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Past Post 07-02-2007 10:10 PM

When I form this group its goals are winning money not just having fun.If I want to have fun I can go to a carnival.Like I say before,if this takes off and its show a profit along the way,there will be alot of riders coming aboard.Like I said I will come up with an idea to make this happen and work.

Scav 07-02-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Okay, maybe not every single bet, but honestly Scavs within the last few months I have really tried to curb my tilt playing. I see what you are saying and of course you risk to get paid, but don't you risk on your opinion? I trust my opinion, although it has been piss poor lately. This is all semantics. Like I said, good luck to whoever gets in on it.

Sure you risk on your opinion, but they way you stated it was that there was no risk in this. My guess is that you could go two years before hitting this, but just imagine if a total of 100 people had 20k invested into a syndicate, and today was the day that you nailed it, for 600k+, pipedream yes, but minorly possible

Some days you go for the guster, some days you go for the hit. Today I spent $216 and I went for the hit, the most logical way and I got gots, I'll guarantee you if I had 3k to drop on this bitch today, I could have gotten to the final leg, but I doubt I would have had that 9.....

Coach Pants 07-02-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Scavs people need to be aware of who they can and cannot trust. The vast majority of the people on here I would be very comfortable with. Sorry for the interjection. But there are people who do not honor obligations. Carry on. It is an interesting thread and I apologize.

Nobody said Bid would be in charge of the money did they? Then why bring it up? That stuff is for PM's.

The Bid 07-02-2007 10:13 PM

Youre a goddamn buffoon PGA, probably the biggest on here for some of the dumbshit youve said in the last few threads.

I mean its a joke, and it is for a PM, but this guy doesnt even know me well enough to send me a PM. Hes completely off base. I expect an apology from this clown, welching a hundred dollar bet, you think Im 12?

Scav 07-02-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I totally understand the point you guys are making. I'm just looking at the other aspect of it. All I am saying is this is the internet and while we are all "friends" there is little to no accountability.

Both Steve and Chuck have accountability with the agreements that people signed do they not, it could be the same type of thing. I have met neither of them, but I trust them

pgardn 07-02-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Listen buddy, the deal was taken care of, just because you dont know the particulars is no reason to get shitty or stupid.

I cant even get into the most ignorant part of your message telling me if I cant handle the hundred I shouldnt bet it.

Sorry Scav, I cant take it on the 100 dollar welched debt. Its got me steamed

If you FINALLY paid up I apologize. And if you did not pay this will come out. You are welcome to PM me and tell me what I dont know. I would be most happy not to have to type any of this, believe me. But when someone does not do what is right, I go ballistic. This is a very basic honesty issue. And again, where in the hell did I say in this thread anything about 100 dollars? YOU brought this amount up. Must be on your mind.

ArlJim78 07-02-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
When I form this group its goals are winning money not just having fun.If I want to have fun I can go to a carnival.Like I say before,if this takes off and its show a profit along the way,there will be alot of riders coming aboard.Like I said I will come up with an idea to make this happen and work.

okay then, you've got the ball. Lets see what you come up with. I like your positive attitude. It will work!

philcski 07-02-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
So you paid? You admitted yourself you did not pay up. Did you forget?
Or just "I will get to it?"

I would feel guilty as hell if I were you. Somewhere along the line people have to be able to trust one another. And then you come along. Dont put up money if you cant pay. Just keep your mouth shut if you cant come through. Everyone on this board should pressure you to DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

Completely unnecessary. I know Bid well, he's a good friend of mine, and you don't know the end of the story so I'd recommend you stay out of it. Why you brought it up is beyond me.

The Bid 07-02-2007 10:20 PM

Dumbest **** Ive heard in my entire life, giving me a headache.

