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ateamstupid 10-12-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Discreet Cat would get dusted by Bernardini. If Wanderin Boy was running against the same horses Discreet Cat has been beating up on, he too would look like a monster. Gimmee a break. A horse that runs 4 times a year shouldnt even be talked about until he runs in a race with meaning.

I'd be careful about that one. I'm as big a Bernardini fan as anyone, but DC may end up being better.. Seriously.

sham 10-12-2006 12:41 PM

We could pool our money and hire someone to slip in and castrate the horse.

Bold Reasoning 10-12-2006 01:18 PM

Why are no American publications reporting this? Bernardini is an American horse, from my perspective. Last week the NY Daily News reported in backpage headlines that Joe Torre is out as the Yankee skipper. :D I am going to hold off on my disappointment; I did not recover from Vindication yet.

Slewbopper 10-12-2006 01:44 PM

Perhaps our "friends" in the desert are thinking they would like two horses of the year and won't let Bernie get in DC's path next year.

My guess is, given his record of only 5 races so far and obvious health problems, that DC will be all through before the real racing in 2007 begins.

Bastards

SentToStud 10-12-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Unfortunately ... you're correct.

If he wins big in the BC Classic ... all we can say is that he had a great 3YO campaign.

No starts as a 2YO ... and no starts as a 4YO.

Even people who have billions of stolen dollars have no sense of sportsmanship any more.

Kinda figures though ... no human decency ... no sportsmanship either.

There you go again with your racist nonesense..

You say, "No human decency..." Yeah right,

Your problem is that the Arabs are actually doing well in the sport you love.

You hate so much, you can't stand their success.

SentToStud 10-12-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
They are the enemies of racing.

This is just further confirmation. Only the breeders can defend them because they have made them staggeringly wealthy.

Pretty lame....makes me root against this horse and every horse they have.

The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

blackthroatedwind 10-12-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?


Find one " anti-arab " comment I have made before calling me a bigot you swine.

And my posts are objectionable?

Slewbopper 10-12-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He can defend himself, but I don't think his problem is their nationality. He actually didn't say anything about their nationality. They have more or less been taking away from US racing by buying up a ton of horses, and taking them away. How much of that $57 million or however much they spent at Keeneland in horseflesh do you think we will be seeing here? If the past few years are any indication, very little.

So true.....Kick 'em out of Keeneland

somerfrost 10-12-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

I am hardly anti-Arab, I am anti-despot however! Where do you think all that money used to buy horses comes from??? I have family in the region and lived with them for a time...you want to believe these folks are "good guys" try living under their rule for awhile! I am just as much against white, black or oriental despots!!

Bold Reasoning 10-12-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He can defend himself, but I don't think his problem is their nationality. He actually didn't say anything about their nationality. They have more or less been taking away from US racing by buying up a ton of horses, and taking them away. How much of that $57 million or however much they spent at Keeneland in horseflesh do you think we will be seeing here? If the past few years are any indication, very little.

I think we are going to see MANY from the sale racing here on US soil. Sheikh Maktoum is buying American-types in hopes of winning the American classics. An example is the colt Vindication/Serena's Tune.

JJP 10-12-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
While it would be disappointing, I don't think it has any effect on how good or great Bernardini is as a horse. If u think he's great now, why would he need another 15-20 races to prove it? Sometimes, careers are cut short but the brilliance is still evident. In racing, think Landaluce or Ruffian. In basketball, there was Len Bias. Football had Gayle Sayers. When greatness is there, it's there whether u get to see it for five races or 50. I'm not saying whether u have to believe that Bernardini is an all-time great but what I am saying is that if he did what he's been doing for another 20 races and u would proclaim him great at that point, then the talent is there now for u to call him great because if it wasn't already there now, he wouldn't be able to do it in the future. It's my feeling that more races would only confirm further to the non-believers what the believers already know.

I don't think we can attach the word "brilliance" or "greatness" to Len Bias or any other top of the line college player who never plays a game in the pros. There's been too many so-called "great" college players who were anything but when they tried the next level. We'll never know if Bias would've been great, or a bust.

JJP 10-12-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SentToStud
The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

That's ridiculous. They clearly are NOT sporting and are only in it to feed their massive egos. They are the ones who drive up the yearling prices by overpaying for the likes of TGM. I'll be hoping Bernardini finishes off the board in the Classic.

King Glorious 10-12-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
I don't think we can attach the word "brilliance" or "greatness" to Len Bias or any other top of the line college player who never plays a game in the pros. There's been too many so-called "great" college players who were anything but when they tried the next level. We'll never know if Bias would've been great, or a bust.

Perhaps that's true. But I've heard it from some people who's authority I greatly respect that he was the real deal.

Cajungator26 10-12-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
That's ridiculous. They clearly are NOT sporting and are only in it to feed their massive egos. They are the ones who drive up the yearling prices by overpaying for the likes of TGM. I'll be hoping Bernardini finishes off the board in the Classic.

There is more to the Green Monkey story than what meets the eye...

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 02:41 PM

S2s,
I kinda understand what you're saying.
Seems to me that some folks have much more of a problem with the owners than the horse.
Maybe they're unable to make the distinction.

btw...I also hate disguised racism.

blackthroatedwind 10-12-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
S2s,
I kinda understand what you're saying.
Seems to me that some folks have much more of a problem with the owners than the horse.
Maybe they're unable to make the distinction.

btw...I also hate disguised racism.

You want to call me a racist too????????

Then say it to me.

The internet really makes people brave........and stupid apparently.

Cajungator26 10-12-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
S2s,
I kinda understand what you're saying.
Seems to me that some folks have much more of a problem with the owners than the horse.
Maybe they're unable to make the distinction.

btw...I also hate disguised racism.

I seriously didn't see ANY racism on this thread whatsoever... it's a hatred for what they are doing to the racing industry.

2MinsToPost 10-12-2006 02:44 PM

A Country Of Strangers

Great book, falls into these "lines" as this thread turns :(

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You want to call me a racist too????????

Then say it to me.

The internet really makes people brave........and stupid apparently.

Never did I say that.
If that's what you read, go back and reread my post.
I never mentioned a name.
Am I to blame for something you thought you heard me say?


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