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alysheba4

04-04-2013 05:18 PM

if they go to los al or fairplex it will be a complete joke.

Dahoss

04-04-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegaskid (Post 922055)

Really?? Questions??

Yes, they are the same, but NY seems to have the biggest in the game.

Yes. I believe she does.

Ya, there are good clean trainers at every track, but NY has the most juicers IMO.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Danzig

04-04-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 922111)

Thanks for answering. As long as the track is not All weather like Hollywood, I am good.

sure. i remembered you asking while i was reading the article. i don't think they're looking much for a replacement track for dates; i guess santa anita will get them a lot of that. seems, from what i've seen, that they are more concerned with stall space and training facility issues.

edit~~ just grabbed that issue. san luis rey downs, a training center 'may be back in the picture'. that's the place stronach, etc owns. has a one mile track.
fairplex would expand the 5f track to 6f, and add a five furlong turf track.
los al has a 5f track. they'd change it to 7f, but no turf track added.

Danzig

04-04-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 922126)

if they go to los al or fairplex it will be a complete joke.

i'd have to think that fairplex, of the three mentioned in the article has the best shot to get more dates. seems tho that santa anita will get the bulk of the dates, with the other places having more use as training/stabling facilities.
with los al having full-time qb racing, i don't see them adding much for t'breds. and if they don't want to add a turf course, that doesn't help their situation either.

helicopter11

04-04-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 922145)

sure. i remembered you asking while i was reading the article. i don't think they're looking much for a replacement track for dates; i guess santa anita will get them a lot of that. seems, from what i've seen, that they are more concerned with stall space and training facility issues.

edit~~ just grabbed that issue. san luis rey downs, a training center 'may be back in the picture'. that's the place stronach, etc owns. has a one mile track.
fairplex would expand the 5f track to 6f, and add a five furlong turf track.
los al has a 5f track. they'd change it to 7f, but no turf track added.

5 furlong turf track? why even bother? Whatever the replacement track is, the quality of racing in So Cal will be diminished for sure

Danzig

04-05-2013 06:49 AM

yeah, 5f doesn't seem like much. what i don't understand is why they didn't start making changes sooner. did anyone out there get caught by surprise that hollywood will close? they've had several years to start working on an alternative to hp.

Cannon Shell

04-05-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegaskid (Post 922077)

Sorry, I just believe 75% of trainers today are using illegal medications. The ones who get caught have the same pattern as she shows.

It's what I believe. I don't blame these trainers for doing what they do. This is no different than blaming MLB players from the 80's/90's of doing steroids. It's the industry's problem and fault.

I believe that 100% of posters who throw out nonsensical numbers, percentages and accusations such as yourself should be on some kind of medication, illegal or otherwise.

Cannon Shell

04-05-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 922163)

It's horseracing, no one is in charge and why bother with trivial issues like a major track closing with no clear replacement available when we can argue about lasix and where the breeders cup will be held in 2015.

pointman

04-05-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 922238)

I believe that 100% of posters who throw out nonsensical numbers, percentages and accusations such as yourself should be on some kind of medication, illegal or otherwise.

:tro:

Linny

04-05-2013 08:19 PM

If you believe that 75% of the game is "illegal" then why would you risk betting on it? Do you also seek crooked poker games?

Danzig

04-05-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 922238)

I believe that 100% of posters who throw out nonsensical numbers, percentages and accusations such as yourself should be on some kind of medication, illegal or otherwise.

95% of statistics are made up

Danzig

04-05-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 922241)

:tro::$:

yeah, well, ya gotta have your priorities...

Vegaskid

04-06-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 922238)

I believe that 100% of posters who throw out nonsensical numbers, percentages and accusations such as yourself should be on some kind of medication, illegal or otherwise.

Ok, sounds fair. But its just what i believe.

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 922337)

If you believe that 75% of the game is "illegal" then why would you risk betting on it? Do you also seek crooked poker games?

I only get involved when I'm told what the other players are holding. :$::$:

I love blue collar handicappers trying to make sense of this racket! :zz:

OldDog

04-22-2013 08:39 AM

John Shirreffs' move east is sad sign for Southern California racing

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...4862031.column

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