Scav 07-02-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I never said there was no risk. My point was there is risk and when you mix money and friends and stuff it can be a sticky situation that is all. Look at what a supposed bet between 2 people has caused in this thread. I just foresee an instance where someone wanted to include a horse and others didn't, and that horse costs people a pic 6. You think everyone is going to be happy with that? I realize I am bitter and a pessimist, I guess I am not as trusting as some. I have been on DT for over a year and trust only 3 people enough to give them my phone number.

I couldn't agree more, that is why you have 3 people making the decisions and the others as investors, no say whatsoever. Tons of people buy into that players pool on Americatab, and none of them have any say in the tickets.

Honestly, I have enough dough to do big tickets myself so I have little to do with this, I would rather live and die with my own decisions. I don't listen to anyone (Ask ArlJim about Saturday when he loved a horse, but that horse had Laviolette on him, he was much the best by about 20 lengths and I still wouldn't play him)

philcski 07-02-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I never said there was no risk. My point was there is risk and when you mix money and friends and stuff it can be a sticky situation that is all. Look at what a supposed bet between 2 people has caused in this thread. I just foresee an instance where someone wanted to include a horse and others didn't, and that horse costs people a pic 6. You think everyone is going to be happy with that? I realize I am bitter and a pessimist, I guess I am not as trusting as some. I have been on DT for over a year and trust only 3 people enough to give them my phone number.

A 3rd party accusation from something a long time ago randomly inserted into this is pretty petty IMO.

Part of a syndicate is give and take and there's times when you leave off a horse that someone else wanted, and I can guarantee to you- being in the situation before several times- no one feels worse than the person who left them off. Some people's personalities can't deal with it, no shame in that.

pgardn 07-02-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Completely unnecessary. I know Bid well, he's a good friend of mine, and you don't know the end of the story so I'd recommend you stay out of it. Why you brought it up is beyond me.


The maybe you can explain why he admitted making an agreement, then admitted he had "not gotten around" to making good on the agreement. I read it right here on this board. Maybe you would like to explain this. PM me. I would never ever trash anybody on this board, IF I HAD NOT READ IT FOR MYSELF. He admitted not getting around to making good. I READ IT FOR GOD'S SAKE. Maybe it was another poster with the same screen name. So MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM MISSING... I KNOW WHAT I READ. PM me so I dont have to play the bad guy.

All I want is honesty. Thats all. So clear it up for me. And others who read what I did.

Mortimer 07-02-2007 10:27 PM

But I will be happy to volunteer my services for the money holding portion of this admirable endeavor.








As it's always been said........



...you're in good hands with Featherhands.

The Bid 07-02-2007 10:28 PM

This guy must be the muscle doing the shake down for a bet that was handled how it should have been handled. In private.

Why this guy feels the need to step into someone elses business is mind boggling. For you to say I cant afford the hundred really shows what a moron you are.

Scav 07-02-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands
But I will be happy to volunteer my services for the money holding portion of this admirable endeavor.








As it's always been said........



...you're in good hands with Featherhands.

While I have never responded to anything you have ever posted, this was actually a good post...Congrats on your first one....

The Bid 07-02-2007 10:30 PM

Nobody owes you any explanation on a bet you werent part of.

Past Post 07-02-2007 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
A 3rd party accusation from something a long time ago randomly inserted into this is pretty petty IMO.

Part of a syndicate is give and take and there's times when you leave off a horse that someone else wanted, and I can guarantee to you- being in the situation before several times- no one feels worse than the person who left them off. Some people's personalities can't deal with it, no shame in that.

Maybe the best way would be to post the the selections and the cost of the ticket and let them decide if they want a percent of the ticket.Rules would be posted of course.

Scav 07-02-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I was just trying to show that the internet isn't the most trusting place.

I agree with what you are saying, but this is a little different, after the opening weekend, I'll know 90% of this board......

Mortimer 07-02-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
While I have never responded to anything you have ever posted, this was actually a good post...Congrats on your first one....


Hey dewd...can't thank ya enough there.




I mean that's a little hypocritical coming from a known welcher ....but gosh, mighty white a ya.

