Here are the final 8.


Secretariat: Unquestionably a legit top 8 all-time caliber horse.

Cigar: Arguably the best dirt horse of the 90's -- in the mix with horses like Skip Away and Holy Bull. Not even close to top 8 all-time.

Zenyatta: Basically, a joke.

Affirmed: He is in the mix of being rated as a top 8 all-time horse. He was an all-time great 2yo, 3yo, and 4yo who went off-form near the end of the summer of his 3yo season and struggled for several races. Dr. Allday and Slewis both claimed to me on the Internet that he was treated with Sublimaze and subsquently became a killer 4yo.

Ruffian: Another filly who achieved equine Saint-hood. She's one of the best 2yo filly sprinters of all-time, and her Comely win was awesome at 7fs. She has absolutely no business on this list. Her route races simply were very good for a 3yo filly, but nothing special overall.

Bold Ruler: Was about as good a sprinter/miler as any horse in history. Great performer -- but absolutely not a top 8 all-time horse. He's here because of who he sired.

Man O' War: Another one who was given Sainthood. His campaign was a great target for the sharpest racing minds of his day. Anyone who thinks he's a top 8 all-time horse hasn't spent any time studying.

Seattle Slew: Great horse? Yes. Top 8 all-time? Hell no.


Since it was supposed to be about popularity and fashion ... I can't disagree with anything.

However, who would I rate the best human runner of all-time?

Obviously her ...

Who is that?

Don't know her name or her face... she looks amazing though.

I wouldn't let anybody out bid me on hip # 544...

Ya, if you have ever been to a Keeneland sale you would hear something along the lines of "look at the back end of 544, built like a tank"

followed by something I am sure Drugs has said "can I afford her"

followed by "probably not".

Ivet Lalova

Final Four: Secretariat v. Zenyatta and Man O'War v. Ruffian.

Her ass is infinitely better than her face.:wf

Put a bag over it if you need to.

She supposedly is 'the worlds fastest white woman'

They can clean her up and make her look presentable from the front:

:eek: Secretariat stomps Zenyatta. Not even close. :tro:

Tomorrow, Man O'War v. Ruffian.

The opposite of Zenyatta -- two ultra precocious front-end speed marvels.

They have one Hall of Fame caliber route performance between them -- Man O' War's Belmont win where he crushed a 6-for-41 lifetime nobody in a match race but at least ran very fast that time.

I demand a recount. Lifetime must have been running an all-day marathon of shoot-your-husband movies while voting was taking place.

Now that was funny!