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The Bid 12-03-2006 07:20 PM

OSU is about 21 points better than Florida, theyll win by 17

The Bid 12-03-2006 07:21 PM

Michigan may beat USC by over 14

timmgirvan 12-03-2006 07:21 PM

Scav: the way certain people are pumping up OSU, the line should be 9.5!

Scav 12-03-2006 07:25 PM

line is 7, and that line won't move at all, no way...

I'll tell you this, I absolutely LOVE Boise State(+8) to cover Oklahoma....possibly win the game

Scav 12-03-2006 07:28 PM

Wow, Pinny must be taking a ton of action on Ohio state because they just moved the line to 7.5

Boise State also dropped in down to getting 7.5

pgardn 12-03-2006 07:35 PM

Watch it on the OKlahoma game. OU may be the most improved team since the beginning of the season. And Adrian Peterson, the best RB in college football will play. I would really stay away from this game. Both ways.

timmgirvan 12-03-2006 07:37 PM

What color is the field gonna be?LOL

Scav 12-03-2006 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Watch it on the OKlahoma game. OU may be the most improved team since the beginning of the season. And Adrian Peterson, the best RB in college football will play. I would really stay away from this game. Both ways.

1) Peterson isn't playing

2) Boise State wants to earn something, called RESPECT, they are going to play their rear ends off. Oklahoma is their for a paycheck, they can care less about the game

King Glorious 12-03-2006 08:53 PM

I think Michigan might be the second best team in the country. I don't think they should be playing for a title though. Two reasons. They had their one chance. In this system, u can't ask for more than your one chance. That's all the other teams were going to get and now Florida is going to get theirs. Second, what if u put Michigan in the title game and they beat OSU 35-32? How fair would that beat to OSU that Michigan would be crowned champion? It wouldn't be fair at all. OSU shouldn't have to beat Michigan twice to win it but if they split, they lose.

The most screwed team in the country this year was Oklahoma. They probably should be playing in the championship game if u ask me. According to the information on Yahoo's site, they started off the season #5 in the USA Today poll and #10 in the AP. The finished regular season #8 in USA Today and #7 in the AP. If they hadn't lost that game to Oregon, they would be right there in the hunt. And they didn't really lose that game. The Pac-10 admitted that their officials made the wrong call and issued a formal apology to Oklahoma. That loss dropped them to the mid-teens in the polls. Without it, they would definitely be right there. And this after losing the best running back in the country in Adrian Peterson after six games. With a healthy Peterson, who is going to be back for the Sooners' bowl game, I'd give them a better chance to beat OSU than either USC, Florida, or Michigan.

Charismatic1 12-03-2006 10:34 PM

Despite what some are seemingly professing to be fact, nobody can possibly know who is the second best team in the country. I never knew determining the SECOND best team in a sport was so damn important. Hell, it's hard enough to determine the best team, especially in college football. We shouldn't have a Title game this year. Ohio State clearly is the best team. Give the BCS credit for determining that. hehe.

Whether or not we believe Florida, or Michigan, or (insert team) deserved to play for the title, we have to realize the BCS coordinators COULD NOT allow Michigan and Ohio State to play for the title game. The commissioners claim that a playoff would deminish the weight and importance of the regular season, which they claim to be the most important regular season in sports. With this in mind, a rematch would make that BIG game two weeks ago in Columbus perfectly MEANINGLESS. If Michigan were to win, they'd both be 12-1 and 1-1 against each other, but Michigan would take the crown. So, the game that was touted as the biggest regular season confrontation in many a year had what kind of importance?? If this "game of the young century" is meaningless, so is the entire premise of the BCS' purpose. There is no way in hell the BCS officials will let that happen if they can help it. All I can say is, they are VERY lucky and happy Arkansas' Fish moronically fumbled that punt near the goalline, changing the entire complexion of the game. If that doesn't happen, WE WIN and get a playoff VERY soon.

I firmly believe Florida deserves a shot at the National Championship. I firmly believe Michigan deserves a shot at the National Championship. I also firmly believe that LSU, USC, Louisville, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Wake Forest, and heck, even Arkansas, etc., deserve a shot at the National Title. That's the problem. In this modern era of parity in college football, two-loss seasons are often GREAT seasons. Yet, the structure now is NO different than 30 years ago when there was far greater disparity in the ranks. A "plus one" format will still be problematic. Which two-loss team do you choose? LSU, USC, Oklahoma? They all have arguments. Or would you take a one loss Louisville? (The nation would scream if Wisconsin got in for three Big 10 schools out of four.)

kenny p 12-04-2006 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I am guessing OSU is a 6pt favorite over Florida when Pinny opens it up

Pinnacle opens at OSU -7.5 Lsu -*.5

BellamyRd. 12-04-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charismatic1
Despite what some are seemingly professing to be fact, nobody can possibly know who is the second best team in the country. I never knew determining the SECOND best team in a sport was so damn important. Hell, it's hard enough to determine the best team, especially in college football. We shouldn't have a Title game this year. Ohio State clearly is the best team. Give the BCS credit for determining that. hehe.

