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dagolfer33 06-07-2012 11:36 AM

Can we just shorten the protocol and can this " The Jeff Mullins Rule"?

Danzig 06-07-2012 12:13 PM

i read an opinion that ny need only have done as churchill does for the derby-assign security to the runners themselves. that way, trainers don't have two areas to worry about, they don't have personnel and horses in two different places, etc. made sense to me. especially considering that they had them move so far ahead of the race. i didn't think about all the logistics when it was originally presented.
i also read that some are saying IHA shouldn't be allowed to run because he was 3 mins late moving. gimme a break.

pointman 06-07-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 866717)
i read an opinion that ny need only have done as churchill does for the derby-assign security to the runners themselves. that way, trainers don't have two areas to worry about, they don't have personnel and horses in two different places, etc. made sense to me. especially considering that they had them move so far ahead of the race. i didn't think about all the logistics when it was originally presented.
i also read that some are saying IHA shouldn't be allowed to run because he was 3 mins late moving. gimme a break.

Why should logistics matter when the NYSRWB put these protocols in place not to protect the betting public, but rather to try to save face from their recent failure to detect the failure to roll back the 1% takeout and to further make NYRA look bad so they can kiss Cuomo's royal a$$?

Kasept 06-07-2012 01:46 PM

They weren't going to let Matz & O'Neill cook oats for their horses today until some inquiries were made to a higher authority and an OK was garnered...

Riot 06-07-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 866738)
They weren't going to let Matz & O'Neill cook oats for their horses today until some inquiries were made to a higher authority and an OK was garnered...

This has gone beyond foolish and ridiculous.

These people now "in charge" do realize that we actually hammer metal plates onto horses hooves with nails, right? And that's not some illegal "soring"?

dagolfer33 06-07-2012 02:34 PM

....I guess a little cinnamon and sugar for that oatmeal may be out of the question.

OldDog 06-07-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 866751)
....I guess a little cinnamon and sugar for that oatmeal may be out of the question.

A practice known as "CreamOfWheating"

pointman 06-07-2012 03:06 PM

The Post reporting that the trainers are starting to get a bit more vocal about this NYSRWB charade:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...I0nmM318OB2XAN

Coach Pants 06-07-2012 03:10 PM

The Belmont Stakes brought to you by NYRA Management and Poland.

Danzig 06-07-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 866757)
A practice known as "CreamOfWheating"

lmao


yeah, steve, i saw they said 'NO!' to the oat cooking. didn't realize that cooking the oats could be a problem-who knew?!

Danzig 06-07-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 866719)
Why should logistics matter when the NYSRWB put these protocols in place not to protect the betting public, but rather to try to save face from their recent failure to detect the failure to roll back the 1% takeout and to further make NYRA look bad so they can kiss Cuomo's royal a$$?

but hey, at least they put fresh paint on the walls. definitely the way to make good with the paying customers.

Sightseek 06-07-2012 09:41 PM

I thought Lukas had a great point as well --

“What happens if a horse gets stirred up in there for two or three days? A guy is betting his money believing a horse will run like he did in the past out of his own barn, so how is that protecting the public?”

dylbert 06-09-2012 08:25 AM

Just heard John Sabini being interviewed on Mark Cusano's Down The Stretch show on Capital OTB network. I considered myself fairly well-educated and usually refrain from hasty, mean-spirited comments. However, this man is an I-D-I-O-T.

Then, I looked up his bio. Of course, his background is that he is politician! Is Gov. Cuomo attempting to destroy horse racing so that State of New York can move all casino monies to general fund? Sabini appears to be an excellent first step if this is plan.

Gaelic Storm 06-09-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dylbert (Post 867551)
Just heard John Sabini being interviewed on Mark Cusano's Down The Stretch show on Capital OTB network. I considered myself fairly well-educated and usually refrain from hasty, mean-spirited comments. However, this man is an I-D-I-O-T.

Then, I looked up his bio. Of course, his background is that he is politician! Is Gov. Cuomo attempting to destroy horse racing so that State of New York can move all casino monies to general fund? Sabini appears to be an excellent first step if this is plan.

I saw that too. He sounds just like a politician. Nothing is his fault, if you disagree with him you are worng and tries to spin everything. That shot at Roman's was real classy.

Cannon Shell 06-09-2012 12:01 PM

Yes and Sabini is the likely prototype leader for the vaunted Federal oversight committee that so many in this business seemingly crave for.


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