Mortimer 07-02-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I wouldn't trust Featherhands. I gave him my phone number and he put it up in every bathroom in Ohio.


Whew!




I thought you were going to say this was my first good post.

pgardn 07-02-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
This guy must be the muscle doing the shake down for a bet that was handled how it should have been handled. In private.

Why this guy feels the need to step into someone elses business is mind boggling. For you to say I cant afford the hundred really shows what a moron you are.

Where in the fck did I say you cant afford 100 dollars? Where?

All that needs to be done is to PM me. And explain what I READ FOR MYSELF. People need to be very careful. Some people find it very easy...

PHIL. Tell what the timeframe on not following through on an agreement is? PM me please. You dont know how bad I am hoping things have been set right. It would give me a little more faith in people.

I would love for all of you guys to get this done. And have a great time doing it. I would love it even more if you actually won. Careful.

Coach Pants 07-02-2007 10:39 PM


Mortimer 07-02-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm still waiting for your first good post.


Thud



ror!






You get in the Tom Foolery thread and say that!

The Bid 07-02-2007 10:43 PM

Dont put up money if you cant pay. Just keep your mouth shut if you cant come through. Everyone on this board should pressure you to DO WHAT IS RIGHT.


The bet was 100 dollars, you question my ability to pay a hundred dollar bet? You have any idea how much I got grabbed for on here? You have any idea my background, or what I do, or my assets, or worth? Do you have any idea if the bet was paid, do you have any idea of any of that?

This isnt your bet, debt, or otherwise, I suggest you mind your own business. Youve already proven to be a fool

pgardn 07-02-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Dont put up money if you cant pay. Just keep your mouth shut if you cant come through. Everyone on this board should pressure you to DO WHAT IS RIGHT.


The bet was 100 dollars, you question my ability to pay a hundred dollar bet? You have any idea how much I got grabbed for on here? You have any idea my background, or what I do, or my assets, or worth? Do you have any idea if the bet was paid, do you have any idea of any of that?

This isnt your bet, debt, or otherwise, I suggest you mind your own business. Youve already proven to be a fool

WTF are you talking about? I dont care what your background is. I dont care if you are destitute or a millionare. Tell me you are honest. All you have to do is EXPLAIN what you posted, WHAT I FRIKKN READ. ANd what I read was it that you would get around to fullfilling your obligation. That you would get to it. Like it was unimportant. That you just forgot. Lets get this straight:

IT AINT ABOUT MONEY. ITS BASIC HONESTY. THATS ALL IT IS TO ME.

You go off on this ability to pay thing... I dont care. Just follow thru on obligations. If you have done so, fine. Update me. Because I know what I read.

whodey17 07-02-2007 10:57 PM

I like the shares idea. That is always the best way to go. However, if the max shares a person (other than a leader) can own is 5 shares at $50 bucks a share, then who decides how many shares we are going to spend on a particular pick 6? If there is a total of 200 shares or $10,000.00 then do we wager 75 shares on this pick 6 today or 100 shares or what?

This could work with a little bit of work and a little bit of trust and some good nature honesty. Good thing about this is that sometimes I dont have time or the desire to play ever single large carryover. I think it would be very cool win or lose. $200 a year is not that big of a deal in comparison to how much I spend on pick 6 carryovers throughout the year.

The Bid 07-02-2007 11:02 PM

I dont owe you an explanation on anything. Last time I checked you had nothing to do with the bet, how the bet was paid, when the bet was paid, or anything else that involved the bet. Why dont you just mind your own business and not worry about the particulars. If Booey wants to clue you in on it, he can do that.

Youre out of line, off base, and really a buffoon for questioning me on anything. Whether I paid it, have the money to pay it, or welched it is none of your business.

Mortimer 07-02-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
I dont owe you an explanation on anything. Last time I checked you had nothing to do with the bet, how the bet was paid, when the bet was paid, or anything else that involved the bet. Why dont you just mind your own business and not worry about the particulars. If Booey wants to clue you in on it, he can do that.

