At least Woody had the sense to hit the
kid in the neck and not the helmet.

Yes. I would give him the one punch round.
Poor Woody. They just herded him around after
that. Poor ole guy with big thick glasses and dementia.

HE was pissed all that year...it was his last and they made him give up the triple option offense and play freshman future convict and multiple felon Art Schlichter that year and start throwing the ball. Earle Bruce got hired immediately after that game and he and Art spent the next 3 years betting the ponies extensively!!

That's all I was saying. Thank you for agreeing J.

Are you talking about Ohio State or Boston College?

Not to bring up the irish but this is hilarious

http://likeseriouslywtf.blogspot.com...hristians.html

Now that is laughable...

Why? Neither one of those teams have played a, as you said, "real top ten team". So what is the difference between them and USF?

Yawn...

You are right, Elon, at Auburn, UNC, FAU, WV, UCF, Rutgers, UConn, Cinci, Syracuse, L'ville, and Pitt are as scary as....

Wake, NC St, UMass, Army, Bowling Green, at GT, at ND, at VT, Fl St, at Maryland, at Clemson, and Miami...

and...

Youngstown St, Akron, at Washington, Northwestern, Minnesota, at Purdue, Mich St, at Penn St, Wisconsin, Illinois, and at Mich...

Sorry, but if I wanted wins, and not of the quality kind, would take the USF schedule any day (espically down the stretch!)...

These Johnny Rebs don't follow classic lines of logic.


Don't forget...they are the man in the gray suit.

So you are saying that playing ND, Wisconsin, Penn state, Miami, Ga Tech is tougher than playing Cincy, Louisville, or Rutgers ? Have you seen any of the above teams play lately? Auburn and WV are better than any teams in the Big 10 or ACC with the exception of Ohio State. Illinois QB is hurt, Purdue cant stop anyone, VT is one dimensional, FSU is average at best, Michigan is spotty...
The case can be made that the schedules are pretty close to even but there is no way that anyone can say that OSU or BC's schedule is tougher than SF's. Maybe in a traditional sense but the fact is that the 'midmajor' type teams like Cincy and Rutgers are a lot better than their history suggests. The smaller teams have caught up and with spread offenses and scholarship reductions and the fact that almost every major conference game is televised means that kids can go to a mid major type and play and get exposure as opposed to the old days where they would rot on a big teams bench.

Sorry, but I respectfully, and emphatically disagree that Cincy, Louisville and Rutgers are scary.

OSU and BC play tougher schedules, espically down the stretch. The Big East gets credit for still being a tough conference, but I think they are the worst of the BIG Conferences. I wish Clemson was in the Big East! It would be much easier to play Syracuse, Cinci, Rutgers, UConn, etc. WVU is tough, and I give USF, and the coaching staff credit. They found a way to beat Rich Rodriguez, and Rich hasn't found a way to beat USF.

USF is not a top 10 team, just like Rutgers wasn't last year. They should be treated the same way a Boise St or Hawaii should...good, very good, but not great.

That said, I truely agree with the statement in bold! As I have said before in this thread, I love the parity in College Football now. Any good team can beat a very good team on any Saturday. It makes it more enjoyable. However, just because you play well for 2 important games, and beat up on inferior teams the rest of the season doesn't make you #2 in the nation. I hope USF goes undefeated. Then they will get blown out in a bowl game, and we will all bitch about how it was boring, and they didn't belong. Put the USF in the SEC this year, and they are middle of the pack. I would even go as far as to say they wouldn't win their division in the ACC. They are good, but not top 10 in my mind.

ARyan I hope you don't gamble on college football because you are clueless. It's laughable.

I see you are a millionarie due to your wagering, and no, I don't gamble on College Football...

Winning a point spread bet is much much different the playing straight up...

You have shown your true genius once again....

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY!!!!

To be fair, I don't think it is logic, just opinion.

However, OSU or BC would beat USF 9 times out of 10 this year, IMO.

Sorry, but I don't fall in lust with these flash in the pan teams...(See Maryland in 2001, Tulane in 1998, Utah in 2004)

I say 11 out of 10.




Thems yella dogs!!

Yes and my last wager was a moneyline bet as well as a few others including the BCS championship last year.

Your points are meaningless because you highlighted Michigan State and Purdue as tough teams and excluded Auburn. You're about as useful as s.hit in a diaper.

YER YELLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

42-14

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How Do You Make Any Money Sir!!!!?

By not agreeing with morons like ARyan. Shame on you.

Well now you've made me feel bad....you have hurt my feelings.






The ladies of the board love me.......they are going to be very upset with you.

I wouldn't want to be you today.

I didn't exclude Auburn, I even have said that the win versus Auburn was impressive.

Wow, you don't read and comprehend, you just jump at any single sentance...

Thanks for bringing this thread down...

