde guy when he was in his mid 40s!! Now another big democrat in NY down the tubes.

All I know is the one thing about both big time repubs and dems you can count on is these guys are getting massive amounts of non-marriage tail non-stop be it male or female...endlessly.

Today is the first time in my life I ever heard of the guy. Another brain dead politician...wow. Big surprise it has happened once again. I guess if I lived in New York I'd probably care more about it.

So I don't know much about the guy...would this news qualify as funny or sad?? You simply cannot find a non-corrupt politician anywhere. It is a null set. And we get tossed into elections with both sides continually throwing up more curruptness endlessly. AS a nation, whether we like it or not...I think it is going overboard on the endless fascination of who people are having sex with...especially politicians.

Danzig 03-11-2008 06:26 AM

i don't think it's fascination that caught spitzer. i'd think it was more his dumb luck to frequent an illegal business that was being investigated...of course the salaciousness of the illegal business he was engaged in will send this thing off and running.

i wonder if he'll resign today. i think he will. and then he'll need a defense lawyer, as well as a divorce attorney. but maybe he can get the wife to hang around long enough to get the criminal stuff out of the way, for some reason the wife by the side is felt to be a necessity when facing criminal charges.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-11-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
And Spitzer is important because?? So he is what...the 73,913th politician lacking in a unified moral stance?? This is as big a non-story as Larry Craig's "wide" stance. AS long as they're not involved with minors I could care less who they are "not having sex with!" (or whatever clinton spewed about that!)...who they are having sex with...who they are seeking to have sex with...who they are paying to have sex with. They're politicians...the most corrupt people walking the planet for the most part. It is all quite humorous...you had the Hart's, Clinton's and all the Kennedy's...then recently all the repub stuff with Foley, Craig, Vitter, the guy in Illinois who was married to the Star Trek babe...he was so important I have no clue what his name is...gingrich...the youthful indiscretions of that Hyde guy when he was in his mid 40s!! Now another big democrat in NY down the tubes.

All I know is the one thing about both big time repubs and dems you can count on is these guys are getting massive amounts of non-marriage tail non-stop be it male or female...endlessly.

Today is the first time in my life I ever heard of the guy. Another brain dead politician...wow. Big surprise it has happened once again. I guess if I lived in New York I'd probably care more about it.

So I don't know much about the guy...would this news qualify as funny or sad?? You simply cannot find a non-corrupt politician anywhere. It is a null set. And we get tossed into elections with both sides continually throwing up more curruptness endlessly. AS a nation, whether we like it or not...I think it is going overboard on the endless fascination of who people are having sex with...especially politicians.

Well said also... I have the same feeling in general about most politicans, but this guy has been the biggest hypocrite of all and to get where he is, f*cked with the sport I loved.....thoroughbred racing in N.Y. state. He should be exposed as the fool he is to all the nation.

herkhorse 03-11-2008 07:16 AM

An Idiot with a capital I, driven by an ego the size of his forehead.

Mortimer 03-11-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
ron mexico was already taken...



^^^ 2 iron pyrites

Antitrust32 03-11-2008 07:23 AM

at least he only did the best.

better than clinton.

Mortimer 03-11-2008 07:27 AM

^^^ 7 dah-mons!!!

horseofcourse 03-11-2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Well said also... I have the same feeling in general about most politicans, but this guy has been the biggest hypocrite of all and to get where he is, f*cked with the sport I loved.....thoroughbred racing in N.Y. state. He should be exposed as the fool he is to all the nation.

I think the exposure (so to speak!) is in full force!

Coach Pants 03-11-2008 07:44 AM

It's...




I COULDN'T CARE LESS.


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