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RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 952015)
I will take a peek but I have strong opinions on single horses, never lots of races.

Its not worth playing, at all IMO. Flashback might be really good, and he might not be much and he might not be ready off the layoff, but that field is trash and I think he is like 80% likely to win that race. Seems like a huge waste of time and money trying to beat him in this spot. Waiting for BC races. You get 3 BC pick 3's. Thats enough for me.

pointman 11-01-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952017)
You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?

Is that what I said?

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952017)
You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?

I think shes still champ 3yr old filly, no she did not run at all. But Beholder did not have a real campaign, spotty. She has 1 huge win today, a huge second and that prep win that was IMO OK. Only Close Hatches could have took that honor away, and she ran well, but not good enough.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 07:17 PM

POS is the champ. Would be awful to see her not get it IMO

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 07:19 PM

I could actually see them running POS back at Aqueduct THanksgiving weekend. They kept her in training for this, the track was a joke and she did not run 1 step. If shes OK, they could run her.

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 952020)
I think shes still champ 3yr old filly, no she did not run at all. But Beholder did not have a real campaign, spotty. She has 1 huge win today, a huge second and that prep win that was IMO OK. Only Close Hatches could have took that honor away, and she ran well, but not good enough.

While I agree about the way it should be voted I think you are selling Beholder short who beat elders twice in grade 1 races, won the SA Oaks and was super game in the Ky Oaks. She did have a injury issue though so she should have to pay a price for that.

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952019)
Is that what I said?

Pretty much.

pointman 11-01-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952026)
Pretty much.

No, I did not. I said that she had no chance to win the race on such a ridiculously biased race track before they even got into the gate, I never evaluated her run today.

You tried to mix up my words in your never ending trolling quest to take shots at me whenever you see an opening. Keep trying troll.

By the way, you still haven't answered the question of who did run a step from that far back today?

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952031)
No, I did not. I said that she had no chance to win the race on such a ridiculously biased race track before they even got into the gate, I never evaluated her run today.

You tried to mix up my words in your never ending trolling quest to take shots at me whenever you see an opening. Keep trying troll.

By the way, you still haven't answered the question of who did run a step from that far back today?

Golden Ticket, and he is not nearly as good as Princess of Sylmar.

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952033)
Golden Ticket, and he is not nearly as good as Princess of Sylmar.

Stop it. He chugged up for second. He never really kicked. Was inside also

pointman 11-01-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952033)
Golden Ticket, and he is not nearly as good as Princess of Sylmar.

That is laughable. You can come up with one horse that made up some ground late on the rail where everyone close to the pace but the winner collapsed out of 6 dirt races and you believe that it undermines my point?

You are trolling. Just admit it and move on.

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 08:02 PM

Does this track make anyone want to use Diamond Bachlor in the Juvy? I thought being inside of Havana might land him on the lead.

Alan07 11-01-2013 08:06 PM

The track is in the process of being sealed, then rolled and scraped.

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952035)
That is laughable. You can come up with one horse that made up some ground late on the rail where everyone close to the pace but the winner collapsed out of 6 dirt races and you believe that it undermines my point?

You are trolling. Just admit it and move on.

You asked for a horse that closed, I gave it to you. Now you are saying a horse that closed but....

Princess of Sylmar was inside as well the entire race.

pointman 11-01-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952040)
You asked for a horse that closed, I gave it to you. Now you are saying a horse that closed but....

Princess of Sylmar was inside as well the entire race.

You think that the track was not speed biased today?

dino 11-01-2013 08:13 PM

Anybody have the will pays for the 2 day DD?

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952041)
You think that the track was not speed biased today?

Definitely, I just dont think POS ran a step, which is what you disputed.

pointman 11-01-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952044)
Definitely, I just dont think POS ran a step, which is what you disputed.

Back to the same factually incorrect argument that didn't work the first time?

Remember, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and and remove all doubt.

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dugout (Post 952057)
Beholder beat elders 2x had one less start then Sylmar all year.POS first two races of the year she beat Kelli Me Frosty in one start and Ruby Lips in the other.
One can argue Beholder lost in the Oaks was better the Sylmars win.

Princess ran away from a 2x champion. Beholder beat Authenticity.


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