Youre out of line, off base, and really a buffoon for questioning me on anything. Whether I paid it, have the money to pay it, or welched it is none of your business.



It was Scavenger what told Mr. Garden on you.




I wouldn't put up with bull phooey like that from him.

Get serious and give him a taste of the long knuckle!

They straighten right up after that very first application.

Mortimer 07-02-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I agree with what you are saying, but this is a little different, after the opening weekend, I'll know 90% of this board......

The thing is though..







.....90% will know you.


Can you really risk that ?

pgardn 07-02-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
I dont owe you an explanation on anything. Last time I checked you had nothing to do with the bet, how the bet was paid, when the bet was paid, or anything else that involved the bet. Why dont you just mind your own business and not worry about the particulars. If Booey wants to clue you in on it, he can do that.

Youre out of line, off base, and really a buffoon for questioning me on anything. Whether I paid it, have the money to pay it, or welched it is none of your business.

THEN DONT FLIPPIN POST ON A BOARD ABOUT YOU WILL GET AROUND TO IT... JUST TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU MADE IT PUBLIC. DO YOU GET THAT. YOU MADE YOUR OBLIGATION AND LACK OF FOLLOW UP PUBLIC.

and this just pisses me off because good things can happen on boards like this when people trust others because honesty is the rule. this kind of pik 6 stuff might actually work if there is some trust. Dont ruin it.

The Bid 07-02-2007 11:19 PM

**** yourself. Dont tell me how to handle my business. What I say to someone else doesnt concern you. You had nothing to do with it, and still dont. I cant waste anymore time on you, youre a buffoon.

Mortimer 07-02-2007 11:28 PM

Oh I think we all know Mr. Dillinger is no longer with us.



But the funny thing is I ran into him at the CheapWhiskeyDancer Bar here about 4 years ago....sat down right next to me.






He did.






So I says....."Hey....aren't you John Dillinger?"


He replied that he was,but asked I didn't tell anyone.


I apologized for bugging him and promised I would not.





Not tell anyone that is...I already had promised not to bug him anymore.







But after a while my intellectual curiousity got the best of me.







It did.





I leaned over and said..." Pardon me Mr. Dillinger......but aren't you dead?"




He said....







..."Why....yes. I am."








I just smiled knowingly and sort of melted into the backdrop of the bar.




I think the thing about this is people don't always appear to be dead even though they well may be.






This is contrary to what ya might run into here and that is why I bring this up.

Antitrust32 07-02-2007 11:45 PM

i wish there was an emoticon for tears in eyes


that was so touching morte'

robfla 07-03-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
The maybe you can explain why he admitted making an agreement, then admitted he had "not gotten around" to making good on the agreement. I read it right here on this board. Maybe you would like to explain this. PM me. I would never ever trash anybody on this board, IF I HAD NOT READ IT FOR MYSELF. He admitted not getting around to making good. I READ IT FOR GOD'S SAKE. Maybe it was another poster with the same screen name. So MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM MISSING... I KNOW WHAT I READ. PM me so I dont have to play the bad guy.

All I want is honesty. Thats all. So clear it up for me. And others who read what I did.

Its not like me to even get involved with something like this and I certainly dont know any particulars, but I can tell you first hand from personal experience that The Bid has to be one of the most honorable people I have ever met.

And if you were not involved in the wager why stick your nose in now based on "something you thought you read". And why, even if it was true would you bring it up on a public forum. Thats what PMs are for. gfy

unassailable08 07-03-2007 01:31 AM

Are you all sure
 
that you would trust me? although im fairly new, I think next time we have a big carryover like today that we should already have a forged plan ready in case.

I would trust my Pick 6 money with anyone here b/c I know any of us screwed any of us over you would be shunned from the entire community.

Next time I would love to put in some money getting a pick 6 ticket together.


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