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Indian Charlie 09-12-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I just don't see how he can be blamed or should feel ashamed for the way he handled Tiz Wonderful.

NT

i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?

Danzig 09-12-2007 08:28 PM

no way am i surprised at this turn of events. as for assmussens 'past' i'd say it's his present as well. he finished serving his six month suspension earlier this year, not as tho it's ancient history.
as for Tiz W, he should have been brought back slowly, i thought this from the moment he made his comeback vs the top 3 yo colt in the country. what happened to taking it easy, to bringing a horse back a step at a time? we all know that it's a dicey proposition bringing a horse back from an injury, and that too often the horse isn't quite the same. so why the mad rush to put him right back in top company? what happened to building slowly, regaining confidence along with a fitness level and mental edge?? i wouldn't hire assmussen to housebreak a dog or litterbox train a cat. absolutely disgraceful!

Danzig 09-12-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?

you have a magic eight-ball too?!

Sightseek 09-12-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...) :eek:

Hours and hours of watching the sales videos so she knew that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday were finished by their strides in the Tampa Bay Derby? :D

Thank goodness Dee-Tee didn't hire her as a consultant.

Danzig 09-12-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Hours and hours of watching the sales videos so she knew that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday were finished by their strides in the Tampa Bay Derby? :D

Thank goodness Dee-Tee didn't hire her as a consultant.

i'm a consultant...so....;)

The Bid 09-12-2007 08:33 PM

Why the mad rush? Because he had about 2 races left blocked and stocked, thats why. This horse had a very serious injury, not a little tendon, he was really f'ed up. I understand the busienss involved, but at sometime human compassion and common sense are supposed to trump greed.

SniperSB23 09-12-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Why the mad rush? Because he had about 2 races left blocked and stocked, thats why. This horse had a very serious injury, not a little tendon, he was really f'ed up. I understand the busienss involved, but at sometime human compassion and common sense are supposed to trump greed.

And f'ed up and all he still made EZ Warrior his b!-otch. Hope he's still with us and hasn't become an insurance casualty.

The Bid 09-12-2007 10:48 PM

EZ Warrior may be one of the worst hype jobs of the 21st century. That and DW Lukas with Flying First Class, are the two worst this year

Indian Charlie 09-12-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you have a magic eight-ball too?!

in the spirit of the game, i use a ouijia board.

Indian Charlie 09-12-2007 11:38 PM

in all fairness to ezw, he was ridden by the king of all moron jockies, david flores.

i cant say he was going to win, but i have no idea why he just sat still on him almost the entire way around the track. truly weird.

then again, i only saw the race on youbet. i'll have to watch it again on CR.

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-12-2007 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
it looks like your god has abandoned you.

Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..

Indian Charlie 09-12-2007 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..

oh brother. is that the best retort you have for me, threatening me with violence?

let's see here. you start off stuff with me by talking crap, you and i team up to embarrass you, my posts were all right on the money, and you come back with threats?

hey, maybe you and chevy chase can kick my ass!!

shoot man, now i won't be able to sleep for days, knowing you are out there gunning for me.

Coach Pants 09-13-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..


King Glorious 09-13-2007 01:06 AM

I wasn't too concerned with the level of competition Tiz Wonderful was brought back against. It's my feeling that either a horse is physically able to run or he isn't. If he isn't, don't run him, no matter who the competition is. If he is, run him, no matter who the competition is. Now, if they were looking for a win, it didn't make sense to run him against Street Sense or any other top 3yo. But if they thought he was physically back to the level he needed to be at to compete, I have no problem with the level of competition they returned in. The competition is not going to reinjure him if he's not ready. The conditions of the race will. My problem would be with the decision to run him at 9f first out of the box.

Left Bank 09-13-2007 04:33 AM

article on the race
http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=40763

Danzig 09-13-2007 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Translation: I was wrong and you were right, but I cannot admit it, because it would tarnish my internet image.

well, anyone who would invoke the almighty for a horse to win...let's just say i'd rather bother the old man for something like world peace. but that's just me!

The Bid 09-13-2007 08:01 AM

Im sure pleanty of us have asked for the lords intervention to get a horse home at some point in time. Undoubtedly it fails everytime and to keep the faith I always think God must not want me gambling.

Bobby Fischer 09-13-2007 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
They are both a bit of a question mark to me. Is Tiz done, or did he just need a race? Why the hell did they put him in the Dandy?? Can EZ get 8 furlongs? Can EZ break cleanly for once?


i actually had that goofy exacta 1 and a half times for my $10 (4,5/6) (5,6/4)(546bx)


cheap horse with heart "stuntman" was the logical alternative to the favorites. Flashstorm is so cheap but i planned for him to at least go out and make the big names quit... Flash didn't do $h!% but it still worked out.

blackthroatedwind 09-13-2007 08:54 AM

Nothing like a good old fashioned redboard to stop a thread in its tracks.

Turn and Count 09-13-2007 09:11 AM

EZ can't breath, (possibly genetic problem?). They just want to get through this year before he goes to stud.

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-13-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Translation: I was wrong and you were right, but I cannot admit it, because it would tarnish my internet image.

um.. where exactly was I wrong smart guy??

I said I HOPE he wins.. don't believe I ever once said he was going to.

I did just fine at the window on that race so all of the rest is irrelevant.

