Wow, this group did a lot of running. :rolleyes:
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

The risk of breakdown is constant. Believe it or not horses even get cast in their stalls. They are fragile, but this is a sport. By definition it means to compete.

Breeding wise it is hard to imagine Silverbulletday was better suited to the Belmont than Rags to Riches.

Silverbulletday, while an extremely nice filly, beat up on a lot of subpar fillies in the spring of '99. In the Belmont that year there was a pretty decent cast of characters, including Charismatic bidding for the Triple Crown. That was a fast running of the race and clearly Silverbulletday wanted no part of 1 1/2 miles.

NT

Who are you to call me names? I'm pointing out the facts and I'm every bit as much entitled to state my opinion as you or anyone else...I never called Pletcher "dumb", you don't win as many races as he has and be dumb, I merely stated my damn opinion and asked if maybe he's getting despirate for a classic win. I presented historical facts and even the PF's which indicate why he IS considering the race! Just cause I don't agree with your point of view, you call me a wuss...back at you, wimp!

How did it hurt her?

The problem is the two best colts both are bred to go the mile and a half and look like they will relish it.

The rest of them? Not so much.

Do you think her leg broke because she was racing against a colt?

No, her leg may well have been injured coming out of the gate (there is some evidence that she struck the metal as the gate opened), it was a tragic event that I suspect had little to do with who she was racing against.

I heard the lads will be offering her to the sheikhs at the end of the season as a peace offering:D

I don't know, you'd have to ask her! Seriously though, I think SBD was a good example of a filly that many thought was better than the colts (Charismatic was not that highly regarded going into the Derby) so her 7th place finish is an example of a top filly going against colts. I agree the breeding is different (SBD vs Rags), but the Belmont has a history of favoring speed types.

I'd like to be there for the handoff

The question still hasn't been answered of where a better spot to try colts would be.

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

I know what you are saying but it would make a great storyline if SS loses the Preakness or even if he wins, it adds to the intrigue.

Ohio Derby

No way.. Birdbirdistheword might show up there.

All I know is if Street Sense beats Hard Spun in the Preakness in a very close race, and both of those show up in the Belmont with Rags to Riches that would be one of the greatest shows horse racing has ever put on.

Silverbulletday was bred to get a distance though...Silver Deputy out of Rokeby Rose, she the daughter of Tom Rolfe (C,P) and he the son of Ribot (C,P), SBD's DP=6-1-9-0-6, DI=1.10, CD=0.05, that screams distance/stamina!

I have no doubt that Birdbird could have kicked Cowtown cats ass in the Derby!!

That was the point of busting my own balls. The 3YO fillies are horrifically bad this year...

but a great one runs next Friday ;)

Silver Deputy is not a 1 1/2 sire
awd of 17 crops 6.82 furlongs

I was just going to point this out....

you are slipping....

I agree with that, but again...I'm one who believes that a horse gets stamina MAINLY through the dam...and that dam side is pretty solid...when was the last time you saw a top horse with six points in Professional catagory?

piss off... I'm sick

Roman has Silver Deputy's AWD at 7.85....

that's (I believe) the average MAX winning distance...while the number chck gave is his overall ave. winning distance.

No.
My point was these horses are not machines and there can be alot to lose.

And the risk of her breaking down is greater against boys than against fillies?

I'm with you. As bad as I want to see a Triple Crown winner while my knees are still young enough to take all the jumping up and down I'd be doing, it would be really cool to see a filly take the Belmont.

You aren't really entitled to your opinion here Somer....

Possibly slander here!!!!

LOL...still smartin' from that beyer thread? Hey, it's not often that someone gives me the opportunity to call them a wimp! How can I pass that up?

I think if a filly can set the pace against the colts she could wire. The boys won't want to pass her.

hahaha, I'm not smarting too bad. just worried about being served a summons.

I think I'll drop it, that last one was in bad taste.

I give you kudos for the retort and not crying to mods to have this taken down. The real point was not to demean you in any way personally, but rather to poke a stick at your conservative approach.

The very best stock is unfortunately owned by a small group of people. These people, ass was stated, are the only ones who can afford what she hass already become. They will not let her pass into the others hands and frequently race therir own well-bred stock. The financial up/downside to them is really minimal.

I would applaud them for taking a chance on where they enter. Believe me, if this were a colt they would likely take your conservative approach.

I hope she runs!

it's a shame that whenever it's mentioned that a filly might face off against colts, ruffian is brought up by someone!

why not mention genuine risk, or ouija board? lady's secret? winning colors?

as tho the fact ruffian was facing a colt somehow increased the odds of a breakdown. how ridiculous--so much for using your head, emotional responses are always so much more interesting.:rolleyes:

I agree with that for the most part, when Go For Wand broke down it was a bit ironic (as well as very tragic) because she had been considered for the BCC and the owners opted for what they thought was a "softer" spot...unfortunately, they couldn't forsee what turned out to be a head-to-head duel all around the track with a talented and tough as nails older filly! The concern is always that when champion horses exert to the max they will run through warning pain often with tragic results, 12 furlongs will require max effort for this filly...I'm sorry but I'd wait for another spot!

Still waiting for that other spot.

The time to do it was in the SA Derby. That was a golden opportunity. The next best time to do it will be after the TC in the Haskell or WV Derby. Something like that after the TC has watered down the ranks. Or in a race like the Ohio Derby. The Kentucky Derby would have been the shot at immortality. Not the Belmont. The Belmont is an irrelevant race nowdays. What would she prove by winning it? That she's the best 12f 3yo in the country? Who cares? I would rather prove that I'm competitive with the best 3yo's at a distance that matters. I would not run in the Belmont.