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Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876010)
LOL. No, facts are provable, rational, measurable truth, that has nothing to do with one's political views.

As I said, you are free to dislike this president, but your repeated, ridiculous denial of things that have actually happened is ... scary.

http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2...lem-job-losses

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876010)
LOL. No, facts are provable, rational, measurable truth, that has nothing to do with one's political views.

As I said, you are free to dislike this president, but your repeated, ridiculous denial of things that have actually happened is ... scary.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoo...us-gdp-report/

The growth! Look at the growth...

Riot 07-19-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876015)

Like you have famously said, "I can't be bothered to go off reading your stuff." If you want to say something, post it here and prove it.

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876010)
LOL. No, facts are provable, rational, measurable truth, that has nothing to do with one's political views.

As I said, you are free to dislike this president, but your repeated, ridiculous denial of things that have actually happened is ... scary.

This IS certainly good news!!

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876017)
Like you have famously said, "I can't be bothered to go off reading your stuff." If you want to say something, post it here and prove it.

Please show me that quote. Proof?

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876017)
Like you have famously said, "I can't be bothered to go off reading your stuff." If you want to say something, post it here and prove it.

During the first three years of Obama’s term, his economic performance can be summarized as follows: RBNRFI: -6.6%; RGDP: 1.2%; total employment: -1.8%.

Riot 07-19-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876026)
During the first three years of Obama’s term, his economic performance can be summarized as follows: RBNRFI: -6.6%; RGDP: 1.2%; total employment: -1.8%.

Yes. Those are figures. So? What is your point in posting it?

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876030)
Yes. Those are figures. So? What is your point in posting it?

Wow.
You do not understand numbers in anyway huh? Perhaps I could make a graph and then turn it sideways so it looks right, like those monkeys in that TV ad.

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:29 PM

Despite what you want to think, "creating" hundreds of thousands of jobs when more than those being created are required to break even is a net loss. You can understand that right?
Wagering $25 and receiving $20 after the race is not a win, you know that right? You didn't win $20, you lost $5.

Riot 07-19-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876032)
Wow.
You do not understand numbers in anyway huh? Perhaps I could make a graph and then turn it sideways so it looks right, like those monkeys in that TV ad.

I'll try again: You posted numbers. Why did you post the numbers? What was the point you were trying to make, that the numbers are supposed to support?

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 876035)
I'll try again: You posted numbers. Why did you post the numbers? What was the point you were trying to make, that the numbers are supposed to support?

They represent the actual view of your very rosey GDP and job creation.

Pointless.

Riot 07-19-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876034)
Despite what you want to think, "creating" hundreds of thousands of jobs when more than those being created are required to break even is a net loss. You can understand that right?

Yes. But those that say Obama didn't create "any" jobs are factually wrong. He created, in fact, hundreds of thousands of jobs. Obama's policies did, in fact, create jobs, and are still creating jobs.

Considering 800,000 jobs were lost in one month before Obama took office, making most of those up is a start in the right direction. Do we need more? Of course. Bush wrecked our economy. It's not going to go away when the political party that wrecked the economy have fought against everything needed to help it recover.

If you think over a million jobs can be made up in three years, when the recession wasn't even turned around until Obama got a hold of it, you're crazy.

dellinger63 07-19-2012 04:37 PM

The Road Builders and Public School Teachers!

In Obama’s eyes the American heroes. The seeds needed for all success reaped in this country. Got to ask why the two Obama girls go to a private school? Are their teachers heroes or just taking advantage of the system like the rest of the taxpayers especially those making over 250K?

Does the President realize the freeloaders, his aunt and uncle included, also use the roads and schools whether it be in their hoopties or on the bus? Is he aware many children of ‘loaders' waste teachers time attending classes they have no desire or intention to complete the work needed in order to pass?

When Obama’s uncle got his DUI with a fake license and SS# in hand, could the crime have been avoided had there been no road? Would his auntie leave her rocking chair and seek a job if there was no road to look out at all day?

The President would serve us better if he’d go back to contemplating whether the chicken or the egg crossed the street first. Only now maybe he can ask the man who built the street! God Save the USA!

Antitrust32 07-19-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 875959)
As I said in my reply. This thread is about Faux News and their continued lying. Not about Obama. If you just want to go off on a, "I hate Obama and his appearance in Roanoke" rant, do it elsewhere?

gfy.

you act more pretentious than Ann Romney.


GPKev can rant wherever the hell he pleases.

Riot 07-19-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876037)
They represent the actual view of your very rosey GDP and job creation.

Pointless.

Ah. Yes. I see you only think in black and white. I suggest you read your article again.

My statement was that GDP has risen under Obama, and your numbers, again, continue to support that as being true. Thanks :tro:

Would we like GDP to be stronger? Yes, of course. Has GDP risen under Obama? Yes.

Antitrust32 07-19-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 875987)
1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years
.


when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 876048)
when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.

Oh well ya, if you are looking at actual numbers...He (all by himself just ask him) created hundreds of thousands of jobs!! That they were seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter.

It is like the GDP, it went up, way slower than it has to to sustain life but up nonetheless, SUCCESS!!

bigrun 07-19-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876034)
Despite what you want to think, "creating" hundreds of thousands of jobs when more than those being created are required to break even is a net loss. You can understand that right?
Wagering $25 and receiving $20 after the race is not a win, you know that right? You didn't win $20, you lost $5.


I'd kill to get back 20 from a 25 bet...any time i cash a ticket, that's a winner..:D

Clip-Clop 07-19-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 876056)
I'd kill to get back 20 from a 25 bet...any time i cash a ticket, that's a winner..:D

I have felt that way many days.:)

Riot 07-19-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 876055)
Oh well ya, if you are looking at actual numbers...He (all by himself just ask him) created hundreds of thousands of jobs!! That they were seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter.

Provide those job breakdown numbers you have, that support your ridiculous fantasy statement.

Thanks! :tro:

Here's a hint: the largest loss of jobs has occurred in one sector you name, above.


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