Good luck with your bets...

Yeah, I am the moron.

I am not the one bragging about winning so much money...

Why do you have to prove yourself to strangers? Mommy and Daddy never give you the attention you needed growing up?

Just stop posting about football. Or anything else.

Yes God...

Must have hit a nerve with the Mommy and Daddy comment...sheesshhh

Why not just put me on ignore? Thats where you have been put!

*poof*

War'd he go???







ror!!







He is a VERY bad man!!

Godlike almost!!

Good thing I am an atheist...

The only nerve you hit was the one in your anus with a mold of Tommy Bowden's cock.

Clemson - At least we won the Bowden Bowl

i agree with this for the most part but, rutgers is built like a big 10 team (slow) and usf is more like a sec team. both play good defense and run the ball. wvu is fast and soft with a 2 man gimmick offense. louisville is all offense but doesn't run the ball real well and couldn't make a stop if they had to.
the acc is ok but average from top to bottom and teams look good or bad from week to week.
usf is easily a top 5 team right now. not everybody walks into aubarn and wins and they just plain whipped the barners.

You win. My opinion has changed. Your logic has won me over.

The funny part is if S.FL loses to Louisville or Rutgers. then it shows the Big East is weak. But when LSU gets beat by KY then it shows how strong the SEC is. The same KY team that needed at last second blown coverage to beat Louisville. It is 2007 guys. The SEC and Big 10 are not going to be able to raid places like NJ and NY for the best players anymore. USF is going to continue to get a bunch of good FL players. Like it or not the Big East is going to get better and better. Look how far they have come in so little time.

That is all you need to say.

Thank you sir.

Let me ask you this though, for S&G...

Do you think Rutgers or L'ville can beat UK or LSU? I honestly don't. Could they beat USF, I think so.

I do not think that Big East football is as good as everyone makes it out to be. Sorry, I just don't buy the hype...

When they win some major bowl games, consistently, then I will give them the respect everyone wants to give the conference and teams. I just see them racking up 9-3, 10-2 records and then getting beat in the big games in December and January (Not the Papa Johns Bowl, International Bowl or Texas Bowl).

Also, don't get me wrong, USF doesn't belong playing in the Papa Johns Bowl this year, but they don't belong in a BCS either...

I just feel it is harder to go 9-3 in the SEC or ACC or Big 10 or Big 12 then going 9-3 in the Big East...

Just my opinion, I do not think anyone is going to change anyones mind on this. Its fun to debate, but when people like Mouth Troll go nuts, it just makes discussing this annoying...

Like Louisville beating Wake Forest, a team you had in bold, last year?

The conversation gets ridiculous because you're in it. You have no one to blame but yourself.

I think he just punished himself.

Louisville has beat Uk every year for a while, pounding the hell out of them on a couple occasions, and had them beat this year until a blown coverage in the final seconds. No excuse but they are clearly as good as UK. LSU is the best team in the country supposedly but I saw first hand how good they really are. Good team with a diverse offense and a lot of speed on defense. But I have no doubt that USF could give them fits and I have no questions that Louisville would put up 30 pts on them. The difference between the top 50 teams is not that great.

I think that the SEC is the single most overrated division or conference in sports. They are a good conference with a lot of good teams but they refuse to schedule tough non conferences teams, almost never on the road and when they do, often they lose. The SEC as a conference is 7-4 in non conference "legit" games. The only 11 games against teams that are semi legitimate they are 7-4, mostly in close games. ol miss escaped Memphis, UK went to the final minute against Louisville, Alabama held on against Houston, SC struggled with UNC...There are some mandated games left in which the SEC schools are far from locks . Ga Tech/GA, WV/Ol Miss, SC/Clemson, FL/FSU, Vandy/Wake are all games that could easily go in the favor of the non SEC team. In fact they will probably only be favored in 2 of them.

Of course the tradition and all that crap may matter to someone and certainly influences voters in the polls but the reality out on the field is that the SEC is not nearly as far ahead of everybody else as its boosters may realize.

The West is clearly stronger in the NBA, The AL is stronger in MLB, The AFC is much stronger in the NFL. The SEC is not nearly clearly better than the other major conferences, though the Big Ten appears to be a shell of its former self...

I cant say the SEC is overrated when no other conference has the depth and quality they do. Name one conference that has the depth and quality of the SEC? Maybe just maybe the Pac-10 thats it. So you can call them overrated, but none of the other conferences come close.

If you answer the Big East I will throw up.

The Big 12 draws the vast majority of its players out of Texas. So the pool is diluted a great deal.

The Big 10 is still playing defense in 3rd gear, except for Ohio State.

The ACC has some really bad teams. But I would rate them below the Pac-10.

SEC... thats it. They get the best players from all of the southern states that are football crazed. From Florida to Texas.