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Libya, Cuba, Greece, Italy, Germany, Russia, Iran, Guatemala, Hungary (though this is still open to debate), Brazil, Haiti, Ecuador, Afghanistan (twice), Cambodia, The Congo, etc.etc.etc. Know your history? |
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the answer is....... |
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Italy, Germany....Lol, hysterical...:zz: you left off Japan... all the others, how many HOURS did we spent in any of them...except Afgan, but like i said 1000 times, after 911 bomb the schit out of the terrorist bases there, hunt down and kill bin laden and be out in ONE year tops...but bin laden was not a priority for dumya bush...had Iraq on his mind, remember... |
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the us basically entered the world stage (and became a partner in euro wars that have gone on for millenia) in world war one. i wonder sometimes how history would be now had we just stayed out and let germany win that one. there wouldn't have been a hitler, a ww 2, etc...everything that occured because of the 'peace' that ended ww1.
at any rate, hours doesn't begin to explain where we've invaded and what we've done over the last hundred-odd years. |
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No, we earned it...:tro: |
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C'mon man, we're talking full scale invasions of soviergn countries that were not any threat to us!!...Not overnite rescues in Granada or taking out bin laden in Pakistan, or Bay of Pigs fiasco and Cuba was a definite threat and RFK stared down the Russkies....Don't try to compare Bush's costly folly in Iraq to any other 'invasion'... |
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But not as occupiers....and they want us there...hell, we are all over the world... Isn't it odd that Germany and Japan started the war and we and allies defeated them and now those nations are among our best friends.... |
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my only point was the peace that was forced on germany after that war was what eventually lead to ww2. i've done more studying on ww1, germany was made out to be the bad guy-but the start of that war, and the build up...well, i don't think germany was the only one at fault for that war. i don't think us invading iraq was the greatest tragedy in history-there's a lot of history, and a lot of tragedy. but i do think that it was a tremendous mistake. ill advised, ill planned, poorly waged, and took too much away from afganistan. |
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as for japan, they've been trying to get us out of there, especially okinawa, for years. |
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I wasn't inferring that you in particular said that Iraq was the greatest tragedy in history but when you look at past "wars" it really is hardly more than a blip on the radar screen. |
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i say forced on germany because france in particular laid most of the blame for the start of the war on germany, when in fact that's really not true. the weeks leading up to ww1 were a colossal cluster**** of epic proportions. had austria just gone into serbia on her own, things probably wouldn't have escalated as they did. but there's a saying that an unjust peace is better than a just war, so they ultimately agreed to the terms. then there's the fact that an armistice was declared; it wasn't a win-more of a temporary ceasefire while they tried to work up a plan to end the war. germany almost went back to fighting again, rather than accept france's offer. wilson did his best to keep france from imposing such harsh terms. the harshness is what lead to everything that germany went thru after, and what lead to hitler's rise, and eventually to ww2 in europe. and i agree completely-when one looks at iraq in a historical vein, it's nothing. however, it's impact on this country in its short history is huge. on another note about ww1, if anyone is ever in kansas city, mo, the ww1 museum is located there. excellent displays, lots of info. 34000 miles of trenches on the western front alone. |
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