Were the blessed event to occur, I thank God and Man o' War that I'd have to board nothing more exotic than my old jalopy in order to attend...assuming I could get seats.:rolleyes:

I'm sure Yankee Trails would work out a bunch of buses up from NYC to Saratoga for the BC. Plus the irony of a Yankee Trails bus full of Englishman would be delightful.

We wouldn't go anyway, to cold. We like heaters and big screen tv's after Sept 3rd.

Why couldn't they just limit attendance at Saratoga? Really no big deal on the weather. Chance of bad weather can't be worse than Chicago or Toronto. There's no Gen Admission at Monmouth. What are they capping attendance at? I assume they capped attendence at Lone Star.

I honestly hope that is a joke...

As far as I know there is general admission at Monmouth for $50 but you have no seat. I could be wrong about that.

There was not an attendance cap at Lone Star, as the temporary seating expanded the overall capacity. Because of the location and the amenities available, it was not a popular destination for most people and so the attendance stayed so low.

The weather bug is always a tricky one, on BC day at Lone Star it started around 65 degrees but was in the mid-80s by the afternoon and that really drew the ire of out of town guests.

For those of you who were talking about out of town tellers also, I was a teller at Lone Star is 2004 and there were a bunch they trucked in from Gulfstream and other places. They paid them a flat rate and it was good.

For those of us who worked the full meet the daily pay was $500 for BC day.

NT

That's funny. God do I wish you were right....just this once.

When I was up there, it just didn't feel that hot to me...

I live in Orlando, though... it's blasted hot here so anything below 90 feels like winter. :D

The lowest it has gotten here since mid-May is 77 degrees. Once the low hits 70 deg, you'll see the down jackets in Ft Lauderdale and the fur coats in Palm Beach.

It's kinda funny, though...

I actually like the cold weather. When I heard people complaining in Toga about how hot it was, I had to laugh. Florida feels a lot hotter to me, so it was a nice change up there for me.

If the Red Sox and MLB can hammer out the logistics of Fenway Park hosting the All-Star game. Then there is no reason The Breeders Cup comm. and NYRA can't figure out the logistics of Saratoga hosting the BC.

I'm not saying put it in the rotation but at least once, they can do it. There is no other track that deserves hosting more than Saratoga.

That's funny. God do I wish you weren't a prick...just this once.

For some reason, I hear the words

Never happen

I hear that. And, I won't wear my fur coat down here until it gets down to 65 degrees. I do have my standards.

I'd love to see the Breeders Cup in Saratoga. The logistics, the weather, and the lack of closed spaces are exactly the reasons why it doesn't happen.
Could many people brave a 50 degree day? Sure, but even 50 and sunny isn't always the case. That time of the year it could swing either way at least 20 degrees. Imagine 50,000 fans braving a 35-40 degree day? It's just too much of a risk to run it there. BOSWD, you know me, you, and many others could hack sitting out in the picnic area on a cool afternoon, but the majority of the people aren't going to want to do that. In regards to the weather this summer, I went to the track six times and five of those times it was at least 90 or better. Opening day and especially Whitney Day were quite warm and muggy. Drank a lot of beer. Good times.

My belief is that it is NYRA who would be at the top of the list of those who don't want Breeders' Cup to come to Saratoga.

What became more apparent in the past year was the affection that the local community in the Capital Region has for NYRA. That would be eroded if Breeders' Cup comes to town. Breeders' Cup takes over the show completely. $50 General Admission. Probably either not allowed to bring anything in or vastly limited. Concession prices ramped up 50-100%. The local community will feel completely frozen out and will blame NYRA.

They can't limit attendance much below 45,000. The original criteria-they may have altered them in recent years-is that you should provide permanent/temporary seating for 45,000. I would think that would require the construction of around 30,000 temporary seats.

Bad weather would be an issue. There's so little inside space-especially in the Club House.

Pricing out the local community is also a big issue.

Which animal?

it wasnt bad opening weekend, but the majority of the meet was extremely hot. Couple that with working in between a grill and a steamtable.. I was praying for rain most days but it never came.

By far the "hottest" Saratoga meet I've ever witnessed in the past 10 years I've been going.

Ya know its bad when you cant tell the difference between saratoga and florida some days!

faux jackazz.

I hear you but I thought it was overall the coolest meet of the 5 that I have attended. Travers Day was awful and 1 or 2 others but there surely can be no comparison to the 4-5 day period of last year that was centred around the abandoned Wednesday.

that is true... I was at Saratoga last year for a week or two but not during that hot period, so I guess I cant judge.

The thing that sucked most this year was that it didnt really cool off at night that often. I'd rely on opening my bedroom windows to get a nice cool breeze because the air condition in the house was not that strong... and I did not get that cool breeze a lot of nights, it was just hot and sticky and its no fun to sleep in those conditions!

wasn't there that 1.5 to 2 week stretch where it was in the low to mid 70's? It was the two weeks leading up to The Travers. It was very very comfortable weather during that stretch.

We played Bingo in St Clements Church Hall on the hottest night last Summer. You had to get there about 3 hours before play started to be by one of the fans on the tables :rolleyes:

A picnic table for 6 (and no more)....$1000
A picnic table for 6 next to the Big Red Spring....$1500

Just for those who said it is far too cold up here to host a BC...

http://www.weather.com/weather/weeke...nav_undeclared

Outside of the 50% chance of Rain, high of 70 on Saturday dosen't seem too bad...

Actually, its been off and on. Almost a frost the other morning, and then some days top out at 75. Then last night I had my windows and sreen doors open because it was so nice.

The weather up here is always a crapshoot, I don't think its any more warmer this fall then the last few years I can rememebr. Look at Sunday in that forcast, 54 high. Like I said, its a crapshoot. I have lived up here for almost my entire life, and some falls you won't see a snowfall (till January), and others it snows in early October.

I guess my point is that anywhere in the Northeast (Toronto to Monmouth to Belmont) you are going to be hit or miss on the weather. You can't count Saratoga out because of it. On the flip side, it really has no indoor seating, and that is probably one of the biggest issues with it for the BC. If you do get a cold, rainy day, where will the attendees go to seek shelter?

I just hope I can squeeze into some shelter tomorrow and Saturday at Monmouth...

Wow out of all of the smart people on here (granted I havent read all the threads) but there is a reason the BC is not held at Saratoga. There are up to 14 horse fields in each race of the BC and the Saratoga track is not wide enough to accomodate 14 horse fields. Along with the sharp turns on the grass, Saratogas "racecourse" is whats not big enough. Not the stands.

I do not agree with this at all. I think you are flat out wrong. Look where it is being held this year.

By the way, your first sentence is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

Width of Belmont stretch: 100'
Width of Saratoga stretch: 100'

Q.E.D

It'll never happen. Belmont is fine.

They should hold the BC in warm weather venues only.
2008 - Santa Anita
2009- Sunland Park
2010- Turf Paradise
2011 -Calder
2012 - Fair Grounds
2013 - Fairplex

I'm in for the fairplex trip.

I forgot Zia

do they have slots there? sign me up if they do

i nominate ruidoso downs as a potential venue as well...

Interesting to note the forecast Saturday for Saratoga Springs is exactly the same as for Monmouth, 70 and raining. It isn't the weather that is preventing it from happening, it is the logistics of moving the whole NYRA operation up from Queens and then back down for four days of racing when there is already a perfectly good venue for NYRA to host it at Belmont.

Whats a sentance?????????? Anyways it is the reason, its fact, not my guess that its the reason. Saratogas turf course will only accomodate 10 horses not 14 dummy. The turns are way too tight. Once again this is not a guess.