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pointman 08-16-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 993242)
We'll soon see:)

You were right, but it took absolute garbage riding on the two Brown horses. How was Minorette's speed not used there, even if to set up Xcellence? What a laugher that Lezcano takes back and lets the 5 sit off the 1 off a slow pace like that. Garbage ride by Bravo trying to take the 4 up the rail. Incredible incompetence.

ScottJ 08-16-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 993219)
I knew that race was f****** trouble, I could not get a grip on it. I should have tossed the 6 and thrown the 4 on there. The more I looked at the Jacobson with the Anchor aboard, I knew I wanted to toss, changed my mind from my original ticket and tossed. I didn't love the 7, the 5 was really the only horse that I wanted. That really stings.

Late to reading some of the posts today, but when I read "Jacobson with the Arnchor aboard", I laughed out loud and knew who had to have been in the irons.

Pants II 08-16-2014 01:17 PM

Send Russell Ba...err Bravo back to Monmouth.

jms62 08-16-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 993251)
You were right, but it took absolute garbage riding on the two Brown horses. How was Minorette's speed not used there, even if to set up Xcellence? What a laugher that Lezcano takes back and lets the 5 sit off the 1 off a slow pace like that. Garbage ride by Bravo trying to take the 4 up the rail. Incredible incompetence.

You realize Abel Lezcano has more wins at Toga this meet then Jose (2-1). ****ing Pathetic.

casp0555 08-16-2014 01:20 PM

MTH 4

$1 Trifecta - 10/4,5,8/2,4,5,6,7,8
$15

ScottJ 08-16-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 993251)
You were right, but it took absolute garbage riding on the two Brown horses. How was Minorette's speed not used there, even if to set up Xcellence? What a laugher that Lezcano takes back and lets the 5 sit off the 1 off a slow pace like that. Garbage ride by Bravo trying to take the 4 up the rail. Incredible incompetence.

The same on-going scenario in these four ad five horse fields. The pace is slow, the lead is given to a gross longshot on paper, and the race turns into a quarterhorse sprint. When you think about if, Duff One (#1, J.Ortiz) came within 3/4s of a length on that tremendous upset.

More interesting is that the pace and layout of that race put to the two Belmont Oaks players off the exacta.

Minorette did not seem to have the same pop so no fault to Lezcano there, but Chad Brown's other charge, Xcellence, is a head scratcher - a room full of top jockeys available, Bravo gets the chance, and gets pocketed and blocked in a four horse field. Exactly how does that happen? You can be sure that Jersey Joe does not see the back of this horse next time out.

Pants II 08-16-2014 01:21 PM

...aaaand I lose at Ellis because that idiot Castanon can't get the god damn class of the race out of the gate and takes him 10 wide around the turn.

This sport just ****ing blows. It's devolved so much in the last 5 years that we are lunatics for funding it.

The product is unacceptable nationwide.

ateamstupid 08-16-2014 01:22 PM

Arlington 3
$.50 PK4 1,3,4,7,8,11/5,7,9,10,11,12/2,4,5,10/10
$72

Pants II 08-16-2014 01:23 PM

Good luck guys.

I'm not wasting the rest of my day depending on what a ****ing midget is or isn't going to do.

pointman 08-16-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 993256)
The same on-going scenario in these four ad five horse fields. The pace is slow, the lead is given to a gross longshot on paper, and the race turns into a quarterhorse sprint. When you think about if, Duff One (#1, J.Ortiz) came within 3/4s of a length on that tremendous upset.

More interesting is that the pace and layout of that race put to the two Belmont Oaks players off the exacta.

Minorette did not seem to have the same pop so no fault to Lezcano there, but Chad Brown's other charge, Xcellence, is a head scratcher - a room full of top jockeys available, Bravo gets the chance, and gets pocketed and blocked in a four horse field. Exactly how does that happen? You can be sure that Jersey Joe does not see the back of this horse next time out.

As Maggie Wolfendale tweeted, how in hell can you get the kind of trip the 4 got in a 4 horse field? I can't imagine that Brown wanted both of his horses taken back there, it is like saying we are going to concede the race to the 5. The ride by Bravo there was awful and I agree there is zero chance he is getting back on that horse who is who I want out of this race.

I am just dumbfounded as to the strategy that went into the riding of that race in what is supposed to be the top colony in the country. Doug Salvatore was spot on when he said he would rather see Lezcano on the 4 than the 6, would have been a different result there.

Pants II 08-16-2014 01:28 PM

It looks shady as ****. I don't know any other way to put it.

What's going on with a lot of these races is unexplainable.

It's either blatant stupidity. To the point that they shouldn't have a riding license or they're fixing races.

And don't act like that **** doesn't happen. Especially in this economy.

pointman 08-16-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 993254)
You realize Abel Lezcano has more wins at Toga this meet then Jose (2-1). ****ing Pathetic.

Stunning incompetence, but Bravo gets the bonehead award in that race. Lezcano is overrated, this is the second year in a row he has gotten a ton of live mounts and gotten nothing out of them, at least Abel has done a decent job with much lessor mounts.

senator L 08-16-2014 01:30 PM

I always get into trouble when I bet what I think the
jockeys will do. They never do what I would do...
win:zz:

knickslions2 08-16-2014 01:31 PM

Toga 4

20 dd
3/2,5

ateamstupid 08-16-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 993262)
As Maggie Wolfendale tweeted, how in hell can you get the kind of trip the 4 got in a 4 horse field? I can't imagine that Brown wanted both of his horses taken back there, it is like saying we are going to concede the race to the 5. The ride by Bravo there was awful and I agree there is zero chance he is getting back on that horse who is who I want out of this race.

I am just dumbfounded as to the strategy that went into the riding of that race in what is supposed to be the top colony in the country. Doug Salvatore was spot on when he said he would rather see Lezcano on the 4 than the 6, would have been a different result there.

I think Duff One is the horse you want out of this race. Xcellence didn't have a great trip, but she was lousy IMO.

pointman 08-16-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 993270)
I think Duff One is the horse you want out of this race. Xcellence didn't have a great trip, but she was lousy IMO.

You could be right, but with those fractions she should have held on, think she is a step below these. Xcellence could have been better, but she wanted no part of going up the tight rail there.

Pants II 08-16-2014 01:38 PM

It's the Chode Brown mush. He has no idea what his horses prefer because it seems the majority of his stock are euros new to the barn.

He might as well move to Europe and train.

senator L 08-16-2014 01:41 PM

AP R3
wp on#8
ex 8,11
tri 8,11 all
good luck

knickslions2 08-16-2014 01:41 PM

Ap 3

$20 win 7

pointman 08-16-2014 01:42 PM

Spa 4

$10DD 2,3/4,6


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