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bigjag0716 05-18-2012 01:18 AM

Taking the race away wouldn't be right, too much tradition, although I will admit that Pimlico doesn't really strike attention on a national media scale, general people heard of churchill and belmont, but Pimlico? Doesn't sound too appealing, so I understand where the guy who made this thread is coming from, I don't think they will or should take it away, though.

slotdirt 05-18-2012 08:00 AM

As was so aptly pointed out, they can take the race away, but it won't be called the "Preakness."

tiggerv 05-18-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 861714)
Ridiculous. There are some bad neighborhoods, like any other big city, but the worse in the country? Not even close. There are plenty of great places around Baltimore that are nowhere near the harbor.

Baltimore is awful. I've spent a lot of time there for both work and pleasure. There are significant sections of the city that are as bad as it gets and I stand by that statement. If people want to argue that Detroit and Newark are worse, no problem. I was responding to the statement that Baltimore was the most underrated city in America which even the mayor of Baltimore would laugh at. I believe Baltimore was only the 4th most dangerous city in the US last year so they got that going for them.

slotdirt 05-18-2012 08:23 AM

Well, at least the current mayor of Baltimore hasn't had to go to jail yet. So that's something.

knickslions2 05-18-2012 08:25 AM

The "Block" is a very nice classy area to visit while in Baltimore.

slotdirt 05-18-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 861763)
The "Block" is a very nice classy area to visit while in Baltimore.

Absolutely! Very family-friendly environment.

3kings 05-18-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 861760)
Baltimore is awful. I've spent a lot of time there for both work and pleasure. There are significant sections of the city that are as bad as it gets and I stand by that statement. If people want to argue that Detroit and Newark are worse, no problem. I was responding to the statement that Baltimore was the most underrated city in America which even the mayor of Baltimore would laugh at. I believe Baltimore was only the 4th most dangerous city in the US last year so they got that going for them.

My question is how often do you need to go to the areas where the majority of the crimes are comitted? Most cities high crime statistics come from a few neighborhoods most people( including residents) have never even been to. Every city has these areas. Baltimore is a nice city with many great neighborhoods, the people who are comparing it to Gary, Detroit, Camden, Newark etc... are way off base.

slotdirt 05-18-2012 09:32 AM

I really have to disagree. I've known folks held up at gunpoint in relatively "safe" areas of the city. The Inner Harbor can be quaint, but really, it's not that safe a place. It's at least one of the top ten least safe cities in the country, there is absolutely no denying that.

Powderfinger 05-18-2012 09:36 AM

I thought this was a non issue ever since Frank Stronach's formal aggreement with Maryland in 2010 not to move it.

philcski 05-18-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by munster705 (Post 861624)
No I haven't....why? Because why would I ever go to Maryland? It is not a destination state. That is my point.

I'd rather go to Baltimore than Boston. It's a great city, and Pimlico isn't as bad as everyone that has never been there makes it out to be.

philcski 05-18-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 861715)
Detroit is half vacant. It is way worse than Baltimore.

Yes.

As are parts of Philadelphia, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, Los Angeles... etc.

I love Baltimore. There, I said it.

Clip-Clop 05-18-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 861686)
I nominate Camden nj

Hands down, easy winner.

Clip-Clop 05-18-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 861801)
I'd rather go to Baltimore than Boston. It's a great city, and Pimlico isn't as bad as everyone that has never been there makes it out to be.

I have been there, the track itself is a track, like most others. No real problems with the facility. The neighborhood is awful though. People use old wheel barrows as strollers.

cmorioles 05-18-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 861801)
I'd rather go to Baltimore than Boston. It's a great city, and Pimlico isn't as bad as everyone that has never been there makes it out to be.

Of course not, and certainly not during Preakness week.

RockHardTen1985 05-18-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 861805)
Yes.

As are parts of Philadelphia, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, Los Angeles... etc.

I love Baltimore. There, I said it.

Thats cause your a closet G.

slotdirt 05-18-2012 01:22 PM

The original poster has clearly never been to Hollywood Park or Churchill either then. Wander a few blocks off the premises on a non-Derby day at CD and see where that gets you.

philcski 05-18-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 861862)
Thats cause your a closet G.

LOL little g

somerfrost 05-18-2012 01:58 PM

The problem isn't Baltimore or Pimlico, it's Maryland racing which has become strictly second class due to the voters refusal to allow casinos at the tracks. I'm not a fan of casino gambling but it's obvious when you are surrounded by states which allow same and you don't...that's a problem. Various religious right groups have chosen Maryland to make their stand and thus far, they have succeeded.

South Beach Luv 05-18-2012 01:59 PM

I was told on here not to walk from the French Quarter to the Fairgrounds during the day. I think some people are a bit too paranoid.

At night is a different story of course.

phystech 05-18-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 861882)
The problem isn't Baltimore or Pimlico, it's Maryland racing which has become strictly second class due to the voters refusal to allow casinos at the tracks. I'm not a fan of casino gambling but it's obvious when you are surrounded by states which allow same and you don't...that's a problem. Various religious right groups have chosen Maryland to make their stand and thus far, they have succeeded.

The voters weren't the reason Laurel didn't get slots - that was purely Stronach's fault when he didn't put up the $$'s to pay for the licensing fee.

All he had to do was cough up the fee and slots were his at Laurel.


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