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boswd 11-30-2006 08:43 AM

Man O' War even the Ky Derby at his time wasn't on the same level as it today but still none the less Man O' War!!!!!!!!!!!11

Dunbar 11-30-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by boswd
Man O' War even the Ky Derby at his time wasn't on the same level as it today but still none the less Man O' War!!!!!!!!!!!11

I think the thread is devoted to horses that actually ran in the Derby but didn't win.

--Dunbar

oracle80 11-30-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Commanche Run was eventually repurchased by his breeder and retired to a life as a pleasure horse. Concern was always underrated.

Back to the topic: Damascus
Native Dancer
Forego

I believe his name was Commanche Trail. And I believe he was by Carson City.

Bernardini 11-30-2006 04:41 PM

[quote=repent]are f*cking kidding me?
I like all 3 of those, but come on.
I will restrict this to just horses of our lifetime(we are about the same age) b/c otherwise the list would just be too long of horses that were better than the ones you listed.

Slew O'Gold
Holy Bull
Easy Goer
Skip Away
Hansel
Best Pal
Risen Star
Gate Dancer
Congaree
MDO

if you want to talk about Native Dancer and Nasua, well, there are plenty of others if you want to go far back in history.

Holy Bull, Easy Goer, Skip Away, Risen Star, Hansel 100% agreed but Medaglia D'oro & Congaree you'er kidding right ??

Point Given is a must with Empire Maker and AAlex

repent 12-01-2006 12:15 AM

[quote=Bernardini]
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Originally Posted by repent
are f*cking kidding me?
I like all 3 of those, but come on.
I will restrict this to just horses of our lifetime(we are about the same age) b/c otherwise the list would just be too long of horses that were better than the ones you listed.

Slew O'Gold
Holy Bull
Easy Goer
Skip Away
Hansel
Best Pal
Risen Star
Gate Dancer
Congaree
MDO

if you want to talk about Native Dancer and Nasua, well, there are plenty of others if you want to go far back in history.

Holy Bull, Easy Goer, Skip Away, Risen Star, Hansel 100% agreed but Medaglia D'oro & Congaree you'er kidding right ?
Point Given is a must with Empire Maker and AAlex

No,
not kidding.

MDO just ran into some real good horses and other not so good horses who freaked on one particular day.
watch his races again and you will see a very good 9/10f horse.

Congaree might be the best dirt miler not named Ghostzapper since Holy Bull.
if 8f were a more important dirt distance, we would think of him as an all time great.


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Linny 12-01-2006 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I believe his name was Commanche Trail. And I believe he was by Carson City.

You are right, Commanche RUN was a Euro. The breeder still has him though, Commanche TRAIL that is.

oracle80 12-01-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
You are right, Commanche RUN was a Euro. The breeder still has him though, Commanche TRAIL that is.

Yeah he was an allowance type sprinter, and his claim to fame will always be that he was the rabbit in the Holy Bull Travers.

JJP 12-01-2006 11:08 AM

I would say these would be the top 5 that I can remember:

Alydar, Slew O Gold, Risen Star, Easy Goer, Point Given

repent 12-01-2006 11:50 PM

Im going out of my mind on this thread.

how the hell can so many think horses like Afleet Alex and Point Given were better than Holy Bull and Skip Away?


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Pedigree Ann 12-02-2006 03:33 PM

Just watched the Travers. THANK YOU. A sight to warm the heart of a lover of less-than-fashionably pedigrees. Two male line Plaudits fighting it out.

TheSpyder 12-02-2006 06:15 PM

Quiz for the Experts
 
About 10 years ago:

Who was the horse that was coming through the tunnel and fliped over on its way to the Derby? Began with an E and thought the horse would be special. It was either the Derby or Breeders Cup and I believe the horse was a 3 yo????

TheSpyder 12-02-2006 06:36 PM

Thanks Hossman, I thinks that was the horse. I really liked her and never found out what happened...Damn, what a shame!!

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Exogenous, I think you are referring to. 3 year old filly that flipped before the BC Distaff. They had to put her down.

Also it was only five years ago, 2001 BC i believe.

KirisClown 12-02-2006 06:51 PM

Exogenous was going to easily win the BC that year too... terrible shame what happened to her...


smartyalex 12-02-2006 08:19 PM

Native Dancer

Danzig 12-02-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I am pretty sure that when she flipped, she fractured her skull or something like that.

they usually do, such a height for their head to come down from.
they were hopeful at first that she would be ok, she made it thru the night, but seized.
a beautiful filly, and man she could run. three ring had a similar occurrence, in the walking ring before a race. danehill as well.

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yes it was, sad story too, because she was really coming into the race well, and had a big shot.

she was going to be my play that day, I really liked her.


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