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Riot 03-20-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 847151)
I'm sorry I misread your retraction.

No you didn't. You responded to it multiple times the first time and many times since. You've repeatedly and deliberately lied multiple times, trying to mischaracterize my opinion about what happened to Laura Logan.

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I take your constant rants on free BC coverage and bashing the US while at the same time ignoring the real atrocities happening all over the world including here disgusting.
Some of us can think of more than one issue at a time, and don't conflate political birth control issues as an attack on women with other violence elsewhere. That doesn't mean I"ve "ignored real atrocities happening all over the world" at all. Quite the opposite. As I've pointed out repeatedly to you, too, yet you keep maintaining falsely that I hold opinions I do not.

That's absurd and ridiculous. But that's you.

I take your constant attack on "Muslims" and the undocumented treatments you repeatedly allege as disgusting, too. So it goes.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847127)
Ah. First you use one definition of "big", then you switch to another here. Then you segue to attacking illegal aliens, then the Euopean financial crisis.

Very well done. But has nothing to do with what I posted about :D

Only because you never answer a question. It is fkn pointless to even try to converse with you.

Which countries even compare to what we are?

timmgirvan 03-21-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847101)
Obama-Biden 2012, baby. Plus sweep of the Senate and House by Independents and Dems. Pull this country kicking and screaming, out of the hands of the anti-everything loons, and into the 21st century with the other big countries ;):tro:

it appears you belong back in the '60's!:eek:

Riot 03-21-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847244)
Only because you never answer a question.

It's kind of ridiculous to have to explain to someone what a first world country is.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847378)
It's kind of ridiculous to have to explain to someone what a first world country is.

So then we are discussing countries that have zero similarities to ours, other than roads, a currency and government, OK. Landmass, population, natural resources (utilized or ignored) are not even part of the conversation. That makes sense, we should be able to run our country as "well" as one that has 20% of the population and 1/100 of the issues.

Riot 03-21-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847382)
So then we are discussing countries that have zero similarities to ours, other than roads, a currency and government, OK.

I'm sorry you obviously have no idea what a "first world" country is. It's an actual definition, defining certain countries, for specific reasons.

No, it's not possessing merely roads, currency and a government.

I said: "Obama-Biden 2012, baby. Plus sweep of the Senate and House by Independents and Dems. Pull this country kicking and screaming, out of the hands of the anti-everything loons, and into the 21st century with the other big countries"

Where are we in health care among the other first world countries? Education? Cost of education? Cost of health care? Percentage of poor living substandard lives? Aid programs to the poor? Education and housing help? What percentage are employed? Their savings rate? Their retirement quality of life? How long they live? Number of murders? Crime?

Hint: we aren't first in any of it. Except murders.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847384)
I'm sorry you obviously have no idea what a "first world" country is. It's an actual definition, defining certain countries, for specific reasons.

No, it's not possessing merely roads, currency and a government.

I said: "Obama-Biden 2012, baby. Plus sweep of the Senate and House by Independents and Dems. Pull this country kicking and screaming, out of the hands of the anti-everything loons, and into the 21st century with the other big countries"

Where are we in health care among the other first world countries? Education? Cost of education? Cost of health care? Percentage of poor living substandard lives? Aid programs to the poor? Education and housing help? What percentage are employed? Their savings rate? Their retirement quality of life? How long they live? Number of murders? Crime?

Hint: we aren't first in any of it. Except murders.

Where are we in total numbers? What percentage of the other 1st world countries have our population to deal with? How many have saved the world twice in the last century?

"Aid programs to the poor?" We must not be talking dollars here. You are officially out of your mind. Find me one country that spends 1/3 of what is spent here.

Riot 03-21-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847423)
Where are we in total numbers? What percentage of the other 1st world countries have our population to deal with? How many have saved the world twice in the last century?

"Aid programs to the poor?" We must not be talking dollars here. You are officially out of your mind. Find me one country that spends 1/3 of what is spent here.

LOL - Why don't you bother to educate yourself if you're so freaked out about it?

Seriously? All your hysteria, just because I said this? And yet you even missed the point!

There is little more hysterically funny than someone who doesn't like something you say, and argues that you should prove your opinion is wrong and they are right! LOL ... OMG ...

