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RHT2004 07-21-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1095488)
was alive in the pick 4 to 2-6-9 in the last. :zz:

Rough way to lose.

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 10:24 AM

yesterday was great, hoping today is better

i like marshal plan, everyone likes marshal plan, but the type of race that Mr Crow ran is an indication he might be really good. I think the race was solid and given he may sneak up in price I am more than willing to bet him in a bit of a head to head with the 2.

Its been a decade since I bet a lukas horse but the 4 in the 5th ran a very strong race first out and if they let him drift up I will take a shot with him.

i will not take a shot with browse as she is surely going to be overbet in what is a pretty tough field. Stella Rose is probably the horse I play but there are many options for prices here. 1 does have a pace advantage and i think the inner with the rails out is a huge help

in the 2 year old race I am all 1 or 6 in this spot.

Lady Eli was pretty awesome in her last and I dont like Antonoe going further, its a normal bet for me, speed horses stretching out (like Infinite Wisdom yesterday) and bet against closers stretching out.

RHT2004 07-22-2017 10:28 AM

Single Mr Crow he never stopped battling. He wins today.

RHT2004 07-22-2017 10:29 AM

Lukas baby can wire.

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1095526)
Single Mr Crow he never stopped battling. He wins today.

thats a runner right there, and nice to see an aggressive ride for a change

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 12:38 PM

feels like you better have some tactical speed on the inner

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 01:47 PM

surfaces sure all seems to be telling you to be close. 2 main track races inside wires...and I hated the 1 in the 4th.

RHT2004 07-22-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1095569)
surfaces sure all seems to be telling you to be close. 2 main track races inside wires...and I hated the 1 in the 4th.

Totally agree. Plus the Pletcher horse was 2 bad to be true after chasing wide.

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1095583)
Totally agree. Plus the Pletcher horse was 2 bad to be true after chasing wide.

the 1, a longshot in the 6th, actually held on a long long time after a crazy pace.

Not sure there is any more opportunity to take advantage of it.

cakes44 07-22-2017 05:24 PM

I could do without Rosie's "insights" on air anytime soon.

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 05:25 PM

Glad to see the big horse win....I thought Antinoe ran very well with everything going on.

cakes44 07-22-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1095630)
Glad to see the big horse win....I thought Antinoe ran very well with everything going on.

I think Antonoe had a chance to tip out instead of going inside, and I believe it made a big difference.

RHT2004 07-22-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1095630)
Glad to see the big horse win....I thought Antinoe ran very well with everything going on.

All 3 ran big all things considered. 3 could come down.

10 pnt move up 07-22-2017 05:31 PM

Man, that was Irad who almost cost that horse a win....he was leaning so far off the horse while coming over a bit. It was the right call but that was a bit foolish.

RHT2004 07-22-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1095638)
Man, that was Irad who almost cost that horse a win....he was leaning so far off the horse while coming over a bit. It was the right call but that was a bit foolish.

Agree again. He caused the 4 to drift in.

casp0555 07-23-2017 02:16 PM

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10 pnt move up 07-24-2017 08:13 PM

After reviewing the race, the figures and watching the replays I am not going all in on Takaful. The win was really good but a few things.

There was several talented lightly raced speed horses in the field. Was going to be a fast pace right. What happed is there was two really fast horses, and once Takaful outbroke the the other real speed, combined with some really passive riders, a slow pace developed.

So Takaful sets a slow pace, on what I believe was a good rail, and draws off to win for fun. The other speeds basically were none runners once he outgunned them, and the closers had little shot with the pace and track.

He is talented but favorite for the Kings Bishop, hard for me to take off that setup today.

RHT2004 07-24-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1095965)
After reviewing the race, the figures and watching the replays I am not going all in on Takaful. The win was really good but a few things.

There was several talented lightly raced speed horses in the field. Was going to be a fast pace right. What happed is there was two really fast horses, and once Takaful outbroke the the other real speed, combined with some really passive riders, a slow pace developed.

So Takaful sets a slow pace, on what I believe was a good rail, and draws off to win for fun. The other speeds basically were none runners once he outgunned them, and the closers had little shot with the pace and track.

He is talented but favorite for the Kings Bishop, hard for me to take off that setup today.

That extra furlong with an expected faster pace should cook him. Im glad he got back on track sprinting though.


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