I would think mental illness most definitely does 'discriminate' against occupation.[/quote]


Last time I checked people of all walks of life suffer from mental illness.

Yes, of course. I would expect that some occupations correlate far higher than others to incidence of MI.

If he was mentally ill, like you claimed, then why didn't anyone in his profession notice? Why aren't there mental evaluations of these wrestlers in the WWE and WCW or whatever the **** abbreviation it's under? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at that list and see that something doesn't add up.

The fact is the WWE/WCW/NAMBLA doesn't give a fu.ck about anything but money. And taking measures to protect their entertainers is a waste of money to them because they can just go out and hire another meathead to hug another meathead for 5 minutes and charge thousands of meatheads $50 to watch it.

Mental illness is too often used as an excuse. Could it be some humans are just plain evil?

I am by no means a wrestling fan........Cant tell you the last time I even watched it. But to sit here and point fingers as to who is to blame is senseless, the bottom line is that it is a HUGE tragedy regardless of who he was or what he did for a living. At the end of the day 2 innocent people were taken senselessly

Agreed. But what explains the suddeness of it? If someone is evil in this manner wouldnt it have reared its head a along time ago?

It certainly is scary when you see other stories like this of seemingly normal people who just 'snapped' one day.

That seems to be the american way lately. Lets not try and figure out why..lets just mourn for the dead and then forget about it all a few...oh look Paris Hilton is out of jail...oh oh a butterfly!!!

Isn't that the truth..you should have heard the stories in the ethics seminair I had to sit through the other day!

I absolutely agree it needs to be figured out why, but unfortunately I don't know if there is an answer. Our society has been dealing with individuals and cases like this for a long time, but have never come up with a concrete explanation. It is one of those things that may never be figured out, we do not know what goes on inside ones head when they have gotten to this point.

I could give a rats ass about PAris Hilton, in the big picture this incident puts things in perspective and shows how irrelevant someone like her is.

Did he all of a sudden become mentally ill? Fact is some need the excuse of mental illness so as not to cast judgement. We now all know he was Canadian so medical coverage obviously was not the problem.

Here's the latest, and as I suspected a suspicion of him being an abuser has come to light.

This didn't come out of nowhere. What sickens me the most is the guy had the capacity to call in work and blamed it on his son coughing up blood.

I also agree that we need to find answers, but blaming folks never solved much...in the end, if the stories are true and he killed his wife, son and self, then he and he alone is responsible. To say it's McMahon's fault etc is useless...why didn't others see the signs? Well, how about those postal workers who suddenly snapped or the kid at Virginia Tech? After the tragic event, using 20-20 hindsight, there are always "signs" to point at but the simple fact is that human beings are complex and most folks have a hard enough time keeping their lives together let alone seeing signs of trouble in others. The best way to proceed is to forget about pointing fingers and seek the answers where ever they might be!

I am not sure what his behavior had been like, obviously only those real close to him knew what demons he was fighting. I am by no mean a doctor. Evil? Mentally ill? We may never know, but whatever it was sure is ashame!

Absolutely!

In other words, the beat goes on and more wrestlers will perish under the care of Vince McMahon.

Whatever made what happen occur, it's very sad. It's difficult to imagine what could lead a man to do what he did.

Pillow,
Not to jump in, but I think you are taking Somerfrost's general point and trying to make it specific.
I think SF is looking at the "big picture", and I think he's on target.
I am not a "mental health professional", but what little I DO know is that mentally stable people do not commit suicide, nor do they kill their wife and son. This whole thing is very tragic.

Benoit is a sick man, what the hell. I don't care what Mental Health problems you have, take them out on yourself and kill yourself, not your wife and 7 year old son.

steroid use can make one very short tempered, correct? who knows, maybe things were bad, she called and said don't come home, and he snapped. hell, there's a past there--how many here have had a restraining order against them? tony and i have known each other over 20 years, no cops to this point, and i sure don't anticipate any!

Yes it can. And if you suffer from depression it will only make matters worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Benoit was a manic. That with the combination of steroids would equal a deadly combo.

Kind of a vicious circle... if he did in fact have mental problems, it's not like he could control who he took it out on.

More details coming out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2917133

OK Dr.Pillow Pants...Benoit was sick we know the story now, BUT every public figure can have the same thing happen to them if they choose to do drugs or are sick. You don't like professional wrestling...FINE. But this can happen in all walks of life. IT'S TRAGIC AND ONLY MR. BENOIT IS TO BLAME!

Since you seem to find steroids so appealing, you might want to think twice about using them.

"Steroids have been linked to the deaths of several professional wrestlers in recent years. Eddie Guerrero, one of Benoit's best friends, died in 2005 from heart failure linked to long-term steroid use.

The father of Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig blamed steroids and painkillers for Hennig's drug overdose death in 2003. Davey Boy Smith, the "British Bulldog," died in 2002 from heart failure that a coroner said was probably caused by steroids."

Ok Dr. Hoff, calm down. Nobody is going to take away your right to watch half-naked guys hug each other.

RKO is a fine a$$ mother fugga. Other than him, I've never been that interested in wrestling. Hulk Hogan is pretty funny, though. :D

Look, I'm not gettin' in a pissin' match with you, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, what ever it is!

Hogan knows best is a train wreck. Poor guy is a body slam away from being in a wheelchair the rest of his life.

I know I am.

GOOD! I'm not having a good day and my dad is going in for major surgery tomorrow. :( Sorry if I seem a "prick"!

HHH: Prayers for your Dad and you tonite! I lost my Pop in a car accident and really didn't get to say goodbye! Take Care

[quote=Hickory Hill Hoff]GOOD! I'm not having a good day and my dad is going in for major surgery tomorrow. :( Sorry if I seem a "prick"![/QUOTE

Wishing the best for your dad.:)

Hope he makes it through the surgery ok.

Best wishes Hickory.

why yes he is....

I'll say a prayer for you hickory, good luck and I know everything will go fine.

Thanks everybody...it's gonna be a long day tomorrow

Good luck with your Pops... I'll keep you guys in my prayers.

Now, get to bed! :p

In the end, the list Pillow posted tells the story. It is a staggering number of under 45 years old deaths in this industry. These are disturbed individuals for the most part who either by themselves or encouragement from their bosses regularly abuse their bodies not just minorly, but a massive amount through drug use. This combined with the partying lifestyle. And we are having caniptions about the piddling steroid use in baseball. Yet, noone cares about the ridiculous abuse in comparison these guys go through.

Hey, McMahon is a great American who used the system to make massive amounts of money building his empire. Who really cares how many young men and women die in the process, right?? I guess they fill our superhero need so it's all good.