I get that, but I seriously doubt anyone is sitting around waiting for a topic about Vic to come up so they can post.

To be honest, if I knew posting about Vic would get Stonegossard posting more, I'd start a Vic thread every week.

The comment about him making this thread to get his supporters to come out is way over the top. Plus theres only 1 example and she did not exactly go tooth and nail to defend him. Its not like 50 people jumped on and said the article is bad and Vic is a god or anything like that.

Did you ever think that maybe you aren't the best judge of what is or isn't over the top?

But, I digress. I wasn't being harsh. I gave my opinion. To me, it's pretty obvious what the motivation was for posting an article that most people would have never seen, and doing it (the exact same way) on numerous boards. Others may disagree and the back and forth about it has been civil enough.

I basicley agree with you about him posting it, it is an odd thread for him to start. And its been totally civil, I just did not see that many people defend him. At the time of my original post I saw 1 person defend him. As for the first comment in your response, I know Im over the top a lot and maybe Im not the best judge.

So what was the point of your post to me if you agree with what I said?

I guess the point was I did not really see anyone, but 1 person defending Vic. Her defense was not much at all. Thats all. I should have kept it to myself.

Bite Me.

Its stuff like this that I dont want to see around here anymore. This is a happy place. Especially with Christmas coming up. I think it would be best if you would apologize. Thanks in advance.

I posted the article here and on other sites because his words made feel AWFUL. To get ripped like that cuts to the core justified or not. Racecalling is my professional life. I live and die with every call. I hoped sharing the column would cause people to say positive things which I needed at the time. Probably should have slept on it, cowboyed up and not reached out in a moment of weakness.

One person defended him and others agreed with what she said....hence multiple people. Whatever.

Have you had any previous experience with the author, or was this kind of out of the blue?

I just defended you!!

Too bad Clyde is banned from this forum. This thread screams for his participation.

There it is, I knew we could get you to participate and take a break from your heavy touring schedule to comment. Sharp post.

The tour ended a while back. I only posted as a shout out to my man Hoss. Hope you enjoyed PJ20......I didn't...thought is could have been much better.

On a serious note Vic has thrown a ton of fastballs down the middle over the months, but I refrained. Is like playing T-Ball....you can't miss. Others have done a fine job knocking them out of the park. The last time I chimed in he said some very dumb things to me on a public forumn which could have cost him his job.

I kinda feel bad for the guy....that's what he wants anyways with this thread....mission accomplished.

This one's for you, Mr. Osterman...................

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When I read the article I thought that there had to be some sort of past between the two. The article is so over the top, that it's ridiculous. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the call.

I guess it was a really slow week, news wise in the industry. Or just maybe the guy is just really friendly with Wrona and is just trying give his guy a leg up at Vic's expense. Who knows, who cares? I feel like the writer comes across terribly in this piece. It's so skewed, that he must have some sort of agenda against Vic. It's that obvious.

Osterman wants to talk about bad journalism, maybe he should take a look in the mirror. With all that's wrong in the sport he chooses to use his platform to rip apart a guy who does his job with personality, character and feeling.

I love ya Vic! I personally dont care for Wrona's nasally Australian accent, but he is good.

VJ keeps it fresh and exciting. If Osterman thinks Vic is horrible, I wonder what he must think of Battaglia?..bwhahaha