Whether or not we believe Florida, or Michigan, or (insert team) deserved to play for the title, we have to realize the BCS coordinators COULD NOT allow Michigan and Ohio State to play for the title game. The commissioners claim that a playoff would deminish the weight and importance of the regular season, which they claim to be the most important regular season in sports. With this in mind, a rematch would make that BIG game two weeks ago in Columbus perfectly MEANINGLESS. If Michigan were to win, they'd both be 12-1 and 1-1 against each other, but Michigan would take the crown. So, the game that was touted as the biggest regular season confrontation in many a year had what kind of importance?? If this "game of the young century" is meaningless, so is the entire premise of the BCS' purpose. There is no way in hell the BCS officials will let that happen if they can help it. All I can say is, they are VERY lucky and happy Arkansas' Fish moronically fumbled that punt near the goalline, changing the entire complexion of the game. If that doesn't happen, WE WIN and get a playoff VERY soon.

I firmly believe Florida deserves a shot at the National Championship. I firmly believe Michigan deserves a shot at the National Championship. I also firmly believe that LSU, USC, Louisville, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Wake Forest, and heck, even Arkansas, etc., deserve a shot at the National Title. That's the problem. In this modern era of parity in college football, two-loss seasons are often GREAT seasons. Yet, the structure now is NO different than 30 years ago when there was far greater disparity in the ranks. A "plus one" format will still be problematic. Which two-loss team do you choose? LSU, USC, Oklahoma? They all have arguments. Or would you take a one loss Louisville? (The nation would scream if Wisconsin got in for three Big 10 schools out of four.)

you raise some good points
if we had an 8 game playoff
with the 6 conference champions of the BCS conferences
and 2 "wild-card" teams (the 2 highest ranked in the BCS polls)
it would be Ohio State, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, Wake Forest, Louisville
and then Michigan & LSU
then Boise State is screaming "what about us?"
if you took the top 4 in the BCS poll:
you'd get Ohio St, Florida, LSU, and Michigan
2 SEC's & 2 Big Ten's
then the other conferences are up in arms saying
"what about us?"
a 16 team would be too much though (IMO)
but something needs to be tweaked
I'd suggest unless you win a BCS conference
2 losses disqualify you, and a limit 2 teams per conference
so that would take out LSU and Wisconsin
and then you could add Boise to an 8 team playoff

Pointg5 12-04-2006 10:00 AM

I wish it was Mighigan, because I see them as giving the best chance to beat the Suckeyes, but it looks like the sweater vest man and his gang of thugs will get another National Championship...

2MinsToPost 12-04-2006 11:10 AM

In my humble opinion one of the biggest flaws with College Sports is this stupidity called preseason polls.

It depends, on whether Ohio State wins or if the game is close, on which Ohio State team shows up to play. If you go back and look at some of their games this year against mediocre teams at best, in particular their performance in the first half, you will see that they are a beatable team.

I am no fan of Ohio State and I live 15 minutes from the Campus. It is the fans of the Buckeyes that turn me off so much on this team - try living in Columbus, Ohio. Around here, everything about Ohio State is over-stated.

Come on Florida, win this baby so I don't have to hear about the possibility of Ohio State accomplishing what you will already have done - hold Championships in the same year in Basketball and Football.

Cajungator26 12-04-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
In my humble opinion one of the biggest flaws with College Sports is this stupidity called preseason polls.

It depends, on whether Ohio State wins or if the game is close, on which Ohio State team shows up to play. If you go back and look at some of their games this year against mediocre teams at best, in particular their performance in the first half, you will see that they are a beatable team.

I am no fan of Ohio State and I live 15 minutes from the Campus. It is the fans of the Buckeyes that turn me off so much on this team - try living in Columbus, Ohio. Around here, everything about Ohio State is over-stated.

Come on Florida, win this baby so I don't have to hear about the possibility of Ohio State accomplishing what you will already have done - hold Championships in the same year in Basketball and Football.

I'm in the same boat as you, Curt... I would love to see Florida beat them. It's going to be a tough game for us... if we can get healthy, we might have a legit shot. I'm just excited that we made it as far as we did. :)

Cajungator26 12-04-2006 11:59 AM

I should also state that I firmly believe that on a neutral field, Michigan would have beaten OSU. I was torn over what I thought should have happened and I think that it sucks that Michigan didn't get another shot at the Buckeyes.

BellamyRd. 12-04-2006 12:22 PM

Urban Meyer's initials are UM
Carr has too much class to campaign
so now he has to tell his team
"looks like California baby!"
Meyer lives a charmed life
he went undefeated w/ Utah
the same year they got rid of Zook
gets the #1 recruiting class at UF
and now plays for the NC
don't forget many of these guys
were on the team last year
when Bama spanked them 31-3
but he's played 27 freshman
51 days off makes you fat
the FLA freshman burn them
and pull off a shocking upset!

Scav 12-04-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm in the same boat as you, Curt... I would love to see Florida beat them. It's going to be a tough game for us... if we can get healthy, we might have a legit shot. I'm just excited that we made it as far as we did. :)

How can't you guys get healthly, the game is 30 days from now, all muscle strains should be completely cool by then

Cajungator26 12-04-2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
How can't you guys get healthly, the game is 30 days from now, all muscle strains should be completely cool by then

I don't know a lot about muscle strains and the time it takes to heal them, so I'll take your word on it... I just know that Arkansas was on a mission to injure our players. Bunch of BS if you ask me... :mad:

Scav 12-04-2006 01:08 PM

If their was a playoff, there would be none of that


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