I'll say it again.....he is being pointed for the Blue Grass.

Let me also add......I would love to give you 2-1 that he runs in the top 3 in either of those races......and you lose if he runs in neither.

Do you really think a horse that debuts on Labor Day and takes six months to make his second career start is 2-1 to make any race in a month?

Well, being that they publicly said before today's race they were hoping to run in the Blue Grass, and then said it again after today's race, I will say he is being pointed for the Blue Grass.

Of course, I don't have a hotline to On.....I mean someone at IEAH...so I will have to trust the public comments for now.

I would take 2-1 on him in either race to hit the board, yes... if I were sure he would make the gate. And I wholeheartedly agree the horse has issues, but remember who we are dealing with here- Dutrow (who could probably raise Lazarus) and IEAH (who are DESPERATE for a Derby starter). IF the horse is healthy, and maybe he is enough to make it two months, he's a legitimate contender.

I would bet everything I have that he doesn't make it past June, however.

You clearly need a facebook account.

... and I need more pics like your avatar, who is that??

I understand he may be under 2-1 to hit the board ( he will most likely pay less than $6 to show ) but even if he's 40% to hit the board, which I don't think, I'm not so sure he's even 40% to make either race realistically.

On your June bet....you'll have to find another bookmaker.

the incredibly elegant Diane Lane.

Oh, and they'd be much wiser to go to the FL Derby, as 3 Derby spots are available versus 2 from the Blue Grass- not to mention the synthetic crap at KEE.

I assume you've seen " A Little Romance. "

Great scenes at Longchamp.

:eek: isn't she like 45? MILF!!!

I think his affinity to turf is probably coming into play. Another problem with putting all your eggs in the Florida Derby basket is what happens when you draw post 12.

Would think the pedigree would lend to the poly but who knows with that stuff?

Draw post 12...scratch and wait two weeks?

and only getting better looking

I haven't Andy. My film experience is not quite up to par with yours. I take it you recommend this one?

It's great. I think it's her first movie. She's maybe 14. Excellent movie. I saw it when I was a kid, it was my dream, Diane Lane falls in love with my equivalent.....a kid obsessed with the movies and the racetrack.

We've found your weakness... Diane Lane :p

As for our bet... I'll buy you 3 beers at Siro's if Big Brown doesn't make a Derby prep and hit the board, you buy me 6 if he does. We have a trade?

... or run him the next day.

If she was only a waitress.

You're on.

I think Big Brown has a chance to win the Arc if he goes.

I'll lay you a 30 pack of beers to my one. They're only offering a case in Vegas on the Arc.

Wire the field?

surely he would lap them.

Too bad the Arc isn't actually a full circumferance of the course.

Big Brown did breeze under-tack on the KEE Polytrack at the April sale last year.

He registered a big stride (almost 26 feet long) - but didn't show a great deal of raw speed - his quarter mile work was in 21.20 seconds.

He was a $60K yearling and sold for $190,000 after that work.

I doubt something like that had much of anything to do with the decision to aim for the Blue Grass - but the horse did get over that stupid surface well enough to think it shouldn't be any concern or excuse.

I need to go over the replays of GP's races today much closer before I come to any strong opinions about this horse.

A 30 pack is about the equal of 3 beers at Siro's

which would make the feat that much more incredible...

please stop this is the most overrated horse i have seen all year

giant moon would run him into the ground

Yes, he's been beating up on Spanky Fishbein impressively.

Ha! Ha!

Perhaps I'm being naive but the fact that IEAH bought into Court Vision and Pure Clan will keep them plenty busy enough on Derby/Oaks weekend to give Big Brown the time he needs. I imagine they'd love a Travers horse too.

I will chalk this up to trying to one-up PG1985 in the craziness department.

I see you didn't spend your time away from here honing your handicapping skills.

I think you are much to harsh towards the management at IEAH.

Most importantly....it's " too. "

They have already said they are running him in the Blue Grass. How exactly does that translate into bringing him along slowly to the Travers?

So, are you assuming the people with IHEA think they have the derby & oaks in the bag?

i truly belive i am a very good handicapper, starting today i will be posting some of my plays, mostly pick 3's and you can tell me how good i am . i do know this i am a legend in the local otb, come down if you dont think its true.
couple weeks i went 9-9 on a saturday aqueduct card, hit early and late pick 4's, but never played the pick 6

union st, schenectady branch

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