Obama and Biden are the first president and vice president where neither served in the military. So what is your point?

Civil war brewing amongst the Bloods. :D

I hope Biden fights for the Democrat nomination against Hillary, as I would enjoy that division. I expect Hillary wants a coronation the same way that she was handed the Senate seat in New York from Moynihan.

I mean, why bother running for the House first - she's better than that :rolleyes:

Both would have been accepted if they did choose to serve unlike 'Bag of Donuts' Christie. Get it now?

It's a distinction without a difference. Either you served, and it would give you additional insight before becoming commander-in-chief, or you didn't.

Whether the reason is being overweight or having a very high level of an elitist mindset makes no difference.

Excuse me, i know it's been a few years but check out the last duo.
G Dumya Bush, his daddy got him into the NG to avoid active service.:tro:
Darth Cheney..5 time draft dodger...:tro:

You realize that the National Guard can be deployed as regular troops at any time, right?

Of course..but am sure daddy would have found a way to exempt him..
Here he is in full military dress..

they can be now. it's a different game then bck in the day, when bush got a pass by entering the guard.

i don't think one need be a vet to be president. however, i think if one had served in the military, they might be more prone to think about where they're sending troops before sending them.
our military is a powerful tool. not something to be used lightly, or regarded casually-especially when one knows it's flesh and blood people who will give far more than their commander in chief if the time comes.

And a 500-1 shot can win the Kentucky derby if you get a 19 horse pileup... Suffice to say with the dearth of National Guard units deployed in Vietnam and Daddy having some say it would be a safer bet to bet the 500-1 shot ahead of GWB seeing action in Vietnam.

http://www.mnroa.org/0703/research/v...research_1.htm

I'm down for $200 on the 500-1 shot...i'd go for more but i'm like a midget right now, a little short...

Introducing some Hope and Change. Running for Congress against fellow vet Tammy Duckworth.

Tammy Duckworth, Iraq War Veteran, Urges Congress To Ratify Disabilities Treaty.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4221493.html

Good luck to both..

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Much, much different now than "back in the day." After a 4-1/2 year hitch in the USAF, 1964-1968, I got out and joined an ANG unit out of Floyd Bennett Field in NY. We got activated and "deployed" in March, 1970 for......wait for it......the postal strike!

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We had presidents who couldn't control what they took out of their pants as leaders of the government, and one who couldn't control what he put in OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTHS who led for two terms. Not a Christie supporter, but don't think his weight is any more than fodder for late night comics.

Bad year for the NG, hope nobody was hurt at your site...May 4, 1970 was the worst NG action...Worked with several people that had kids at Kent State working the phones desperately trying to find out if their kids were safe..One of them wasn't so lucky...

Have many 'older' friends who served in 'Nam and can't imagine the shiat they dealt with coming back with little to no help sans 'welcome home' compared to those coming back now to 'open' arms.

I'm sorry for those 'back in the day'.

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Well, I only got cursed at once by some mongrel hippie type at O'Hare back in Sept, 1967 as I was returning from Korea in uniform to reunite with my bride in Iowa (she was staying with her parents).

Got on a practially empty UAL DC-6B, and had a very enjoyable conversation with a nice stewardess during a raging midwest thunderstorm. All the greetings I needed waiting for me at the Cedar Rapids airport that night.

wow, so what he chooses to eat is affecting some peoples' votes.
good god.

boy, just think if grant was running for office today...or jefferson for that matter!