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-13-2007 11:38 AM

can't win can I

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
I did just fine at the window on that race so all of the rest is irrelevant.

yeah, sure you did.

even if you did though, which i highly doubt, i'm glad you put such a lack of importance on tiz miserable's welfare.

i keep liking you more and more!

one other thing dude. do you expect that in anytime during your stay on these boards, you will ever post something either interesting, relevant, insightful, funny or even just plain ole non-useless?

do you even have opinions that don't involve being sour?

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
can't win can I

try going back and reading every post you've made, and then tell me why people on here shouldn't be giving you a difficult time.

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-13-2007 11:46 AM

TAG TEAM! TAG TEAM!

can I get a partner?

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Wow a redboard too.

i personally believe him. i thought that was the easiest and most formful superfecta i've ever hit, myself!

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-13-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
i personally believe him. i thought that was the easiest and most formful superfecta i've ever hit, myself!

that's actually pretty funny

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
TAG TEAM! TAG TEAM!

can I get a partner?


good dude, your sense of humor is improving!!

i'm not sure though that anyone would partner up with you. your best hope, ronnie, seems to have come to his senses.

can anyone help emmett out here?

Emmett Fitz-Hume 09-13-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
good dude, your sense of humor is improving!!

i'm not sure though that anyone would partner up with you. your best hope, ronnie, seems to have come to his senses.

can anyone help emmett out here?

actually, I'm fat enough.. I count for two..

HANDICAP MATCH!

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmett Fitz-Hume
that's actually pretty funny

thank you.

:) :o :D :cool:

my miss storm cat 09-13-2007 12:59 PM

Update, BH....

Tiz Wonderful Suffers Suspensory Injury in Stakes


by Karen M. Johnson

Tiz Wonderful, a graded stakes winner and undefeated 2-year-old last year, suffered a career-ending and potentially life-threatening suspensory injury and is being treated at New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa.

Tiz Wonderful was vanned off the track Sept. 12 after finishing second in the More Than Ready Stakes at Belmont Park. The injury occurred in his right hind leg.

Scott Blasi, an assistant to Steve Asmussen, Tiz Wonderful’s trainer, said the horse was transported to New Bolton at 5 a.m. EDT Sept. 13.

“There are no fractures,” Blasi said. “There is 90% damage to the suspensory outside and 75% on the inside. They have put a Kinsey splint on him to stabilize the leg and to get some connection in the tissue.

“It’s a day-by-day process; the next four or five days will be critical as to how he adjusts to the Kinsey split. With any of these injuries, especially in hind legs, you worry about laminitis.”

Blasi said Drs. Liberty Getman and Michael Ross from New Bolton are attending to the 3-year-old.

Tiz Wonderful, owned by Stonestreet Stables, won three races from as many starts last year, including the Iroquois Stakes (gr. III) and Kentucky Jockey Club Stakes (gr. II) at Churchill Downs. A son of Tiznow, Tiz Wonderful’s record is 3-1-0 from five starts, with earnings of $254,672.

Because of a tendon injury, Tiz Wonderful did not race this year until July 29 when he finished sixth in the Jim Dandy Stakes (gr. I) at Saratoga.

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 01:07 PM

assholes of the highest order.

King Glorious 09-13-2007 01:08 PM

This was criminal.

Coach Pants 09-13-2007 01:14 PM

Off with their heads!!

Ronnie 09-13-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

one other thing dude. do you expect that in anytime during your stay on these boards, you will ever post something either interesting, relevant, insightful, funny or even just plain ole non-useless?

do you even have opinions that don't involve being sour?

Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black....

Cajungator26 09-13-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Update, BH....

Tiz Wonderful Suffers Suspensory Injury in Stakes


by Karen M. Johnson

Tiz Wonderful, a graded stakes winner and undefeated 2-year-old last year, suffered a career-ending and potentially life-threatening suspensory injury and is being treated at New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa.

Tiz Wonderful was vanned off the track Sept. 12 after finishing second in the More Than Ready Stakes at Belmont Park. The injury occurred in his right hind leg.

Scott Blasi, an assistant to Steve Asmussen, Tiz Wonderful’s trainer, said the horse was transported to New Bolton at 5 a.m. EDT Sept. 13.

“There are no fractures,” Blasi said. “There is 90% damage to the suspensory outside and 75% on the inside. They have put a Kinsey splint on him to stabilize the leg and to get some connection in the tissue.

“It’s a day-by-day process; the next four or five days will be critical as to how he adjusts to the Kinsey split. With any of these injuries, especially in hind legs, you worry about laminitis.”

Blasi said Drs. Liberty Getman and Michael Ross from New Bolton are attending to the 3-year-old.

Tiz Wonderful, owned by Stonestreet Stables, won three races from as many starts last year, including the Iroquois Stakes (gr. III) and Kentucky Jockey Club Stakes (gr. II) at Churchill Downs. A son of Tiznow, Tiz Wonderful’s record is 3-1-0 from five starts, with earnings of $254,672.

Because of a tendon injury, Tiz Wonderful did not race this year until July 29 when he finished sixth in the Jim Dandy Stakes (gr. I) at Saratoga.

I hope he's going to be OK. :(

The Bid 09-13-2007 03:47 PM

Hes not going to be okay. Its disgusting

Indian Charlie 09-13-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
good dude, your sense of humor is improving!!

i'm not sure though that anyone would partner up with you. your best hope, ronnie, seems to have come to his senses.

can anyone help emmett out here?

Ha! Shows what a moron you are dude, thinking he came to his senses!!
He probably was serving time for a couple of days for tipping the local sheriff's cows.


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