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declansharbor 04-30-2015 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1024606)
talking Baffert...it Is A Little Strange To Have 1 Trainer Likely Running The 2 Post Time Favs.

I Mean... How Can He Not Be Pulling For 1 Just A Little bit More?

they both have good posts...their race to lose.

i think firing line has a shot.
What made you reconsider your stance as AP and Dortmund being the only ones with a chance for the win?

Just wondering.

BOL

Kitan 05-01-2015 10:47 AM
I get that he is picture perfect in the mornings, but how does a 5f work translate to 10f?

Usain Bolt has a magnificent, effortless stride. He looks great doing it over 100m and 200m, and he's even won recently at 400m. But could he do it over 600m? 800m? Against Rushida?

I think he'll be struggling in the last furlong. I don't think he can stagger home fast enough to win.

blackthroatedwind 05-01-2015 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1024587)
Not tactics, but just raw ability.

He's just so much better.
Based on what?

Indian Charlie 05-01-2015 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1024899)
Based on what?
Based on watching both of them run.

That being said, I'm not as confident now that AP will be in front of Dortmund in the early running.

blackthroatedwind 05-01-2015 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1024913)
Based on watching both of them run.

That being said, I'm not as confident now that AP will be in front of Dortmund in the early running.
Is that handicapping method what led to your current status as a non-bettor?

Indian Charlie 05-01-2015 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1024926)
Is that handicapping method what led to your current status as a non-bettor?
No.

blackthroatedwind 05-01-2015 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1024949)
No.
So you are betting now?

my miss storm cat 05-02-2015 05:58 PM
Thrilled he won! :)

Kitan 05-02-2015 06:03 PM

cakes44 05-02-2015 07:55 PM
Has Upstart finished yet?

GenuineRisk 05-02-2015 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1025381)
Has Upstart finished yet?
I laughed. And then I cried.

cakes44 05-02-2015 08:28 PM
I'm certain that whoever called out IC about his opinions on AP and belittling him, and might have possibly touted the DFL horse, will be back here lettin IC know who was right. I'm holding my breath.

Sightseek 05-02-2015 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1025381)
Has Upstart finished yet?
If you watched the replay you would notice that he wasn't cantering so great over the wire.

richard burch 05-03-2015 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1024472)
big on...i like horses that lift their legs high in the stretch.
It feels so good. I just like being right. It really feels good to pick the right horse.:):):):)

CONGRATS A.P., V. Espinoza and B. Baffert......I just like being right. It feels good to pick the right horse.

Indian Charlie 05-03-2015 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1025386)
I'm certain that whoever called out IC about his opinions on AP and belittling him, and might have possibly touted the DFL horse, will be back here lettin IC know who was right. I'm holding my breath.
LOL.

I hope you have big lungs.

Indian Charlie 05-03-2015 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 1025410)
If you watched the replay you would notice that he wasn't cantering so great over the wire.
I really thought Upstart was an impossible pick, but man, what happened to him?

Did he get hurt? I've been out all night immediately after the race ended, so I have no idea what happened to him.

cakes44 05-03-2015 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 1025410)
If you watched the replay you would notice that he wasn't cantering so great over the wire.
No, he did not look great finishing.

pointman 05-03-2015 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1025416)
It feels so good. I just like being right. It really feels good to pick the right horse.:):):):)

CONGRATS A.P., V. Espinoza and B. Baffert......I just like being right. It feels good to pick the right horse.
You were? Way to go Dicky, this is a big accomplishment! You learned how to pick the favorite in a horse race!

But I wouldn't take off the helmet yet . . . .

DonGuido 05-03-2015 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1025439)
You were? Way to go Dicky, this is a big accomplishment! You learned how to pick the favorite in a horse race!

But I wouldn't take off the helmet yet . . . .
It's as hard to stick with chalk as it is to try and beat it. Sometimes you just have to say I'm betting the favorite, for good if not obvious reasons usually. I did and am very pleased with the results.

And a great grandson, I believe, of the great Storm Cat . . . even better in my book.

Sightseek 05-03-2015 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1025428)
No, he did not look great finishing.
So rubbing it in that he ran poorly (and way below expectations) was just to make yourself feel better? Well done.


Thankfully, he is reportedly ok for now.


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