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LITF 05-04-2019 06:03 PM

**** horse racing...this **** is stupid. I don't know why I waste my time. **** this! God, these horses are bad.

cakes44 05-04-2019 06:22 PM

Rosario should be banished from riding in the Derby ever again after that botched-abortion of a ride.

Dahoss 05-04-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1125701)
Rosario should be banished from riding in the Derby ever again after that botched-abortion of a ride.

Unless the horse just doesn’t like taking dirt, I agree it was shockingly bad. I’d love to see his Trakus numbers.

LITF 05-04-2019 06:27 PM

I mean that was awful...just awful. They made the right call. But, come on...**** that...**** this sport

cakes44 05-04-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125703)
Unless the horse just doesn’t like taking dirt, I agree it was shockingly bad. I’d love to see his Trakus numbers.

I think the ambulance had less ground lost.

moses 05-04-2019 06:48 PM

Thank god I bet Country House two months ago in a moment of complete stupidity. Would have never bet him today.

moses 05-04-2019 06:49 PM

Anyone know when they pay out the futures pools?

cakes44 05-04-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125716)
Anyone know when they pay out the futures pools?

Right now if you want.

moses 05-04-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1125722)
Right now if you want.

Thanks. I got paid like 2 minutes after I asked. I’m too impatient.

Merlinsky 05-04-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LITF (Post 1125704)
I mean that was awful...just awful. They made the right call. But, come on...**** that...**** this sport

At first I was like 'oh they'll never take him down, this is nonsense, I can't blame Flavien for trying cuz it's the Derby but...' Then the other angles where you could see how much Maximum Security came out and how close War of Will came to going down. We nearly saw a terrible tragedy.

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1125758)
At first I was like 'oh they'll never take him down, this is nonsense, I can't blame Flavien for trying cuz it's the Derby but...' Then the other angles where you could see how much Maximum Security came out and how close War of Will came to going down. We nearly saw a terrible tragedy.

Save the drama. There was NEVER the remote inkling of a *terrible tragedy*

Jesus Fu<king Christ

Merlinsky 05-04-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1125759)
Save the drama. There was NEVER the remote inkling of a *terrible tragedy*

Jesus Fu<king Christ

War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama. :rolleyes:

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

Dahoss 05-04-2019 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1125713)
I think the ambulance had less ground lost.

He traveled 103 more feet than Maximum Security. Mind boggling...

moses 05-04-2019 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125769)
He traveled 103 more feet than Maximum Security. Mind boggling...

Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

Dahoss 05-04-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125771)
Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

It seemed like he was 10 wide most of the backstretch

philcski 05-04-2019 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125771)
Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125773)
It seemed like he was 10 wide most of the backstretch

Not to mention he was taken back to 18th of 19 shortly after the start in a race where a rookie could see there was only a moderate pace likely. :wf

richard burch 05-05-2019 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1125768)
War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama. :rolleyes:

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

To me, it looks like WoW is riding up the MS arse. That is what I felt when I saw it live and on replay. He moved too soon. WoW caused the problem.

Rudeboyelvis 05-05-2019 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1125768)
War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama. :rolleyes:

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

A screenshot, out of context with no benefit of a head on proves nothing. Horses race in tight daily. If the horse (MS) shied toward the crowd that purportedly spooked him ( makes no sense) , and a speed horse (WoW) is fading outside, what exactly is the jock supposed to do?

These are the facts:
1. There was NO Stewards Inquiry
2. Neither of the 2 horses that claimed foul were ever fouled

It’s the most ridiculous takedown I’ve ever seen. If you want to give him days for the ride that’s one thing. Placing clearly the best, and unquestionably the winning horse 17th serves no one, and is another black eye for the sport.

jms62 05-05-2019 06:38 AM

Watching that replay we were 1/2 second from a disaster that would be far far worse for the sport than the DQ. How many horses would have gone down ?

herkhorse 05-05-2019 07:13 AM

It's horse racing, we are a 1/2 second from disaster in every race. Thousands of people got to experience the thrill of victory, followed by the gut punch of a disqualification. The worst feeling in all of sports betting. My guess is most won't become lifelong fans.
Was it a BS call? maybe, maybe not. The track condition was surely a factor, if WOW goes inside of Max instead of trying to squeeze outside, maybe nothing happens. I'm just not a fan of humans deciding the outcome.


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