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tycharles01 02-01-2007 03:48 PM

Its not betting against Invasor it finding out the 2,3,4th place horses

No one who has any knowledge is gonna put WIN bets on him at 3/5 however a ton of people will have him as top or 2nd in tris and supers

So remember

#1, key with???

Buffymommy 02-01-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000
so let's say invasor is 2/5 or even 1/5 and some horse like AP Arrow is 15/1. ap arrow is still not a good bet. this horse has never won a graded stakes race. are the odds really only 15/1 that he will win the race. NO!!!!! it would take an act of god for him to win.
i'm all for finding a good horse at a price....but there are times (like this) when the entire field is so overmatched that it doesn't even make sense to look for value. there isn't any.


oh come on he will be like 1/9 or worse. We are talking about the HOY last year who is only four techically.

Cajungator26 02-01-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000
i completely disagree. one of these bums is going to pick up a nice paycheck for second place.

This is what you said:

"why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor"

Danzig 02-01-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tycharles01
Its not betting against Invasor it finding out the 2,3,4th place horses

No one who has any knowledge is gonna put WIN bets on him at 3/5 however a ton of people will have him as top or 2nd in tris and supers

So remember

#1, key with???

yeah, the trick is hitting the ex and tri--but if invasor wins, they won't pay much either.

avance2000 02-01-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
We are talking about the HOY last year who is only four techically.

exactly! so why do you like hesanoldsalt in this spot?

avance2000 02-01-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
This is what you said:

"why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor"

right. what is your point exactly?

Cajungator26 02-01-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
yeah, the trick is hitting the ex and tri--but if invasor wins, they won't pay much either.

Obviously I think that Invasor is the clear winner here, but there's a chance he may not like the track, etc and if that is the case, there could be some money to be made.

Buffymommy 02-01-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000
exactly! so why do you like hesanoldsalt in this spot?


He's a Broad Brush baby who getting better at four. :) Hee hee. Just going for the money.

avance2000 02-01-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Obviously I think that Invasor is the clear winner here, but there's a chance he may not like the track, etc and if that is the case, there could be some money to be made.

i guess this is where we differ. i would never bet one horse to win, if i thought a different horse in that race was "obviously the clear winner."

tycharles01 02-01-2007 03:59 PM

Wont Pay much??? It wont pay 100 or more per buck but you should make a nice profit


Strong Contender will be 2nd choice and no way he even hits the board. Most likely will be looking at 2 15-1 or higher and a 5-1 in Magna Graduate to round out the super

Cajungator26 02-01-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000
i guess this is where we differ. i would never bet one horse to win, if i thought a different horse in that race was "obviously the clear winner."

Would you bet a higher priced horse WP? That's what I plan on doing.

avance2000 02-01-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Would you bet a higher priced horse WP? That's what I plan on doing.

if you want to go that way with the race....i would load up on the place part of the bet and keep the win part in the $2 range.

Antitrust32 02-01-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
LMAO

I'll take my chances. :p

Lori,

I can't make it down, unfortunately... I have my son this weekend. Last weekend was his Dad's weekend to have him, so it worked out.

I am sure your son would enjoy the races! He has to learn how to read the racing form someday :)

Cajungator26 02-01-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I am sure your son would enjoy the races! He has to learn how to read the racing form someday :)

Very true... but the idea of almost 4 hours in the car with a 3 year old doesn't appeal to me. :eek:

Maybe I'll get lucky and you guys will call me to let me know how the horses look? :cool:

dr. fager 02-01-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Maybe I'll get lucky and you guys will call me to let me know how the horses look? :cool:

that'd be really nice of them....wish someone would've come through for me.:p

lemoncrush 02-01-2007 04:21 PM

I'm fully aware of the Invasor prep for Dubai angle, but we're talking about a horse who is 9/10 lifetime, and should be able to jog home beating this weak field.
Chatain looks nice, but with 4 lifetime starts, I really doubt he'll be able to shake free of Invasor.
And it is a terrible betting race, but who is going to complain about a single in the pick 4, or the Magna 5?

Not me.
:o

Danzig 02-01-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Obviously I think that Invasor is the clear winner here, but there's a chance he may not like the track, etc and if that is the case, there could be some money to be made.

very true. no mortal locks here. he should canter home. but ya neva know.

Cajungator26 02-01-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
that'd be really nice of them....wish someone would've come through for me.:p

Oops. :o We MIGHT have had a few too many on Saturday. LOL I'm sorry. :(

miraja2 02-01-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000
perhaps i am missing something, but why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor?
these other horses don't stand much of a chance in my opinion.

I have to agree with you about this. In his last three races his WORST Beyer# is a 111. No other horse in the race has ever run a figure that high. He is as solid a single here as you will find.

tycharles01 02-01-2007 07:40 PM

Invasor opens at 6/5

Magna Graduate 4/1

Chatain Strong Contender 6/1


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