Sounds like he has proof to me.

agree ,sounds like proof to me.

He certainly seemed to have an axe to grind against the people he mentioned.

i don't think a lot of people think it's populated by cheats. just that there are cheaters out there, and hopefully they'll start cracking down.
savvy bettors use all info, whether the perception is that a trainer is a cheat or not, they'll use their money accordingly.

DD.. Thanks very much. Not sure how this one will be 'topped'..

BF.. Appreciate your interpretation..

Spyd.. Not necessarily thrilled about being part of the story. Appreciate your view of how I handled the situation.. Thx..

I disagree that there was more to be gained by pressing the situation for further revelations. I'll repeat again that Sirius has been clear with us that they will not be tolerant of another potential lawsuit. Dr. Allday has been the featured vet for the weekly 'Horse Health Today' segment from before I started on the show, and will come on whenever asked. I think after interviewing him on more than 75 occasions, I believe have a good feel for what buttons I can push with him and which I can't. I have asked him on several occasions for clarifications of events which may have involved illegalities, and he answers with extreme caution.

You might want to note that comments like he made Friday would not come on that forum if he didn't have a certain comfort level with the show as a setting for his call. He will say exactly what he wants to say, and if I had to guess what his objective was Friday, I'd say it was to fuel further investigation into the Wild Desert affair specifically. Anything he said or alleged, he will back up with proof. He did offer his records to any authority that wants to see them...

There are few major barns that Dr. Allday has not worked with at one time or another. He works on all of the Pletcher horses.. As well as Dale Romans'. He has done work for Frankel. His comments regarding Frankel were related to him taking on the saddling responsibilities for Wild Desert in the Queen's Plate without knowing much about what was going on and that being slightly irresponsible on Bobby's part.

Appreciate you listening to the show and sharing your thoughts.

He has unbridled respect and admiration for Pletcher as a horseman and the way Todd runs his vast operation. And says so all the time. Which should come as no surprise obviously..

Steve,
IMHO your show is great and the Friday show was no exception....fwiw, I thought that you handled things very well...One comment on the matter is that claiming to have proof is not quite the same as actually producing/providing it...and that still remains to be done...without all the facts it can be a mistake for anyone to rush to judgement.

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Expect more discussion on this. Jason Levine mentioned the link on Equidaily to the show archives this morning on his show.

(sometime during the last 15 minutes of his show) Jason's archives aren't up yet http://www.racingjason.com/

Equidaily:

Friday's show was great, by the way.

Well, Steve, looks like Dr. Allday is increasing your audience numbers :D - have you yet contacted Dutrow's camp, and given them the option to have a statement read, or have someone appear on your show? Or at least to say, "No comment" ?

Steve, stop apologizing to these people that don't have a clue. They are asking you to go above and beyond in a situation that you handled PERFECTLY, especially given the strict guidlines that you have been put on by Sirius, 95% of these people yapping would have dropped their jaw like I did and would have had a fat tongue and just been silent but you keep the flow.

Also, if you need round the clock surveillance, I can be there in 12 hours :)

I can see it now -

Dateline - NBC " To Catch a Cheater" staring Steve Byk.

Can you give a quick overview? feeling lazy today and don't want to look it up on the net

Why the RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure Sirius doesn't give a damn what Steve talks about as long as it doesn't cost them money defending themselves in court.

Can you list Pletcher's problems, please?

I'm not interested in the allegations. Just the positives.

I'm like a bull....red makes me crazy...

He served 45 days for a banned substance he used up in Saratoga which is ironic. Saratoga being where three horses died on him in the same meet including LEFT BANK. Here's the banned substance story below.

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=31402

This is why im not crazy enough to wager the big bucks, crooks like Biancone and Dutrow make you wonder if it actually an even playing field for everyone.

LOL...

But yeah, why the red, it's disconcerting. And CS is going to go crazy and charge.

Riot, since you brought it up regarding vet disclosure which I completely understand, does this situation present any difficulties for Dr. Allday?
I haven't listened to the show yet, am anxious to do so, hopefully today.

I did not want to get into an argument with the operator of the board so I let it go but there is no way the radio station could be held liable for a radio interview in which claims like these were made, now maybe allday could but not the radio station, or a television station or a newspaper.

steve has said that sirius made it clear that they do not want any lawsuits.
you're suggesting he should just ignore those instructions because you are so confident? maybe you are correct that they wouldn't be held liable, but I believe their goal is to not have to put it to the test. its amazing how much free expert advice steve gets here, about what he should do or say on HIS radio show.

Exactly. It is not a matter of right or wrong. It is a pretty small radio show on a pretty big network trying not to make waves as per the big network's instructions.

Well said, it was what I was thinking.

He served 45 days for a mepivicaine positive. That's is not a "banned" substance (as cobra venom is a banned substance), mepivicaine can be and is used commonly in horses, however it cannot be administered within 7 days of a race. The level of positive found in the case in question has subsequently been allowed by the jurisdiction in question. Meaning, the jursidiction has later changed their allowable levels of mepivicaine to include the level at which Pletcher's level was deemed a positive.

It was a positive, it was upheld, he took his days.

You wrote: "Pletcher, who has had his shares of problems and allegations".

So, in Pletcher's very long training career, considering the hundreds of horses that have passed through his various barns under his and his assistants hands, what other "shares of problems" has he had?

Or is the above the only one?

Allegations are a dime a dozen. Do you rank allegations as equal with found positives?

There is no law within the veterinary practice act of Kentucky directly prohibiting a licensee from talking about clients, former clients or their animals and their health concerns.

From a standpoint of someone desiring to sue him for his public statements, or file a complaint with his state veterinary licensure board regarding his public conduct, revealing of privileged medical information as an ethical violation, etc., he's on his own.

Edit: obviously he feels supremely confident that will not be a concern

It's not of question of winning such a confrontation.. It's a question of trying to avoid what is involved in such an entanglement. We do not have the financial resources to engage in legal disputes of this nature, and Sirius isn't interested in a show like ours creating those headaches for them.

Why is this so difficult for anyone to understand? There have been two prior incidents and it's been made clear to me by my associate John Perrotta, and by Sirius, that we can't afford a third.

Hopefully something like this won't hurt the show. I look forward to the 3 hours every afternoon.

I would not renew my Sirius if the show were gone.

surely you aren't suggesting something untoward about left bank? he had colicked in the past, and had some of his intestine removed. a repeat attack is what killed him.

3 dead horses within 11 days... nothing at least slightly suspicious about that? None died on the track, all due to "illness"...
I'm not guaranteeing, or even advocating foul play, but I would guess there was no deep inquiry into the deaths, by an unbiased group (none exists in racing).

Dont you think that the insurance companies that paid off these claims investigated them?

Fair point, I don't know, but would assume so. I was thinking of an investigative body in racing, who might be better versed in the likelihood of this happening to 3 horses under the care of one trainer in such a short period of time.
If 3 human athletes being coached or trained by one person died in similar circumstances, I believe there would be well-warranted suspicion.

The colic certainly should not come under suspicion because of his previous problems. The colitis X is not that uncommon. Warners brought the most questions because he had recently run a freaky race far out of character and there was never a reason given concerning his death.

Cant really compare this to humans becuase horses die from things that humans easily recover from. Also the fact that he trains over 200 horses makes it less unusual than a guy who has 20 and the same problem.

They all ran freaky races.

Freedom's Daughter dueled in an insane pace and drew off like a machine and Left Bank's Whitney was a devastating performance. He sat off a Jerkens horse who set a ridiculous pace and destroyed Street Cry among others. Street Cry was coming off his blowout ( and 122 Beyer ) of Congaree in the Foster.