:D:tro:

Hint: look up the definition of "first world country", and what factual parameters are used to measure that. Then post where we are, compared to the other first world country in those parameters, and get back to me.

But really, my comment was referring to the platform differences between the Republican and the Democratic parties. Sorry you missed that and went off an a screaming tangent.

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"Obama-Biden 2012, baby. Plus sweep of the Senate and House by Independents and Dems. Pull this country kicking and screaming, out of the hands of the anti-everything loons, and into the 21st century with the other big countries"

dellinger63 03-21-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847426)
LOL - Why don't you bother to educate yourself if you're so freaked out about it?:

You realize Ireland's unemployment rate is above 20 plus percent?

dellinger63 03-21-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 847428)
You realize Ireland's unemployment rate is above 20 plus percent?

Or are they a second world country?

Antitrust32 03-21-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 847429)
Or are they a second world country?

most of the EU is on the brink of economic collapse... even worse than the USA.

we should strive to be like those countries.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847101)
Obama-Biden 2012, baby. Plus sweep of the Senate and House by Independents and Dems. Pull this country kicking and screaming, out of the hands of the anti-everything loons, and into the 21st century with the other big countries ;):tro:

Which point was missed?
I asked which countries we should be compared to based on this statement. You chose not to answer. I suggested it was unfair to the USA to compare this country with then un-named countries you referred to. You said first world (an antique of a term if ever there was one). I asked about population and the issues facing each nation and how any comparison could be made fairly and you replied that we are not first in anything. I ask you to show me a country that spends more, to prove YOUR point,on its poor and I get your last post as a response.
My point is proven, you are impossible to debate with, as others have pointed out many times.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 847430)
most of the EU is on the brink of economic collapse... even worse than the USA.

we should strive to be like those countries.

We should be like Germany. They are the one shining star in the EU. Coming close to the goal of taking over Europe without a single shot this time...

Riot 03-21-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 847428)
You realize Ireland's unemployment rate is above 20 plus percent?

Do you realize the current Republican party is anti-women, anti-gay, anti-citizens of color, anti-immigrant, anti-education, anti-Medicare, anti-Social Security, anti-religious freedom for others, anti-environmental protection, anti-science, anti-labor, anti-worker, anti-help for poor or elderly, anti-current laws enabling freedom for others they don't like, and that they are intent upon repealing it all and taking us back to the 1800's?

Riot 03-21-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847433)
We should be like Germany. They are the one shining star in the EU. Coming close to the goal of taking over Europe without a single shot this time...

United States: 1830 or 2030. Pick one.

Antitrust32 03-21-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847431)
Which point was missed?
I asked which countries we should be compared to based on this statement. You chose not to answer. I suggested it was unfair to the USA to compare this country with then un-named countries you referred to. You said first world (an antique of a term if ever there was one). I asked about population and the issues facing each nation and how any comparison could be made fairly and you replied that we are not first in anything. I ask you to show me a country that spends more, to prove YOUR point,on its poor and I get your last post as a response.
My point is proven, you are impossible to debate with, as others have pointed out many times.

Riots form of debating

when Riot disagrees "do you have a link for that"

when it's Riot's own opinion post "do you have a link for that"

Riot 03-21-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 847430)
most of the EU is on the brink of economic collapse... even worse than the USA.

we should strive to be like those countries.

We sure should in quality of healthcare, quality of education, etc.

Riot 03-21-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 847436)
Riots form of debating

when Riot disagrees "do you have a link for that"

when it's Riot's own opinion post "do you have a link for that"

"Debating" usually involves going after a subject tenaciously, not another poster.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 847436)
Riots form of debating

when Riot disagrees "do you have a link for that"

when it's Riot's own opinion post "do you have a link for that"

So...I am not crazy then. That is a relief.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 847434)
Do you realize the current Republican party is anti-women, anti-gay, anti-citizens of color, anti-immigrant, anti-education, anti-Medicare, anti-Social Security, anti-religious freedom for others, anti-environmental protection, anti-science, anti-labor, anti-worker, anti-help for poor or elderly, anti-current laws enabling freedom for others they don't like, and that they are intent upon repealing it all and taking us back to the 1800's?

NO ANSWER!!!
Can's just say yes or no.


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