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jms62 07-28-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 989843)
7 of the last 21 Haskell's for Baffert. Pretty FN remarkable. Shah seems like an incredibly humble and likely gentleman. It's easy to root for that man.

So a trainer whose horses love the front end is winning at a 33% clip on a track that has been rewarding the front end for years. What is remarkable is that he doesn't enter his stock in every Dirt stake run at Monmouth.

freddymo 07-28-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 989847)
So a trainer whose horses love the front end is winning at a 33% clip on a track that has been rewarding the front end for years. What is remarkable is that he doesn't enter his stock in every Dirt stake run at Monmouth.

Not sure the purses and geographical location serve his interests. Put 1 million up and he has a very sincere interest apparently.

pointman 07-28-2014 11:13 AM

While Baffert has had success in the Haskell, he has not had the same type of success in the Travers where his only winner is Point Given.

pointman 07-28-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 989868)
What is Baffert's record in the Travers?

1 for 4. Won with Point Given in 2001. Roman Ruler, Coil and Liaison all lost.

10 pnt move up 07-28-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 989717)
I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.

I agree with this, that trip was great for a lot of reasons, will definitely bet against him down the road if he is bet like Untapable was.

Indian Charlie 07-28-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 989869)
1 for 4. Won with Point Given in 2001. Roman Ruler, Coil and Liaison all lost.

They all figured to lose though.

RockHardTen1985 07-28-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 989904)
They all figured to lose though.

How? Liaison, yes. I think Roman Ruler was like 9-5 with Bailey off of a Haskell win.
Coil had to have been pretty sure also. He won the Haskell in his previous start.

Indian Charlie 07-28-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 989928)
How? Liaison, yes. I think Roman Ruler was like 9-5 with Bailey off of a Haskell win.
Coil had to have been pretty sure also. He won the Haskell in his previous start.

Roman ruler and coil were both very overrated and got exposed


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